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13:16:45 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:16:45 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
13:16:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:16:46 <trackbot> Date: 06 May 2015
13:26:53 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
13:26:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:27:04 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcaller is me
13:27:04 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
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13:27:27 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is me
13:27:27 <Zakim> +shadi; got it
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13:28:38 <Zakim> +Markku
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13:31:07 <Vivienne> zakim, who is on phone
13:31:07 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on phone', Vivienne
13:31:22 <Zakim> +[FIT]
13:31:24 <Vivienne> zakim, who is on the call
13:31:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the call', Vivienne
13:31:52 <Yehya> zakim, [FIT] is me
13:31:52 <Zakim> +Yehya; got it
13:32:16 <mhakkinen> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:32:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vivienne, shadi, Markku, Yehya
13:32:25 <Zakim> +Jason
13:32:38 <Zakim> +??P5
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13:32:49 <annika> zakim, ??P5 is me
13:32:49 <Zakim> +annika; got it
13:33:12 <annika> zakim, mute me
13:33:12 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
13:33:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:33:43 <sloandr> zakim, IPcaller is me
13:33:43 <Zakim> +sloandr; got it
13:34:30 <shadi> scribe: David
13:34:43 <shadi> scribenick: sloandr
13:35:11 <Vivienne> agenda: review of the draft charter submission
13:35:20 <Vivienne> agenda: how to engage the WAI IG in our work
13:35:29 <Vivienne> agenda: accreditation catalogue entry
13:35:32 <sloandr> zakim, mute me
13:35:32 <Zakim> sloandr should now be muted
13:36:01 <mhakkinen> +q
13:36:34 <sloandr> shadi: no updates on charter renewal to report. There will be a discussion on WAI charters tomorrow, which includes considering options for reorganising WAI working groups.
13:36:44 <Vivienne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/charter4
13:38:10 <mhakkinen> ack me
13:38:20 <sloandr> mhakkinen: Is there a set time and communication channel for remote contribution to discussion on this charter tomorrow? shadi: for participation from AC members, yes there is.
13:39:16 <sloandr> vivienne: updated charter available online has incorporated feedback from Judy and others. RDWG members encouraged to have a look at the latest draft.
13:40:00 <sloandr> vivienne: focus has moved to encouraging conducting research that will have direct positive impact on W3C activities.
13:40:59 <Vivienne> q+
13:41:01 <sloandr> mhakkinen: important to underline that renewed charter proposes an 18 month charter
13:42:15 <sloandr> vivienne: charter has updated language on delivery of symposium reports, with focus on brevity, in order to increase chances of reports being published in a timely fashion
13:44:20 <sloandr> mhakkinen: charter draft is publicly available, and is not expected to change significantly before being put to AC for feedback
13:45:04 <sloandr> shadi: not sure how much discussion will be possible tomorrow during TPAC meeting, but approval process expected by end of May, as this is when current charter expires.
13:46:03 <sloandr> shadi: if approval for continuation is not secured by end of May, group may go into limbo status, but keen to avoid this outcome
13:46:59 <sloandr> agenda item: how to engage WAI Interest Group in our work
13:47:49 <sloandr> vivienne: looking for ideas on how RDWG can engage the WAI Interest Group better than we have been, beyond timely publication of Research Notes
13:48:26 <sloandr> vivienne: how do we get input on e.g. definition and prioritisiation of research topics?
13:48:43 <sloandr> q+
13:49:56 <sloandr> mhakkinen: WAI-IG has 800+ subscribers to the mailing list. Topics range from 'newbie' questions on accessibility to much more in-depth discussion, with a lot of expertise there, which could be a valuable sources of informed opinion.
13:50:14 <sloandr> zakim, ack me
13:50:14 <Zakim> unmuting sloandr
13:50:15 <Zakim> I see Vivienne on the speaker queue
13:50:20 <Vivienne> q-
13:51:13 <Vivienne> sloan: perhaps a survey that asks people for their priorities, their top research topics required and get a sense from the wider community of where people need to learn more.  This will reflect their current position and what work they are doing
13:51:41 <Vivienne> sloan: didn't renew subscription to IG list because of the copious mail that comes through on the different topics
13:52:34 <Vivienne> sloan: WebAIM list also has high traffic and we could look at the relevance and amount of interest
13:53:28 <Yehya> +1
13:53:31 <annika> +1
13:53:31 <shadi> +1
13:53:32 <Vivienne> 1
13:54:19 <sloandr> mhakkinen: how many people on this call are on WAI-IG list? Number of +1s above indicate most
13:54:19 <shadi> q+
13:54:30 <Vivienne> q+
13:54:31 <sloandr> zakim, mute me
13:54:31 <Zakim> sloandr should now be muted
13:56:12 <sloandr> shadi: WAI-IG is very heterogeneous. Participants range from people new to accessibility to very senior, networked people in accessibility
13:57:14 <sloandr> shadi: question is how to leverage research interests and connections amongst WAI-IG participants?
13:57:51 <Vivienne> ack me
13:57:54 <sloandr> shadi: WAI-IG list has been focus of requests for feedback, examples (e.g. use cases) as part of previous projects
13:59:29 <sloandr> vivienne: emphasis in IG discussion is often on existing technologies and problems with them, when one of the main points of the new RDWG charter is a focus on emerging technologies and accessibility, so need more input on that topic
14:00:35 <Zakim> -Jason
14:00:36 <Zakim> -Markku
14:01:03 <Yehya> q+
14:01:18 <shadi> q-
14:02:48 <sloandr> yehya: we could post RDWG activity results, discussion items etc on the WAI-IG list to raise awareness
14:03:39 <sloandr> shadi: we could ask for feedback on the Research Catalog, especially missing topics. It could be moved to another W3C space where it's more prominent
14:03:43 <Vivienne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Research_Catalogue
14:04:20 <sloandr> shadi: RDWG needs to do the work to prepare the Catalog to be in a state that encourages good quality feedback on content
14:05:56 <sloandr> vivienne: needs a bit of work to organise the Catalog in preparation for inviting wider feedback
14:06:04 <annika> q+
14:06:29 <annika> ack me
14:07:36 <sloandr> annika: idea of discussing specific catalog topics is good, needs wider contribution. Could we invite IG participants to RDWG discussions?
14:09:03 <Yehya> q-
14:09:38 <sloandr> shadi: opening discussions needs to be aware of concerns over IP and copyright, and that discussions will not directly feed into e.g. a WG Note
14:10:17 <Zakim> -sloandr
14:10:52 <Vivienne> shadi: different from inviting someone to a one-off meeting where everything is publicly minuted
14:11:09 <sloandr> apologies, I lost my network connection there
14:11:18 <sloandr> calling back in…
14:11:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:11:56 <sloandr> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:11:56 <Zakim> +sloandr; got it
14:12:22 <sloandr> shadi: two ways to invite external participation to RDWG groups
14:12:51 <sloandr> shadi: 1. we can invite selected experts to participate in a meeting, under a very specific scope/framework
14:13:40 <sloandr> shadi: 2. we organise what we call an open discussion (or similar) where we can invite participation. This would require dedicated minuting and captioning, so we had a clear record of who said what and when
14:14:11 <sloandr> shadi: option 2 needs careful tracking of ideas that are expressed during discussions
14:14:21 <sloandr> zakim, mute me
14:14:21 <Zakim> sloandr should now be muted
14:14:47 <sloandr> shadi: option 2 is almost like a lightweight symposium
14:14:58 <sloandr> q+
14:15:23 <sloandr> ack me
14:15:48 <Yehya> q+
14:16:27 <Vivienne> sloan: perhaps a survey first to see how much interest, so the discussion would follow from the survey
14:19:13 <sloandr> this kind of activity inviting participation will help raise awareness of RDWG's existence and role within WAI activity, and encourage greater participation
14:19:47 <shadi> +1 to yehya -- must have results and outcomes
14:20:13 <Vivienne> +1
14:20:19 <Yehya> q-
14:20:25 <sloandr> yehya: the idea of a lightweight symposium is good, but in addition to minuting and captioning, there need to be conscious effort in producing a timely description of outcomes of the discussion
14:20:44 <sloandr> +1 to yehya's observation
14:21:08 <sloandr> annika: +1 to discussion idea
14:22:54 <Vivienne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Accreditation
14:22:56 <sloandr> Agenda item: Accreditation
14:23:41 <sloandr> vivienne: have reformatted the summary of the accreditation discussion. The idea is that this becomes a template for other catalog topics
14:24:33 <sloandr> vivienne: RDWG members encouraged to review the Accreditation discussion topic, especially Challenges and Opportunities. Is this an appropriate way of summarising current state and research directions?
14:25:31 <sloandr> vivienne: also added a section on related W3C activities, which is intended to help address the need to make connections between research topics and other W3C activity
14:26:13 <sloandr> vivienne: will send out a survey to collect feedback on this document
14:27:07 <Zakim> -Yehya
14:27:08 <Zakim> -sloandr
14:27:09 <Zakim> -annika
14:27:09 <Zakim> -shadi
14:27:13 <Zakim> -Vivienne
14:27:14 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:27:14 <Zakim> Attendees were Vivienne, shadi, Markku, Yehya, Jason, annika, sloandr
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14:36:39 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:36:39 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:36:39 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:36:47 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:36:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/06-rd-minutes.html trackbot
14:36:48 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:36:48 <RRSAgent> I see no action items