IRC log of aria on 2014-12-12
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 December 2014
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- chair: Rich
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- meeting: SVG Accessibility Task Force
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- chair: Rich and Fred
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0004.html
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- Taxonomy work Fred:
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0005.html
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0004.html
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- 14:09:40 [fesch]
- scribe: fesch
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- intros: Rich
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- fred: I am on the chair of IBM’s complex visualization working group in the accessibility architecture review board
- 14:11:53 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- fred: I worked on IBM’s RAVE Engine and I believe this is the most accessible charting engine
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- doug:
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- doug: W3C SVG accessibility and staff contact,, doing SVG since 2000/2001, experimental screen reader
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- ami: data Visualizations tools team, - using SVG
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- tav: inkscape interested in accessibility and connectors
- 14:17:02 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- q?
- 14:18:23 [fesch]
- Jason:: educational testing, long history in W3C, very long history with SVG, especially for education applications
- 14:18:55 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0004.html
- 14:19:27 [shepazu]
- q+
- 14:20:26 [fesch]
- Rich: reviewing agenda - Scope of work and why, new ground for a11y
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- Rich: why taxonomy - avoids duplication, have not done on graphics before
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- Rich: also needs to look at navigation
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- doug: tradeoff of pragmatics of what is working today vs where we need to go - SVG tiny not well acceptable - moz not doing focusable
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- doug: need focusable in SVG 2
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- fred, doug, rich: discussion on focus
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- fred, doug, rich: discuss: forcus/ aria-activedesendent and scope of focus
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- doug: need to understand how focus works in HTML 5 and may need to extend for SVG as apposed to activedecsendent
- 14:32:03 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html
- 14:32:33 [fesch]
- rich: for HTML 5 and SVG we are taking aria core API mappings map to platform
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- http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/accname-aam/accname-aam.html
- 14:34:59 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- SVG2 Accessibility API Mappings specification:
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- http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
- 14:35:02 [fesch]
- rich: review of accessible name computation
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- rich: review of SVG2 accessibility API
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- rich: we may need to extend API on platforms, but warning - that makes the time longer
- 14:38:23 [fesch]
- doug: want to avoid extending platform API - if we can
- 14:40:41 [fesch]
- doug: rich mentioned this may work for canvas as well, doug wants to be as generic as possible
- 14:41:37 [fesch]
- rich: authoring practices - may be well ahead of STEM, where is the best place for authoring practices?
- 14:42:26 [fesch]
- doug: maybe authoring practices, examples on webPlatform.org
- 14:43:39 [fesch]
- fesch: i believe we need to create tools for examples
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- doug: argees, sample tools help
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- s/agrees/agrees
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- doug: things grouping is not going to be the challenge
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- fesch: inkscape might be a good place to add tools
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- rich: will have to test with ATs
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- doug: should look at mitigation strategies, like shims/shadow DOMs
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- Jason: what drive a11y API improvements is ARIA
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- rich: we have PF members here, should review SVG related docs - ie connector spec
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- rich: where we are today - SVG2 a11y features, tab index, WIA-ARIA taxonomy
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- Steve Faulkner's SVG ARIA mapping draft https://specs.webplatform.org/SVG1.1-ARIA/webspecs/master/
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- rich: find extension points for aria taxonomy
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- rich: meet on Dec 19 and after that Jan 9
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- +1
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- +!
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1
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- Rich: is an hour OK and the time OK?
- 14:54:43 [shepazu]
- +1
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- Rich: taxonomy and Doug's demo next week - agenda
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- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/12-aria-minutes.html shepazu
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- zakim, list participants
- 15:37:33 [Zakim]
- sorry, MichaelC, I don't know what conference this is
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