IRC log of hcls on 2015-05-12
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-hcls-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be HCLS
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- ok, trackbot; I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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- Meeting: Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences Interest Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 May 2015
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- SW_HCLS()11:00AM has now started
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- +DBooth
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- +Tony
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- agenda: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_ConCall_Agenda
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- +mscottm
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- page is 404: http://wiki.hl7.org/images/1/19/FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons_v2.pdf
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- +Marc_Twagirumukiza
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- http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons.pdf
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- Topic: Blank nodes
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- 1. @prefix loinc: <http://loinc.org/owl#> .
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- 2. :resource a fhir:Observation;
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- 3. fhir:Observation.code [
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- 4. fhir:CodeableConcept.coding [
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- 5. fhir:Coding.system <http://loinc.org>;
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- 6. fhir:Coding.code "54411-4";
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- 7. fhir:Coding.display "Rh immune globulin given Qualitative";
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- 8. ex:concept loinc:54411-4;
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- 9. ];
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- 10. fhir:CodeableConcept.text "Rh immune globulin";
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- 11. ].
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- +ericP
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- +EricP
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- -ericP
- 15:30:28 [Rafael_Richards]
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- eric: Michel Dumontier can help on this blank node question.
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- +[IPcaller]
- 15:33:58 [Marc_Twagirumukiza]
- At RDF level normally it's ok to use BN but in Protege it's a problem because it support poorly turtle
- 15:35:03 [dbooth]
- ACTION: Tony and David to get blank node example ready and send to Michel Dumontier
- 15:35:03 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'Tony'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/users>.
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- Topic: Side-by-side comparison
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- http://wiki.hl7.org/images/2/25/FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons.pdf
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- -[IPcaller]
- 15:39:46 [dbooth]
- zakim, who is making noise?
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- dbooth, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DBooth (43%), Tony (38%), EricP (27%)
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- -Marc_Twagirumukiza
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- +Marc_Twagirumukiza
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- -Marc_Twagirumukiza
- 15:47:38 [dbooth]
- <AllergyIntolerance xmlns="http://hl7.org/fhir">
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- <status value="confirmed"/>
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- </AllergyIntolerance>
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- eric: treating "confirmed" as a class instead of an instance may take more reasoning time, but it's an available mechanism
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- tony: it's like "red", there are things that are red, but red itself isn't an entity.
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- 1. allergy:AllergyIntolerance.status [ rdf:type fhir:Code ,
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- 2. <http://hl7.org/fhir/allergyIntoleranceStatus/confirmed> ;
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- 3. fhir:value "confirmed"
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- 4. ] ;
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- dbooth: Key question is can we infer line 2 from line 3 and the ontology?
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- tony: No, because of the blank node.
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- eric: need to separate what we know based on the ontologies from what we know only from the instance data.
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- -EricP
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- -mscottm
- 16:14:29 [dbooth]
- dbooth: Need to show example including: (a) FHIR XML instance data; (b) corresponding FHIR RDF instance date prior to inference; (c) corresponding FHIR RDF instance date after inference; and (d) the ontology that enables that inference.
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- ADJOURNED
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- -Tony
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- -DBooth
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- SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were DBooth, Tony, mscottm, Marc_Twagirumukiza, ericP, [IPcaller]
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- Chair: David Booth
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-hcls-minutes.html dbooth
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- Present: DBooth, Tony, mscottm, Marc_Twagirumukiza, ericP
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-hcls-minutes.html dbooth
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- trackbot, bye
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-hcls-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Tony and David to get blank node example ready and send to Michel Dumontier [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/05/12-hcls-irc#T15-35-03