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13:52:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
13:52:17 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
13:52:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
13:52:18 <trackbot> Date: 12 December 2014
13:52:27 <richardschwerdtfeger> RRSAgent, make log public
13:52:30 <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich
13:52:47 <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: SVG Accessibility Task Force
13:52:53 <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich and Fred
13:54:43 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0004.html
13:55:39 <richardschwerdtfeger> Taxonomy work Fred:
13:55:44 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0005.html
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13:58:07 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0004.html
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14:09:40 <fesch> scribe: fesch
14:10:46 <fesch> intros: Rich
14:11:23 <richardschwerdtfeger> fred: I am on the chair of IBM’s complex visualization working group in the accessibility architecture review board
14:11:53 <richardschwerdtfeger> fred: I worked on IBM’s RAVE Engine and I believe this is the most accessible charting engine
14:11:59 <fesch> doug:
14:13:39 <fesch> doug: W3C SVG accessibility and staff contact,, doing SVG since 2000/2001, experimental screen reader
14:15:35 <fesch> ami: data Visualizations tools team, - using SVG
14:16:45 <fesch> tav: inkscape interested in accessibility and connectors
14:17:02 <richardschwerdtfeger> q?
14:18:23 <fesch> Jason:: educational testing, long history in W3C, very long history with SVG, especially for education applications
14:18:55 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2014Dec/0004.html
14:19:27 <shepazu> q+
14:20:26 <fesch> Rich: reviewing agenda -   Scope of work and why, new ground for a11y
14:21:24 <fesch> Rich: why taxonomy - avoids duplication, have not done on graphics before
14:21:35 <fesch> Rich: also needs to look at navigation
14:23:02 <fesch> doug: tradeoff of pragmatics of what is working today vs where we need to go - SVG tiny not well acceptable - moz not doing focusable
14:23:38 <fesch> doug: need focusable in SVG 2
14:27:45 <fesch> fred, doug, rich: discussion on focus
14:29:16 <fesch> fred, doug, rich: discuss: forcus/ aria-activedesendent and scope of focus
14:31:11 <fesch> doug: need to understand how focus works in HTML 5 and may need to extend for SVG  as apposed to activedecsendent
14:32:03 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html
14:32:33 <fesch> rich: for HTML 5 and SVG we are taking aria core API mappings map to platform
14:33:56 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/accname-aam/accname-aam.html
14:34:59 <richardschwerdtfeger> SVG2 Accessibility API Mappings specification:
14:35:00 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
14:35:02 <fesch> rich: review of accessible name computation
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14:37:09 <fesch> rich: review of SVG2 accessibility API
14:37:40 <fesch> rich: we may need to extend API on platforms, but warning - that makes the time longer
14:38:23 <fesch> doug: want to avoid extending platform API - if we can
14:40:41 <fesch> doug:  rich mentioned this may work for canvas as well,  doug wants to be as generic as possible
14:41:37 <fesch> rich: authoring practices - may be well ahead of STEM, where is the best place for authoring practices?
14:42:26 <fesch> doug: maybe authoring practices, examples on webPlatform.org
14:43:39 <fesch> fesch: i believe we need to create tools for examples
14:44:09 <fesch> doug: argees, sample tools help
14:44:26 <fesch> s/agrees/agrees
14:44:51 <fesch> doug: things grouping is not going to be the challenge
14:45:44 <fesch> fesch: inkscape might be a good place to add tools
14:47:15 <fesch> rich: will have to test with ATs
14:49:20 <fesch> doug: should look at mitigation strategies, like shims/shadow DOMs
14:50:07 <fesch> Jason: what drive a11y API improvements is ARIA
14:51:05 <fesch> rich: we have PF members here, should review SVG related docs  - ie connector spec
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14:52:24 <fesch> rich: where we are today - SVG2 a11y features, tab index, WIA-ARIA taxonomy
14:52:38 <shepazu> Steve Faulkner's SVG ARIA mapping draft https://specs.webplatform.org/SVG1.1-ARIA/webspecs/master/
14:52:40 <fesch> rich: find extension points for aria taxonomy
14:53:51 <fesch> rich: meet on Dec 19 and after that Jan 9
14:53:51 <shepazu> +1
14:53:54 <shepazu> +!
14:53:54 <richardschwerdtfeger> +1
14:53:55 <fesch> +1
14:54:03 <Amy> +1
14:54:14 <shepazu> +1
14:54:17 <Tav> +1
14:54:37 <fesch> Rich: is an hour OK and the time OK?
14:54:43 <shepazu> +1
14:55:09 <fesch> Rich: taxonomy and Doug's demo next week - agenda
14:57:12 <shepazu> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:57:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/12-aria-minutes.html shepazu
15:37:33 <MichaelC> zakim, list participants
15:37:33 <Zakim> sorry, MichaelC, I don't know what conference this is
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