IRC log of rd on 2015-02-04
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- 14:24:40 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/02/04-rd-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 7394
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
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- Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 04 February 2015
- 14:27:29 [mhakkinen]
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- WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
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- +Markku
- 14:28:27 [shadi]
- zakim, call shadi-617
- 14:28:27 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; the call is being made
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- +Shadi
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- 14:30:14 [mhakkinen]
- zakim, markku is mhakkinen
- 14:30:14 [Zakim]
- +mhakkinen; got it
- 14:30:48 [Yehya]
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- +[IPcaller]
- 14:31:17 [Vivienne]
- zakim, IPcaller is me
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- +Vivienne; got it
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- +[FIT]
- 14:31:47 [Yehya]
- zakim, [FIT] is me
- 14:31:47 [Zakim]
- +Yehya; got it
- 14:31:56 [Vivienne]
- regrets: Simon Harper, Silvia Mirri, David Sloan, Annika Nietzio, Klaus Miesenberger
- 14:37:10 [mhakkinen]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/RDWG-030215/results
- 14:37:47 [Vivienne]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Accreditation
- 14:38:16 [shadi]
- Topic: Section "Introduction"
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/RDWG-030215/results#xint
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- 14:39:52 [shadi]
- MH: looked up some definitions of accreditation
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- ...often tends to accredit a body or person to perform certification
- 14:40:48 [shadi]
- ...just some semantic issues with the term "accreditation"
- 14:41:07 [shadi]
- VC: agree, usually a body that certifies
- 14:44:57 [shadi]
- MH: what about conformance?
- 14:50:03 [Vivienne]
- Possibly use the title of "Accessibility Declaration"
- 14:50:27 [Vivienne]
- It could include a declaration you make yourself - could be broadly used
- 14:51:52 [shadi]
- SAZ: conformance is a state. a statement declares conformance (or progress towards conformance). accreditation is declaration of competency to make declarations.
- 14:52:24 [shadi]
- YM: declarations can also include self-declarations
- 14:55:38 [shadi]
- SAZ: limit to websites or also include the broader aspects of web accessibility?
- 14:55:42 [Vivienne]
- SA: do we include discussions on the accessibility of tools, UAAG etc
- 14:55:46 [shadi]
- MH: think the latter
- 14:57:06 [Vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
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- Vivienne should now be muted
- 14:57:36 [shadi]
- SAZ: think we can still keep it brief, but mention tools and people where relevant
- 14:57:53 [shadi]
- MH: traditionally had very discrete versioning of software
- 14:58:02 [shadi]
- ...now continually updated software
- 14:59:57 [mhakkinen]
- http://www.accessibilityassociation.org/content.asp?contentid=163
- 15:00:00 [shadi]
- ...how do we certify living objects?
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- SAZ: also applicable to certifying people
- 15:02:04 [shadi]
- ...technologies change and evolve
- 15:02:17 [Vivienne]
- zakim, unmute me
- 15:02:17 [Zakim]
- Vivienne should no longer be muted
- 15:02:19 [shadi]
- YM: but who certifies the certifiers?
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- ...there are no standards and requirements
- 15:02:51 [shadi]
- MH: AAIP working on this
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- SAZ: also other efforts in Europe
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- Topic: Section "Background"
- 15:06:23 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/RDWG-030215/results#xback
- 15:07:49 [shadi]
- MH: mention the policy aspects as an incentive for delcarations
- 15:08:17 [shadi]
- ...products and services are expected to meet certain requirements
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- Topic: Section "References"
- 15:28:04 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/RDWG-030215/results#xrefs
- 15:28:28 [shadi]
- MH: either need to be referenced in the main text, or be called further reading or such
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- -Yehya
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- -mhakkinen
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- -Shadi
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- -Vivienne
- 15:30:49 [Zakim]
- WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
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- Attendees were Shadi, mhakkinen, Vivienne, Yehya
- 15:32:27 [shadi]
- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 15:32:27 [Zakim]
- sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 15:32:35 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/04-rd-minutes.html trackbot
- 15:32:36 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 15:32:36 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items