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14:57:02 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:57:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:57:06 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:57:06 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_WG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:57:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:57:07 <trackbot> Date: 29 January 2015
14:57:13 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Jan/0017.html
14:57:18 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:57:22 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:57:32 <aphillip> Regrets+ felix
14:57:38 <aphillip> Regrets+ dennis
14:57:54 <aphillip> agneda+ RADAR and Active Work Review
14:58:03 <aphillip> agenda+ RADAR and Active Work Review
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14:58:14 <aphillip> agenda+ Indic Layout topics
14:58:29 <aphillip> agenda+ Predefined counter styles publication
14:58:34 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:58:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:58:46 <Zakim> I18N_WG()10:00AM has now started
14:58:52 <Zakim> +Steve_Atkin
14:59:05 <Zakim> + +1.650.426.aaaa
14:59:20 <aphillip> zakim, +1.650.426.aaaa is aphillip
14:59:20 <Zakim> +aphillip; got it
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15:02:48 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:02:48 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:02:49 <Zakim> +Richard
15:03:07 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
15:03:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve_Atkin, aphillip, Leandro, Richard
15:03:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see David, Leandro, Steve_Atkin, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, fantasai, koji, trackbot
15:03:37 <Zakim> +??P9
15:03:54 <David> Zakim, +??P9 is me
15:03:54 <Zakim> sorry, David, I do not recognize a party named '+??P9'
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15:04:04 <David> Zakim, ??P9 is me
15:04:04 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:04:06 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
15:04:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve_Atkin, aphillip, Leandro, Richard, David
15:04:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see JcK, David, Leandro, Steve_Atkin, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, fantasai, koji, trackbot
15:04:29 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
15:04:36 <aphillip> agenda?
15:04:49 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:05:47 <Zakim> +JcK
15:06:10 <aphillip> close action-365
15:06:10 <trackbot> Closed action-365.
15:06:39 <Zakim> +koji
15:07:34 <aphillip> close action-391
15:07:34 <trackbot> Closed action-391.
15:08:05 <aphillip> action-392?
15:08:05 <trackbot> action-392 -- Richard Ishida to Follow up on lock-step publishing counter styles wg document to match css by checking on their status -- due 2015-01-29 -- OPEN
15:08:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/392
15:08:18 <aphillip> richard: did follow up, haven't heard date from them
15:08:28 <aphillip> ... asking for publication here so we can move when we find out
15:08:42 <aphillip> close action-393
15:08:42 <trackbot> Closed action-393.
15:09:10 <aphillip> close action-395
15:09:10 <trackbot> Closed action-395.
15:09:19 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:09:43 <aphillip> JcK: posted a note about IDN situation at IETF and UTC
15:10:17 <r12a> http://rishida.net/scripts/bopomofo/ontheweb.html
15:10:23 <aphillip> richard: worked on above article/page
15:10:31 <aphillip> ... sums up what I know about bopomofo
15:10:35 <aphillip> ... and tone marks
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15:10:47 <aphillip> ... in contact with folks in taiwan
15:10:53 <aphillip> ... including ministry of education
15:11:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:11:32 <aphillip> koji: how is clreq going?
15:11:42 <aphillip> richard: had some long calls with chinese folks
15:11:47 <aphillip> ... talked about clreq
15:11:59 <aphillip> ... have list of chapters that will/wont'b e ready by march
15:12:07 <aphillip> ... march for first public
15:12:11 <aphillip> ... lots of time off in feb
15:12:26 <aphillip> ... adding simplified bits, since t.chinese done first
15:12:30 <aphillip> ... then translate and polish
15:12:38 <aphillip> richard: ruby section now complete in chinese
15:12:45 <aphillip> ... only one in English so far
15:12:53 <aphillip> ... look out for it
15:13:47 <aphillip> koji: does it cover markup and render?
15:13:57 <aphillip> richard: talks about what one would expect to see
15:14:40 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Chinese_layout_progress
15:14:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:15:39 <aphillip> koji: if want to know how to mark up bopomofo, what do you recommend?
15:15:49 <aphillip> richard: don't know if that exists
15:16:26 <aphillip> public-i18n-cjk@
15:16:46 <aphillip> richard: hackpad version points to wrong version
15:16:54 <aphillip> ... (hmm...)
15:17:05 <aphillip> ... go to TOC
15:17:05 <r12a> https://clreq.hackpad.com/Ruby_en-LEZdmNzTVUf
15:17:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:17:41 <aphillip> richard: expect bopomofo to markup same way as japanese
15:18:28 <aphillip> ... just use <rt> tag
15:18:38 <aphillip> ... painful
15:19:09 <aphillip> .... current implementations are all hacks
15:19:55 <aphillip> agenda?
15:20:02 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:20:03 <Zakim> agendum 1. "RADAR and Active Work Review" taken up [from aphillip]
15:20:06 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
15:20:17 <r12a> because html/css doesn't yet support bopomofo ruby
15:21:13 <aphillip> Steve: fininshing up linked data patch
15:21:16 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
15:23:35 <aphillip> action: richard: follow up on Korean Layout Requirements comments,et al (expected due date in late Feburary)
15:23:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-396 - Follow up on korean layout requirements comments,et al (expected due date in late feburary) [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-02-05].
15:24:11 <aphillip> agenda?
15:25:16 <aphillip> action: addison: ping norbert about js progress status
15:25:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-397 - Ping norbert about js progress status [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-02-05].
15:25:47 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:25:47 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Predefined counter styles publication" taken up [from aphillip]
15:26:09 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/counter-styles/
15:26:30 <aphillip> richard: went through and compared to latest counter styles css
15:26:36 <aphillip> ... that's going to CR
15:26:39 <aphillip> ... added notes
15:26:54 <aphillip> ... put some things back into core spec
15:27:04 <aphillip> ... mozilla implemented some
15:27:08 <aphillip> ... odd choices
15:27:30 <aphillip> ... all in spec have two implementations except tamil
15:27:46 <aphillip> ... these are also in our predefined
15:27:57 <aphillip> ... pointers back to css spec
15:28:07 <aphillip> ... change marks in section 1.2
15:28:10 <aphillip> ... how to use
15:28:39 <aphillip> richard: green light to publish as new WD
15:28:54 <aphillip> ... cr period might change things
15:29:01 <aphillip> ... indeed had greek comments
15:29:06 <aphillip> chair: approve?
15:29:20 <Leandro> +1
15:29:21 <koji> +1
15:29:27 <David> +1
15:29:30 <Steve_Atkin> Steve +1
15:29:33 <aphillip> +1
15:29:33 <r12a> +1
15:29:39 <JcK> Note sure I understand all the issues, but +1
15:29:59 <aphillip> chair: approved for publication as a WD
15:30:07 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
15:30:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve_Atkin, aphillip, Leandro, Richard, David, JcK, koji
15:30:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see prashant, JcK, David, Leandro, Steve_Atkin, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, fantasai, koji, trackbot
15:30:40 <aphillip> action: richard: publish predefined counter styles as WD when CSS publishes counter styles as CR
15:30:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-398 - Publish predefined counter styles as wd when css publishes counter styles as cr [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-02-05].
15:32:02 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:33:22 <aphillip> Topic: Bopomofo
15:33:35 <aphillip> richard: look at my article first? will change as we develop
15:33:52 <aphillip> jck: if we want to discuss ietf/utc, should say
15:34:01 <aphillip> richard: saw asmus did a summary
15:34:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:34:15 <aphillip> richard: is there a summary?
15:34:25 <aphillip> jck: mailing list on old idna-bis
15:34:33 <aphillip> ... opinions
15:35:27 <aphillip> ... asmus and I traded clarifications
15:35:46 <aphillip> ... heated opinions with range of variation
15:36:21 <aphillip> ... headed to a separate normalization form for identifiers?
15:36:47 <aphillip> ... unicode properties may no support this??
15:44:35 <Leandro> Need to sign off, talk to you next wekk
15:44:38 <Zakim> -Leandro
15:46:07 <Zakim> -JcK
15:46:08 <Zakim> -Steve_Atkin
15:46:08 <Zakim> -David
15:46:10 <Zakim> -aphillip
15:46:14 <Zakim> -koji
15:46:55 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:46:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:48:44 <koji> r12a: the "questions" section is fantastic
15:52:59 <r12a> thanks koji
15:53:14 <r12a> btw, i'm just editing it a little - i'll ping you when i'm done
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16:12:11 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Leandro, JcK, Steve, David, Koji
16:12:14 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:12:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:12:18 <aphillip> zakim, bye
16:12:18 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Steve_Atkin, aphillip, Leandro, Richard, David, JcK, koji
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16:12:29 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
16:12:29 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-actions.rdf :
16:12:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: follow up on Korean Layout Requirements comments,et al (expected due date in late Feburary) [1]
16:12:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-irc#T15-23-35
16:12:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: ping norbert about js progress status [2]
16:12:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-irc#T15-25-16
16:12:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: publish predefined counter styles as WD when CSS publishes counter styles as CR [3]
16:12:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-i18n-irc#T15-30-40