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14:56:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HCLS
14:56:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
14:56:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences Interest Group Teleconference
14:56:05 <trackbot> Date: 12 May 2015
14:56:22 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has now started
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15:03:50 <dbooth> agenda: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_ConCall_Agenda
15:04:04 <Zakim> +mscottm
15:05:32 <dbooth> page is 404: http://wiki.hl7.org/images/1/19/FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons_v2.pdf
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15:07:39 <dbooth> http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons.pdf
15:07:47 <dbooth> Topic: Blank nodes
15:15:24 <dbooth>  1. @prefix loinc: <http://loinc.org/owl#> .
15:15:24 <dbooth>  2. :resource a fhir:Observation;
15:15:24 <dbooth>  3.   fhir:Observation.code [
15:15:24 <dbooth>  4.     fhir:CodeableConcept.coding [
15:15:25 <dbooth>  5.       fhir:Coding.system <http://loinc.org>;
15:15:25 <dbooth>  6.       fhir:Coding.code "54411-4";
15:15:27 <dbooth>  7.       fhir:Coding.display "Rh immune globulin given Qualitative";
15:15:29 <dbooth>  8.       ex:concept loinc:54411-4;
15:15:31 <dbooth>  9.     ];
15:15:33 <dbooth> 10.     fhir:CodeableConcept.text "Rh immune globulin";
15:15:35 <dbooth> 11.   ].
15:24:19 <Zakim> +ericP
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15:30:52 <dbooth> eric: Michel Dumontier can help on this blank node question.
15:31:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:33:58 <Marc_Twagirumukiza> At RDF level normally it's ok to use BN but in Protege it's a problem because it support poorly turtle
15:35:03 <dbooth> ACTION: Tony and David to get blank node example ready and send to Michel Dumontier
15:35:03 <trackbot> Error finding 'Tony'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/users>.
15:37:13 <dbooth> Topic: Side-by-side comparison
15:37:14 <dbooth> http://wiki.hl7.org/images/2/25/FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons.pdf
15:38:51 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:39:46 <dbooth> zakim, who is making noise?
15:39:56 <Zakim> dbooth, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DBooth (43%), Tony (38%), EricP (27%)
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15:47:38 <dbooth> <AllergyIntolerance xmlns="http://hl7.org/fhir">
15:47:38 <dbooth>   <status value="confirmed"/>
15:47:38 <dbooth> </AllergyIntolerance>
15:54:11 <dbooth> eric: treating "confirmed" as a class instead of an instance may take more reasoning time, but it's an available mechanism
15:54:57 <dbooth> tony: it's like "red", there are things that are red, but red itself isn't an entity.
15:58:11 <dbooth> 1. allergy:AllergyIntolerance.status [ rdf:type fhir:Code ,
15:58:11 <dbooth> 2.       <http://hl7.org/fhir/allergyIntoleranceStatus/confirmed> ;
15:58:11 <dbooth> 3.   fhir:value "confirmed"
15:58:11 <dbooth> 4. ] ;
16:07:29 <dbooth> dbooth: Key question is can we infer line 2 from line 3 and the ontology?
16:07:47 <dbooth> tony: No, because of the blank node.
16:11:36 <dbooth> eric: need to separate what we know based on the ontologies from what we know only from the instance data.
16:13:09 <Zakim> -EricP
16:13:16 <Zakim> -mscottm
16:14:29 <dbooth> dbooth: Need to show example including: (a) FHIR XML instance data; (b) corresponding FHIR RDF instance date prior to inference; (c) corresponding FHIR RDF instance date after inference; and (d) the ontology that enables that inference.
16:15:05 <dbooth> ADJOURNED
16:25:40 <Zakim> -Tony
16:25:41 <Zakim> -DBooth
16:25:43 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
16:25:43 <Zakim> Attendees were DBooth, Tony, mscottm, Marc_Twagirumukiza, ericP, [IPcaller]
16:25:57 <dbooth> Chair: David Booth
16:26:05 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:27:41 <dbooth> Present: DBooth, Tony, mscottm, Marc_Twagirumukiza, ericP
16:27:51 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:24:11 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-hcls-actions.rdf :
17:24:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Tony and David to get blank node example ready and send to Michel Dumontier [1]
17:24:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-hcls-irc#T15-35-03