IRC log of html-a11y on 2015-04-23

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Zakim, this will be 2119

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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 60 minutes ago

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Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

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Date: 23 April 2015

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WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has now started

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agenda?

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+??P0

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zakim, ??P0 is me

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+janina; got it

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Chair: Janina

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agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

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agenda+ Additional agenda?

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agenda+ CfC Updates -- Janina, Chaals, Paul

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agenda+ Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam

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agenda+ Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina, Paul

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agenda+ Transcript Support Update -- John, Chaals, Cynthia

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agenda+ Other F2F Developments

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agenda+ TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track

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agenda+ Other Business

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agenda+ Identify Chair and Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

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agenda+ be done

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agenda?

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zakim, reorder 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 10 11 12 13 14

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I don't understand you, janina

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+Judy

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+Joanmarie_Diggs

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agenda order is 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 10 11 12 13 14

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agenda?

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+JF

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zakim, who's here

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JF, you need to end that query with '?'

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zakim, who's here?

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On the phone I see janina, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, JF

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On IRC I see IanPouncey, JF, Judy, RRSAgent, newtron, ShaneM, IanPouncey1, janina_, janina, liam, sivoais, Zakim, trackbot, cabanier, joanie

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scribe: JF

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zakim, take up item 4

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agendum 4. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]

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+ShaneM

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zakim, close item 4

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agendum 4, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed

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I see 13 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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5. Additional agenda? [from janina]

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, take up item 9

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agendum 9. "Transcript Support Update -- John, Chaals, Cynthia" taken up [from janina]

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+Liam

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Zakim, IPcaller is me

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+IanPouncey2; got it

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JS: a few issues around transcript

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looking for minutes

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-ShaneM

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+ShaneM

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zakim, what is the code?

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the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc

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+[Microsoft]

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zakim, [Microsoft] is me

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+paulc; got it

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JF: Clarification around minutes: the TF group on Wednesday didn't do a good job minuting the breakout (need to look for URL), however the meeting with the Media TF were minuted

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JS: what are next steps with Transcript?

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+Cynthia_Shelly

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q?

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Transcript Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Full_Transcript

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Minutes for F2F discussion on Transcript Accessibility: http://www.w3.org/2015/04/15-html-media-minutes.html#item11

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-IanPouncey2

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+[IPcaller]

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Zakim, IPcaller is me

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+IanPouncey; got it

15:19:25 [paulc]

I want the TF to review Ted's ISSUE-194 review "Possible methods for associating transcripts with media elements": http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/Research

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JF: ONce the wiki pages are cleaned up, they will be shared more widely.

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PC: Need to go back and review Ted O'Connors comments from the past

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Q+

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q+

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JS: Agree to be mindful of past arguments, but not sure if it's the same viewpoints today as in the past

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PC: Just asking to remember the history

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so call it bagel

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+1 to Shane

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q?

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Transcript proposal: https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement

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That is the proposal that the A11Y TF ad hoc meeting discussed and for which more work is needed.

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ack jf

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+Rich_Schwerdtfeger

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ack ju

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JF: Large discussion around the Transcript issue - focused on the two links provided.

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zakim, sho's here?

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I don't understand your question, JF.

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zakim, next item

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agendum 5. "Additional agenda?" taken up [from janina]

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JS: anything not on the agenda?

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 5 closed

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I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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6. CfC Updates -- Janina, Chaals, Paul [from janina]

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zakim, next item

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agendum 6. "CfC Updates -- Janina, Chaals, Paul" taken up [from janina]

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JS: Note there is an open CfC on our work statement - looking for a formal consensus on the record. Please re-read and act if so inclined

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Apr/0063.html

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zakim, next item

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agendum 7. "Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam" taken up [from janina]

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JS: believe we are waiting on PF consensus, after which there will be approval from both sides and we should be able to close

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PC: CfC for the HTML Working group was delayed (gremlins in the system) - going out now

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JS: so that will make it roughly a week out

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zakim, next item

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agendum 8. "Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina, Paul" taken up [from janina]

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JS: Paul was looking for a new candidate editor?

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PC: Scribe was incorrect - action is to communicate with current editors to see if one of them could produce a candidate last call draft

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Paul's request for a revised LC draft of Canvas2D Level 1: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2015AprJun/0001.html

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that went out Apr. 14th

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No response so far.

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PC: so far, no response. will continue to pursue this

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JS: will likely want to review once that happens

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PC: no changes since December, so you should be able to review now

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JS: Hit Region support is in now?

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PC: email points to the 2 bugs solved in Dec. - one being the bug rick resolved to fix (missing text)

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PC: if any other changes required, speak up now. For those interested in the 2 new features, start review now

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RS: will look at it over the next week

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PC: just respond to the email message

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RS: just want to look at wording things

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PC: If required, file more bugs - make sure bugs have proposed changes (text changes)

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PC: will contiinue to work on the editors issues

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JS: still have a follow up wioth actual implementations - we know there are bugs, but we need to work on that

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RC: which version are we looking at> current LC, or an editors version?

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PC: current editors draft

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zakim, next item

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agendum 1. "Web RTC" taken up [from LJWatson]

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 1 closed

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I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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2. Web VTT [from LJWatson]

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zakim, next item

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agendum 2. "Web VTT" taken up [from LJWatson]

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q+

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Apr/0054.html

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q?

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ack ju

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JF: email went out last week, bugs have been filed

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JB: how does it compare agaisnt the MAUR?

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JS: that's the issue - cannot understand the spec to determine if they are being met

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JB: we need to get this addressed early

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JF: Janina's email linked above outline the issues we uncovered so far

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we may even need to file a bug against HTML 5.1

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around the <audio > element and caption files

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JS: will get a seperate topic email out to the list

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zakim, next item

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agendum 3. "SVG navigation strategy" taken up [from LJWatson]

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 3 closed

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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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10. Other F2F Developments [from janina]

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zakim, next item

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agendum 10. "Other F2F Developments" taken up [from janina]

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 10 closed

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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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11. TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track [from janina]

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zakim, next item

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JF: don't believe so, but folks have been traveling

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agendum 11. "TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track" taken up [from janina]

15:47:13 [ShaneM]

zakim, unmute me

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ShaneM was not muted, ShaneM

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q?

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trackbot, close action-313

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Closed action-313.

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zakim, next item

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agendum 12. "Other Business" taken up [from janina]

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JF: TPAC?

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JS: believe we can have sufficient agenda during TPAC in Japan. The question is, who will be there? Please try to get indications on who will attend, as that will likely inform the agenda to pursue

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JS: need to know this by end of month for planning purposes

15:51:00 [paulc]

What is the status of the Doodle poll: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Apr/0003.html

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JS: does anyone on the call know if they will be there

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CS: will be there

15:51:17 [ShaneM]

I *may* be in Japan

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PC: Last time discussed, there were other alternatives discussed

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Poll: http://doodle.com/umhcvicyabcta7m8

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PC: there was also some discussion about a summer F2F in Europe

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JS: there still seems to be some forward movement there, but we don't have a proposed date

15:52:43 [ShaneM]

zakim. mute me

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PC: does not appear to be a record around the possible summer F2F in Spain - need to get Charles in Charge

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JS: anything else?

15:57:01 [ShaneM]

zakim, unmute me

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ShaneM was not muted, ShaneM

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JS: adjourned

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-Cynthia_Shelly

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-Rich_Schwerdtfeger

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-Liam

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-Joanmarie_Diggs

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-JF

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-Judy

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-paulc

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-janina

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-ShaneM

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WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were janina, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, JF, ShaneM, Liam, IanPouncey2, paulc, Cynthia_Shelly, IanPouncey, Rich_Schwerdtfeger

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rrsagent, stop log

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I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop log', JF. Try /msg RRSAgent help

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rrsagent, create minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-html-a11y-minutes.html JF

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rrsagent, publish minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-html-a11y-minutes.html JF

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zakim, please part

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-html-a11y-minutes.html JF

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rrsagent, please part

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I see no action items