IRC log of dwbp on 2015-04-17

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Zakim, this will be DWBP
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ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 17 April 2015
12:51:22 [phila]
Chair: Hadley
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regrets: Makx, Antoine, Deirdre
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+ +1.609.947.aaaa
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+[IPcaller]
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+HadleyBeeman
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+ +1.509.554.aabb
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+??P19
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-??P19
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+[IPcaller.a]
13:01:54 [ericstephan]
zakim, 554 is me
13:01:54 [Zakim]
sorry, ericstephan, I do not recognize a party named '554'
13:01:58 [phila]
zakim, ipcaller.a is me
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+phila; got it
13:02:06 [phila]
zakim, who is here?
13:02:06 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.609.947.aaaa, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, +1.509.554.aabb, phila
13:02:08 [Zakim]
On IRC I see MTCarrasco, ericstephan, gatemezi, Eric_Kauz, giancarlo_guizzardi, annette_g, laufer, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, trackbot, rhiaro, hadleybeeman
13:02:10 [ericstephan]
zakim, +554 is me
13:02:10 [Zakim]
sorry, ericstephan, I do not recognize a party named '+554'
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+??P22
13:02:26 [MTCarrasco]
zakim, ??P22 is me
13:02:26 [Zakim]
+MTCarrasco; got it
13:02:26 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
zakim, [ is me
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+giancarlo_guizzardi; got it
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+ +1.510.384.aacc
13:02:51 [ericstephan]
zakim, is aabb is me
13:02:51 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'is aabb is me', ericstephan
13:03:02 [ericstephan]
zakim, aabb is me
13:03:02 [Zakim]
+ericstephan; got it
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+[IPcaller]
13:03:15 [ericstephan]
whew got it finally
13:03:16 [laufer]
Zakim, IPcaller is me
13:03:16 [Zakim]
+laufer; got it
13:03:17 [annette_g]
Zakim, aacc is me
13:03:18 [Zakim]
+annette_g; got it
13:03:24 [phila]
-> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/13-dwbp-minutes.html F2F Day 1
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-> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/14-dwbp-minutes.html F2F Day 2
13:03:30 [laufer]
zakim, mute me
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laufer should now be muted
13:03:34 [phila]
zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see +1.609.947.aaaa, giancarlo_guizzardi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, phila, MTCarrasco, annette_g, laufer (muted)
13:03:37 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Ig_Bittencourt, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, gatemezi, Eric_Kauz, giancarlo_guizzardi, annette_g, laufer, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, trackbot, rhiaro, hadleybeeman
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13:03:54 [ericstephan]
Hello brother blue laufer
13:04:03 [Eric_Kauz]
zakim, aaaa is me
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+Eric_Kauz; got it
13:04:37 [laufer]
hi, bluebro
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bluebro I like it better sounds cooler laufer
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+??P1
13:05:55 [jerdeb]
Zakim, P1 is me
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sorry, jerdeb, I do not recognize a party named 'P1'
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Zakim, ??P1 is me
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+jerdeb; got it
13:06:40 [hadleybeeman]
scribe: phila
13:07:00 [hadleybeeman]
http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-04-10
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PROPOSED: Accepts previous call's minutes
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s/Accepts/Accept
13:07:23 [ericstephan]
+1
13:07:24 [annette_g]
+1
13:07:27 [AdrianoC-UFMG]
+1
13:07:27 [laufer]
0 (was not in the call)
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+[IPcaller]
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(I wasn't there)
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0 (not in the call)
13:07:46 [Ig_Bittencourt]
Zakim +[IPcaller] is me
13:07:52 [ericstephan]
we had a small quorum right before the f2f
13:07:53 [Ig_Bittencourt]
Zakim: mute me
13:07:53 [phila]
RESOLVED: Accept previous call's minutes
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+!
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Topic: F2F minutes
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+1
13:08:18 [gatemezi]
s/!/1
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Day 1 minutes are at http://www.w3.org/2015/04/13-dwbp-minutes.html
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It was a monumental effort by all
13:08:37 [phila]
day2 at http://www.w3.org/2015/04/14-dwbp-minutes.html
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+ +39.349.096.aadd
13:08:38 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
+1
13:08:48 [laufer]
+1
13:08:49 [phila]
PROPOSED: Accept F2F Meeting minutes
13:08:49 [Ig_Bittencourt]
+1
13:08:51 [annette_g]
* hey, congrats Hadley, on appointment to the TAG
13:08:55 [hadleybeeman]
+1
13:08:57 [laufer]
+1
13:08:58 [annette_g]
+1
13:09:02 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
+1
13:09:03 [ericstephan]
+1
13:09:06 [phila]
RESOLVED: Accept F2F Meeting minutes
13:09:13 [Ig_Bittencourt]
Yes. Congrats hadleybeeman. Amazing.
13:09:20 [phila]
Does anyone here not know what the TAG is?
13:09:51 [Ig_Bittencourt]
zakim, mute me
13:09:51 [Zakim]
sorry, Ig_Bittencourt, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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13:10:03 [MTCarrasco]
zakim, mute me
13:10:03 [Zakim]
MTCarrasco should now be muted
13:10:29 [ericstephan]
Yes that is tremendous, Hadley I am very excited to have someone there from a scientific org / government web perspective
13:10:52 [Zakim]
+Reinaldo
13:11:06 [Caroline]
Zakim, Reinaldo is Caroline
13:11:06 [Zakim]
+Caroline; got it
13:11:09 [phila]
RESOLVED: Accept F2F Meeting minutes
13:11:18 [annette_g]
* LOL
13:11:39 [ericstephan]
:-)
13:11:45 [phila]
TOPIC: Dataset Usage Vocabulary
13:11:47 [Caroline]
Congratulations, hadleybeeman!
13:11:54 [hadleybeeman]
Thanks, Caroline :)
13:12:09 [phila]
ericstephan: Only a few days after the f2f. Appreciate people being here today
13:12:31 [phila]
... we had a little bit of a situation where part of the WG in UK had to end work at 21:00 to catch trains etc
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+[GVoice]
13:12:58 [phila]
... I wanted to go through the stuff we talked about after that and share a map of where we are
13:13:05 [yaso]
zakim, gvoice is yaso
13:13:05 [Zakim]
+yaso; got it
13:13:26 [phila]
ericstephan: The model is very fluid
13:13:48 [phila]
ericstephan: There are placeholders for new bits of the model
13:13:59 [ericstephan]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17Wqrh4SKhFcHPykGPyXlljNNw8WJgMnpwzinvvGXn0o/edit?usp=sharing
13:14:02 [phila]
ericstephan: I wanted to share...
13:14:35 [ericstephan]
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HnmNmVIR_R6egbDagWYgzML-9mvdp_0Sp_JXqL4bJ_k/edit?usp=sharing
13:14:39 [yaso]
zakim, mute me
13:14:39 [Zakim]
yaso should now be muted
13:14:42 [phila]
ericstephan: That's the doc we have so far. Sumit is going to put that into GH
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... It's a mental map. There are things like PROV-O in here
13:15:24 [phila]
... there's a use called usage annotation
13:15:37 [phila]
... but there's some follow up work to do with the Annotation WG before the 18 May deadline
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... also one part where the rating, opinion and quality criteria - we've designed that as future DQV work
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... so we want to make sure we're in scope for the DUV
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q+
13:16:39 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
q+
13:16:40 [phila]
ack ,e
13:16:44 [phila]
ack me
13:17:41 [MTCarrasco]
Which EU project?
13:17:45 [ericstephan]
phila: yesterday between the f2f and today I met with the EU to the share-psi project and that we are making progress, one point picked up on was the data usage vocab
13:18:05 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
q-
13:18:27 [ericstephan]
phila: it occured to me that part of or some of the questions are "who has used or what did you do to my data"?
13:18:59 [MTCarrasco]
Share-PSI 2.0 - http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi
13:19:10 [MTCarrasco]
This one?
13:19:20 [ericstephan]
phila: intersection between data usage and data quality...looking at various activities and liked it for the portals to make it easier for people to use the data.
13:19:36 [phila]
q?
13:19:37 [yaso]
q?
13:19:53 [phila]
giancarlo_guizzardi: I had some questions about the model... but maybe later
13:20:39 [phila]
s/ what did you do to my data/ what did you have to do to my data before you were able to use is/
13:20:42 [yaso]
q+
13:20:54 [phila]
giancarlo_guizzardi: In my mind, an application can have different uses of the same dataset
13:21:04 [gatemezi_]
IMO, an aspect of data usage could be to send feedback on the "quality" of the data itself
13:21:07 [phila]
... an agent could play the role of a consumer or publisher in the usage of the DS
13:21:29 [phila]
... why did you decide to represent a usage as a subtype of usage cf. relationship with the DS
13:21:54 [phila]
ericstephan: The star of the show is the DS. That's the central thing. We're capturing people's reactions and impressions of hte DS
13:22:07 [phila]
... so it's in that spirit that we captured this general concept of data usage
13:22:25 [gatemezi_]
s/hte/the
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ericstephan: I want to iterate over what you said in e-mail
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ericstephan: It's like being able to cross reference things from an application - I see what you're saying giancarlo_guizzardi
13:25:00 [ericstephan]
phila: giancarlo_guizzardi could you phrase a proposal this is where we came from?
13:25:50 [yaso]
zakim, mute me
13:25:50 [Zakim]
yaso was already muted, yaso
13:26:06 [yaso]
zakim, unmute me
13:26:06 [Zakim]
yaso should no longer be muted
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q?
13:26:40 [phila]
ack yaso
13:26:42 [annette_g]
q+
13:27:10 [Zakim]
-Eric_Kauz
13:27:38 [phila]
yaso: How much can we take advantage of datasets ... Git has its own structure for naming actions, pakacges of code etc. It maps all the actions that anyone can take
13:27:49 [phila]
... it's very similar to what you can do with a dataset
13:28:03 [phila]
... can we takle advantage of that as a collaboration model?
13:28:15 [phila]
ericstephan: So are you suggesting GH as an example of examples in GH?
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yaso: When developers.... {break up}... it's what you're thinking now. How can people work with some code together. How can we see what is made of our piece of code - things like that.
13:29:14 [Zakim]
+ +1.617.646.aaee
13:29:23 [yaso]
https://sselab.de/lab2/public/wiki/sselab/images/thumb/4/4f/Git_workflow.png/800px-Git_workflow.png
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+??P28
13:29:40 [phila]
ericstephan: I love those ideas
13:29:44 [phila]
phila: +1 very interesting
13:29:50 [phila]
yaso: GitHub is amazing
13:29:55 [yaso]
it is not the best example of this, but can help with some inspiration
13:30:08 [yaso]
phila: agree!
13:30:12 [CarlosIglesias]
zakim, ??P28 is me
13:30:12 [Zakim]
+CarlosIglesias; got it
13:30:41 [SumitPurohit]
zakim, ??aaee is me
13:30:41 [Zakim]
sorry, SumitPurohit, I do not recognize a party named '??aaee'
13:30:51 [gatemezi_]
There is a tool https://github.com/mmlab/Git2PROV to expose Git actions into PROV-O
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q?
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13:31:00 [phila]
ack AdrianoC-UFMG
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ack annette_g
13:31:15 [SumitPurohit]
zakim, aaee is me
13:31:15 [Zakim]
+SumitPurohit; got it
13:31:15 [Ig_Bittencourt]
hadleybeeman, i think the other is me.
13:31:25 [hadleybeeman]
zakim, who is here?
13:31:25 [Zakim]
On the phone I see giancarlo_guizzardi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, phila, MTCarrasco (muted), annette_g, laufer (muted), jerdeb, [IPcaller], +39.349.096.aadd, Caroline, yaso,
13:31:29 [phila]
annette_g: Looking at the little diagram. I notice we have a single line from dataset -> consumed -> an application
13:31:29 [Zakim]
... SumitPurohit, CarlosIglesias
13:31:29 [Zakim]
On IRC I see giancarlo_guizzardi, SumitPurohit, CarlosIglesias, gatemezi_, Caroline, yaso, jerdeb, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, Eric_Kauz, annette_g,
13:31:29 [Zakim]
... laufer, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, trackbot, rhiaro, hadleybeeman
13:31:36 [phila]
annette_g: A reusage dataset would be one of them
13:31:47 [phila]
annette_g: WE have the annotations, annotating the original dataset
13:31:57 [phila]
... might be better to annotate the reused dataset or application
13:32:07 [phila]
zakim, who is here?
13:32:07 [Zakim]
On the phone I see giancarlo_guizzardi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, phila, MTCarrasco (muted), annette_g, laufer (muted), jerdeb, [IPcaller], +39.349.096.aadd, Caroline, yaso,
13:32:10 [Zakim]
... SumitPurohit, CarlosIglesias
13:32:10 [Zakim]
On IRC I see giancarlo_guizzardi, SumitPurohit, CarlosIglesias, gatemezi_, Caroline, yaso, jerdeb, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, Eric_Kauz, annette_g,
13:32:10 [Zakim]
... laufer, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, trackbot, rhiaro, hadleybeeman
13:32:28 [phila]
ericstephan: When you talk about the reuse dataset - what does that mean to you?
13:32:37 [Ig_Bittencourt]
hadleybeeman, maybe IPCaller, but I am not sure.
13:32:47 [phila]
annette_g: I take your DS and I make a subset of it and I put that on the Web, or a cleaned up version
13:32:53 [phila]
annette_g: A mash up, etc.
13:33:04 [phila]
ericstephan: This is one of the things - annotations, annotation history
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13:33:12 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
There are a number of interesting aspects of the Dataset usage Diagram that I believe are worth discussing through email. For instance, it seems to me at first thought that perhaps data usage could be better captured as a relational property between Application and Dataset. For instance, an application can have different types of usages of a given dataset.
13:33:18 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
Moreover, it seems to me that an Application/Agent could play different roles (provider/consumer) w.r.t. to a dataset in the context of a given usage.
13:33:30 [phila]
ericstephan: What botehrs me about this model is that from a PROV perspective, you can look at prov as an entire backplane, tracking every aspect
13:33:32 [phila]
q+
13:33:41 [phila]
ericstephan: And hte same for annotation
13:34:10 [phila]
ericstephan: I wanted to stay away from reinventing PROV-O and all that work.
13:34:23 [phila]
ericstephan: How can we talk about tracking provenance without doing that
13:34:54 [laufer]
q+
13:34:57 [phila]
annette_g: There's a lot in PROV-O that we can reus
13:35:00 [ericstephan]
ack phila
13:35:47 [ericstephan]
phila: yes important discussion and a dataset is a subset of another dataset and mashup is important.
13:36:08 [ericstephan]
phila: bottom line is that we want the model to be simple to use for data portals
13:36:14 [annette_g]
q+
13:36:40 [phila]
ericstephan: Yep, and that's why PROV-O - it's almost an illustrated example of how you can picture re-use
13:37:02 [phila]
... you can keeo your DUV vcery simple, but if you want to do more then these otehr vocabs are available
13:37:32 [phila]
ericstephan: The ORG model - nice job of showing one organisation linked to another
13:37:36 [phila]
q?
13:37:40 [laufer]
zakim, unmute me
13:37:40 [Zakim]
laufer should no longer be muted
13:37:40 [phila]
ack laufer
13:37:43 [ericstephan]
ack laufer
13:37:47 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
Another issue that comes to mind is regarding versioning of the dataset. Can an application play different roles in different usages w.r.t. different versions of a dataset?
13:37:54 [phila]
laufer: zakim, who is noisy?
13:37:58 [gatemezi_]
Clearly, it emerges that we have two types of reusing DS: applications (or mashups) and DS+ (new version of original DS)
13:38:13 [phila]
laufer: I can see that feedback seems to be a central thing
13:38:44 [phila]
... the idea we have a DS that is used by someone, and then we have the feedback. WE need feedback from the user as input to the next thing
13:39:02 [phila]
... what I can see is that from one DS we'll have a lot of data related to it. Opinions, analysis,
13:39:21 [phila]
... very good contribution - it's a way to reference a lot of data related to the first DS
13:39:22 [gatemezi_]
Re giancarlo_guizzardi question, could you give uus some roles that you have in mind?
13:39:48 [phila]
... this first diagra, I can see blogs and opinions, but I can envisage articles about it and so on
13:40:07 [laufer]
zakim, mute me
13:40:07 [Zakim]
laufer should now be muted
13:40:07 [phila]
ericstephan: I agree
13:40:11 [ericstephan]
http://rdfs.org/sioc/spec/
13:40:27 [gatemezi_]
I can group articles, blogs and opinions in the same bag
13:40:34 [phila]
ericstephan: I'm looking towards the end of the F2F, Laufer had shared this core spec (SiOC)
13:40:43 [gatemezi_]
.. or Class
13:40:59 [phila]
ericstephan: I was stuck in a middle seat on the plane home and could just read this on my phone
13:41:40 [phila]
phila: Notes that SiOC, like DCAT and more all came from the same place (DERI Galway)
13:41:48 [phila]
Oh and VoID
13:41:50 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
Let me rephrase the question. Can an agent play different roles w.r.t. (different versions of a) data set? By role here, I mean producer/consumer.
13:42:04 [phila]
q?
13:42:11 [phila]
ack annette_g
13:42:12 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
but also, perhaps a given application can make different uses of a dataset across different versions as well
13:42:20 [ericstephan]
ack annette_g
13:42:32 [phila]
annette_g: I keep thinking about how we're going to make this connection happen between a re-use and the original use
13:42:48 [hadleybeeman]
Q+
13:42:48 [phila]
annette_g: Is there any thought on how this might be used?
13:42:56 [phila]
... or just cme up with it and hope it's used?
13:43:12 [Caroline]
s/cme/come
13:43:16 [phila]
annette_g: I can imagine in HTML people can specify things but is it used?
13:43:24 [CarlosIglesias]
note that to be fair others have also made *huge* amount of work for SIOC to happen, namely CTIC for example
13:43:35 [phila]
ericstephan: I can see the vocab being wrapped into an API where the publisher can provide the means for collecting feedback
13:43:46 [phila]
... or as an exchange medium so diff sites can reflect diff feedback
13:43:55 [phila]
... so there can be a way to translate their feeback into the DUV
13:44:16 [gatemezi_]
Answering to giancarlo_guizzardi, I would say "YES", since you can play at different moment both roles, consumer and producer
13:44:22 [hadleybeeman]
q?
13:44:35 [phila]
... I think most of our specific use cases might be what a publisher might provie, but I;m also looking at the Social WEb WG. What happens between diff people interacting and interconnecting
13:44:51 [SumitPurohit]
+1 ericstephan for API
13:45:19 [phila]
annette_g: From my own interest, it would be great if people can feed back - and the Web works with links going forward, not backward.
13:45:36 [laufer]
the social connection that has the dataset as its centre is very interesting...
13:45:39 [phila]
annette_g: Publishers need tobe able to discover on their own what use has been made
13:45:40 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
Agreed. We should consider the best way to reflect that in the model
13:45:49 [phila]
hadleybeeman: Something that people haven't talked about is search
13:46:01 [phila]
... if we do this well, the use of datasets will be crawlable
13:46:09 [phila]
... and we can tkae that into account for PageRank
13:46:36 [phila]
... we'll have some sense of popularity and reliability of PageRank, but it's a nice interface for publishers to see what we're doing
13:46:41 [ericstephan]
+1 hadleybeeman
13:46:54 [gatemezi_]
annette_g: that's why you can specify "owl:sameAs" to make also backward working in the Web of data. Isn't it?
13:46:59 [phila]
hadleybeeman: On PageRank, other search engines are available
13:47:10 [phila]
q+ to talk about schema.org
13:47:17 [phila]
q- ha
13:47:45 [phila]
ericstephan: I see people using a lot more libraries - this ability to see what data is available but not what tools are available
13:48:03 [phila]
ericstephan: Almost every project on GH has an example of a dataset in its documentation
13:48:18 [phila]
ack me
13:48:18 [Zakim]
phila, you wanted to talk about schema.org
13:49:02 [MTCarrasco]
+1 scheme.org
13:49:10 [ericstephan]
http://rdesc.org
13:49:20 [Zakim]
-[IPcaller]
13:49:28 [phila]
ericstephan: The project that's driving Sumit and me is this resource discovery one
13:49:42 [phila]
... one of the things we've done is to provide some of the terms from schema.org
13:49:56 [phila]
... and we want to incorporate the DUV into that
13:50:18 [phila]
ericstephan: So this schema.org angle is interesting. We want the great search engines to pick up what scientists are doing
13:50:28 [phila]
q+ to talk about implementation
13:50:35 [phila]
ack me
13:50:35 [Zakim]
phila, you wanted to talk about implementation
13:50:38 [MTCarrasco]
https://schema.or
13:50:45 [MTCarrasco]
https://schema.org
13:51:02 [hadleybeeman]
@ericstephan: This is a fantastic discussion. I'm sorry I didn't jump into it earlier!
13:51:24 [MTCarrasco]
zakim, unmute me
13:51:24 [Zakim]
MTCarrasco should no longer be muted
13:51:29 [hadleybeeman]
q?
13:51:36 [MTCarrasco]
q+
13:51:39 [ericstephan]
q+
13:51:53 [SumitPurohit]
+1 phila
13:51:55 [MTCarrasco]
Anybody going to the Riga Summit 27-29 April 2015 - http://rigasummit2015.eu
13:51:58 [Caroline]
the rdesc is a very interesting project, ericstephan
13:51:58 [ericstephan]
+1
13:52:41 [phila]
ericstephan: I put into the e-mail this week, some of the multilingual aspects
13:53:02 [phila]
... the number of languages spoken in this WG is exciting. We need to show our DUV in a multilingual way
13:53:08 [ericstephan]
nos somos o dataset
13:53:16 [hadleybeeman]
+1 to ericstephan there. A multilingual vocabulary sounds much more global and useful.
13:53:27 [hadleybeeman]
:)
13:53:31 [phila]
Put it on a T-shirt for TPAC
13:53:33 [hadleybeeman]
q?
13:53:36 [laufer]
we are the datasets!!!
13:53:36 [hadleybeeman]
ack mt
13:53:40 [Caroline]
+1 to ericstephan :)
13:53:41 [SumitPurohit]
:-)
13:54:18 [phila]
ericstephan: One of the things that Share-PSI offers... a vast use case. I'm looking for a tour guide in terms of what kind of things can we pick and choose for the DUV
13:54:41 [phila]
... I'd love to have something... I'm thinking of sci data ... but there seems to be a lot to work on
13:56:00 [MTCarrasco]
European legislation on reuse of public sector information - http://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/european-legislation-reuse-public-sector-information
13:56:06 [ericstephan]
phila: there is a law about data sharing, portals etc. We are making a list of areas coming from the legislations there are areas that could be applicable
13:56:25 [hadleybeeman]
q?
13:56:31 [phila]
q- ericstephan
13:56:35 [gatemezi_]
DUV can challenge DCAT which has been already translated into 6 languages http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/vocabs/dcat.. Don't see brazilian/portuguese there ;)
13:56:42 [MTCarrasco]
It is a 2003 directive (EU "law")
13:56:52 [phila]
ericstephan: The assignments made at this point for actions - any questions?
13:56:52 [hadleybeeman]
q+
13:57:06 [phila]
ack hadleybeeman
13:57:14 [ericstephan]
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/174 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/175 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/176 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/177 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/178 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/179 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/180
13:57:27 [yaso]
zakim, mute me
13:57:27 [Zakim]
yaso should now be muted
13:57:31 [phila]
hadleybeeman: When do you need from the chairs - when do you need more meeting time?
13:58:16 [phila]
ericstephan: At thins point - we have a lot of input and volunteers. We need to fix a schedule and makde sure we're moving forward What we need on a weekly basis is a check in but at this pint we're good.
13:58:27 [phila]
ericstephan: Can we talk about DUV again in 2 weeks' time?
13:58:30 [phila]
hadleybeeman: Sounds good.
13:58:57 [phila]
ericstephan: I'll make sure I send a mail to make sure those with actions know it.
13:59:03 [phila]
hadleybeeman: Thank you Eric
13:59:20 [riccardoAlbertoni]
bye
13:59:22 [MTCarrasco]
bye
13:59:22 [phila]
... wishes everyone a good weekend
13:59:22 [CarlosIglesias]
bye, bye
13:59:25 [laufer]
bye all... nice weekend for all...
13:59:25 [Zakim]
-MTCarrasco
13:59:26 [Zakim]
-SumitPurohit
13:59:27 [jerdeb]
happy weekend! bye
13:59:27 [Caroline]
thank you! Bye
13:59:28 [Zakim]
-HadleyBeeman
13:59:29 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
nice weekend everyone
13:59:29 [Zakim]
-annette_g
13:59:31 [Zakim]
-Caroline
13:59:32 [Zakim]
-phila
13:59:32 [Zakim]
-jerdeb
13:59:32 [giancarlo_guizzardi]
buy
13:59:34 [yaso]
bye!
13:59:35 [Zakim]
-laufer
13:59:37 [gatemezi_]
Ciao!
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-ericstephan
13:59:42 [phila]
RRSAgent, make logs public
13:59:43 [annette_g]
nice job, Eric!
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-giancarlo_guizzardi
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-yaso
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-CarlosIglesias
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- +39.349.096.aadd
14:00:46 [riccardoAlbertoni]
zakim, aadd is me
14:00:46 [Zakim]
sorry, riccardoAlbertoni, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
14:02:49 [AdrianoC-UFMG]
Thanks, all, bye bye!
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disconnecting the lone participant, giancarlo_guizzardi, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM
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Attendees were +1.609.947.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, +1.509.554.aabb, phila, MTCarrasco, giancarlo_guizzardi, +1.510.384.aacc, ericstephan, laufer, annette_g, Eric_Kauz, jerdeb,
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... [IPcaller], +39.349.096.aadd, Caroline, yaso, +1.617.646.aaee, CarlosIglesias, SumitPurohit
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