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15:12:22 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:12:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:12:56 <LJWatson> zakim, close item 7
15:12:56 <Zakim> agendum 7, DPUB and ARIA, closed
15:12:58 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:12:58 <Zakim> 2. moving from zakim to webex - https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices#IRC [from chaals]
15:13:00 <LJWatson> zakim, take up item 4
15:13:00 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Canvas returns to LC - do we need to discuss?" taken up [from chaals]
15:13:18 <LJWatson> CMN: Do we need to discuss?
15:13:53 <LJWatson> PLH: End date is today.
15:14:04 <LJWatson> s/End date/Publication date/
15:14:31 <LJWatson> CMN: Please submit comments before the end of the month.
15:15:10 <LJWatson> CMN: We should be looking for bugs and tracking testing.
15:15:26 <LJWatson> MS: I'm working on a project that implements the new features, so will be able to do that.
15:15:35 <LJWatson> zakim, close item 4
15:15:35 <Zakim> agendum 4, Canvas returns to LC - do we need to discuss?, closed
15:15:35 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:15:35 <Zakim> 2. moving from zakim to webex - https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices#IRC [from chaals]
15:15:42 <LJWatson> zakim, take up item 3
15:15:42 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Face to face meeting in Europe?" taken up [from chaals]
15:16:26 <LJWatson> CMN: Proposal to meet the week of 8th - 10th July. Concern is that if people can go to this meeting or TPAC, the prefence is TPAC.
15:17:17 <LJWatson> CMN: Proposed agenda is ARIA on 8th, useful TF activities/tasks on 9th and 10th - agenda will be determined by those people able to attend.
15:17:51 <LJWatson> CMN: Agenda will be in the style of the unconf format we used in Seattle. Venues still a choice between Zaragoza and London.
15:18:08 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:18:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:18:25 <LJWatson> CMN: There will be a wiki page for this later today.
15:19:19 <LJWatson> CMN: With a small meeting we will need to be careful we focus, and not make decisions that need input from the wider group.
15:19:21 <LJWatson> zakim, close item 3
15:19:21 <Zakim> agendum 3, Face to face meeting in Europe?, closed
15:19:23 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:19:23 <Zakim> 2. moving from zakim to webex - https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices#IRC [from chaals]
15:19:26 <LJWatson> zakim, take up item 2
15:19:26 <Zakim> agendum 2. "moving from zakim to webex - https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices#IRC" taken up [from chaals]
15:19:54 <LJWatson> CMN: I'm finding this change difficult because I don't have WebX working yet.
15:20:20 <LJWatson> CMN: Have requested that Liam setup a practice WebX meeting after next week's call.
15:20:30 <LJWatson> +1 to practice!
15:20:33 <plh> q+
15:20:56 <chaals> ack pl
15:21:09 <LJWatson> PLH: Moving to WebX is not going to be easy. Don't remember trying to do it before the end of June.
15:21:23 <LJWatson> s/don't remember/don't recommend/
15:21:24 <chaals> s/remember/recommend
15:21:57 <paulc> Is there a public description of the conversion from Zakim to Webex?  The only info I saw was on the chairs@w3.org email archive.
15:21:59 <LJWatson> PLH: Chairs will need to get acclimated to WebX first.
15:22:04 <Zakim> +Liam
15:22:07 <LJWatson> CMN: Which is a concern for me and Janina.
15:22:43 <LJWatson> CMN: There is a link to WebX best practices in the agenda email.
15:23:23 <LJWatson> CMN: Have been told that WebX chat is not screen reader accessible.
15:24:01 <LJWatson> CMN: We'll continue to use IRC - don't assume that sharing screens in WebX will be enough.
15:24:12 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:24:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:24:17 <LJWatson> zakim, agenda?
15:24:17 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
15:24:18 <Zakim> 2. moving from zakim to webex - https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices#IRC [from chaals]
15:24:18 <Zakim> 5. Wishlist items - https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist [from chaals]
15:24:18 <Zakim> 6. Action and Issue review - https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open [from chaals]
15:24:38 <chaals> -> https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices#IRC Best practices for webex at W3C
15:25:00 <LJWatson> CMN: We won't rush to make the change, but trying a practice call would be good.
15:25:36 <LJWatson> CMN: Assuming Janina and I get the thing running, ask us if a practice would be helpful - if you can't make the one scheduled for next week.
15:25:50 <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: Not seeing a link to the WebEx from the best practices page. Can someone put that in? I assume there is a passcode
15:25:57 <LJWatson> zakim, close item 2
15:25:57 <Zakim> agendum 2, moving from zakim to webex - https://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/WebExBestPractices#IRC, closed
15:25:59 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:25:59 <Zakim> 5. Wishlist items - https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist [from chaals]
15:26:05 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
15:26:05 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Wishlist items - https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist" taken up [from chaals]
15:26:25 <LJWatson> CMN: Meant to include the work statement as well as the wishlist.
15:27:18 <LJWatson> LW: Agreed to look at Web RTC, but question whether it's HTML?
15:27:27 <richardschwerdtfeger> Rich: Never mind I won’t call in
15:27:34 <LJWatson> PC: It's a different WG.
15:27:50 <LJWatson> JS: It's one for PF, Léonie you're welcome to help.
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15:27:58 <LJWatson> LW: Sure.
15:28:07 <LJWatson> CMN: Panels... where is it at?
15:28:14 <MarkS> scribe: MarkS
15:28:29 <MarkS> LW: panel work has stalled, Brian and I have not had a lot of time as of late
15:28:40 <MarkS> ...need more working examples
15:28:45 <MarkS> ...need use cases and requirements
15:28:57 <MarkS> ...input from TF on that would be useful
15:29:00 <Zakim> +Judy
15:29:12 <MarkS> ...accordions, carousels, etc
15:29:32 <Judy> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:29:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, Léonie, Chaals, paulc, Joanmarie_Diggs, Plh, Adrian_Roselli, MarkS, IanPouncey1, ShaneM, Liam, Judy
15:30:07 <LJWatson> CMN: Interested in date pickers...
15:30:39 <LJWatson> CMN: Does it belong here or with PF, since it relates to Web Apps?
15:30:47 <plh> q+
15:30:51 <LJWatson> PC: I wouldn't let that discourage you from doing the work.
15:31:11 <janina> q+ to say PF appears to be building an agenda with Web Apps
15:31:22 <LJWatson> PC: Having Web Components in Web Apps is strange anyway.
15:31:34 <chaals> ack pl
15:31:36 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:31:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:31:54 <LJWatson> PLH: +1 to not stopping yourselves from getting the work done.
15:31:55 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/charter-html/issues/14
15:32:22 <LJWatson> PLH: We're looking at the structure of work currently done in HTML and Web Apps.
15:32:39 <chaals> ack ja
15:32:39 <Zakim> janina, you wanted to say PF appears to be building an agenda with Web Apps
15:33:10 <LJWatson> JS: Works for me. The TF approach is successful, and date picker seems an appropriate thing for this TF.
15:33:40 <LJWatson> zakim, close item 5
15:33:40 <Zakim> agendum 5, Wishlist items - https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist, closed
15:33:42 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:33:42 <Zakim> 6. Action and Issue review - https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open [from chaals]
15:33:44 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
15:33:44 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Action and Issue review - https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open" taken up [from chaals]
15:34:06 <LJWatson> CMN: Shane... present web payments to TF today as the deadline. Still want to do that?
15:34:37 <LJWatson> SM: Yes, Web Payments isn't ready to present things yet, but after their F2F would work.
15:34:54 <LJWatson> CMN: Other action is mine for gathering use cases for transcript use cases.
15:35:11 <chaals> action-260 due 2015-06-30
15:35:12 <trackbot> Set action-260 Present web payments in tf meeting due date to 2015-06-30.
15:35:19 <chaals> action-317?
15:35:19 <trackbot> action-317 -- Charles McCathie Nevile to Look at the mse and spliced advertising cases in particular 05/01/2015 -- due 2015-05-14 -- OPEN
15:35:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/317
15:35:34 <chaals> [Don't think there is an issue here but will extend and get it checked again]
15:35:43 <chaals> action-317 due in two weeks
15:35:43 <trackbot> Set action-317 Look at the mse and spliced advertising cases in particular 05/01/2015 due date to 2015-05-14.
15:35:56 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:35:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:36:19 <LJWatson> CMN: AOB?
15:37:02 <LJWatson> LQ: ALt doc should be published next TUesday.
15:37:08 <ShaneM> agenda+ to ask about PF Charter update?
15:37:24 <LJWatson> zakim, next item
15:37:24 <Zakim> agendum 9. "to ask about PF Charter update?" taken up [from ShaneM]
15:38:10 <chaals> zakim, go catch plh and drag him back here…
15:38:10 <Zakim> I don't understand 'go catch plh and drag him back here…', chaals
15:40:01 <LJWatson> JB: We're expecting a new charter to be with W3M within the next week or so, and to be with the AC after that.
15:40:32 <LJWatson> JB: We expect the current charter to be extended to cover the review period.
15:41:35 <LJWatson> JB: Happy to answer questions to the extent I can...
15:42:02 <LJWatson> SM: Will PF have to stop publishing?
15:42:22 <LJWatson> JB: There will be an announcement next week, but no.
15:42:33 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:42:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:42:58 <LJWatson> cakim, list participants
15:43:06 <LJWatson> zakim, list participants
15:43:06 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Chaals, Léonie, paulc, Plh, Joanmarie_Diggs, Adrian_Roselli, +1.617.319.aaaa, MarkS, IanPouncey1, ShaneM, Liam, Judy
15:43:10 <MarkS> bye all!
15:43:14 <Zakim> -Judy
15:43:15 <chaals> zakim, dorp chaals
15:43:15 <Zakim> -Joanmarie_Diggs
15:43:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'dorp chaals', chaals
15:43:17 <Zakim> -Léonie
15:43:17 <Zakim> -Liam
15:43:17 <Zakim> -janina
15:43:18 <Zakim> -Adrian_Roselli
15:43:19 <Zakim> -Plh
15:43:19 <Zakim> -IanPouncey1
15:43:20 <Zakim> -ShaneM
15:43:20 <Zakim> -MarkS
15:43:20 <chaals> zakim, drop chaals
15:43:22 <Zakim> Chaals is being disconnected
15:43:22 <Zakim> -Chaals
15:43:26 <LJWatson> chair: Chaals
15:43:32 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:43:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:43:39 <chaals> [thanks to Léonie for scribing]
15:43:55 <chaals> [thanks to MarkS for supplementary scribing]
15:44:12 <Zakim> -paulc
15:44:13 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has ended
15:44:13 <Zakim> Attendees were janina, Chaals, Léonie, paulc, Plh, Joanmarie_Diggs, Adrian_Roselli, +1.617.319.aaaa, MarkS, IanPouncey1, ShaneM, Liam, Judy
15:44:20 <LJWatson> Meeting: HTML A11y TF meeting
15:44:26 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:44:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:45:00 <LJWatson> scribe: LJWatson
15:45:06 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:45:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:45:53 <LJWatson> rrsagent, please part
15:45:53 <RRSAgent> I see no action items