IRC log of coga on 2014-12-08

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16:12:20 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #coga
16:12:21 [RRSAgent]: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/12/08-coga-irc
16:12:30 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, this will be WAI_CogTF
16:12:30 [Zakim]: ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 48 minutes
16:12:55 [Lisa_Seeman]: regrets: John Rochford, Barry Johnson, Mary Jo Mueller, Kinshuk, Steve Lee, Katherine Deibel, Tim Boland, Elle, Deborah Dahl
16:13:20 [Lisa_Seeman]: chair: Lisa_Seeman
16:13:31 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda: this
16:13:33 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ review of agenda, new items
16:13:34 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ review of different activities
16:13:36 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ steps for editors draft including
16:13:37 [Lisa_Seeman]: checking cog table and
16:13:39 [Lisa_Seeman]: adding ADD changes
16:13:40 [Lisa_Seeman]: proffing
16:13:42 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ actions
16:13:43 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ techniques
16:13:45 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ issue papers
16:13:46 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ Next FTF
16:13:48 [Lisa_Seeman]: agenda+ be done
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16:41:33 [Lisa_Seeman]: regrets: John Rochford, Barry Johnson, Mary Jo Mueller, Kinshuk, Steve Lee, Katherine Deibel, Tim Boland, Elle, Deborah Dahl,Chaohai Ding
16:51:45 [Michel_]: Michel_ has joined #coga
16:52:56 [Zakim]: WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
16:53:03 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
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16:56:54 [Zakim]: + +1.804.749.aaaa
16:57:21 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, [IPcaller] is me
16:57:21 [Zakim]: +Lisa_Seeman; got it
16:58:03 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, aaaa is DebraRue
16:58:03 [Zakim]: +DebraRue; got it
16:58:40 [Zakim]: + +1.617.959.aabb
16:58:58 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, DebraRue is DebraRuh
16:58:58 [Zakim]: +DebraRuh; got it
16:59:42 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, aabb is Michel_
16:59:42 [Zakim]: +Michel_; got it
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17:01:59 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
17:02:18 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, [IPcaller] is EA
17:02:18 [Zakim]: +EA; got it
17:02:50 [Lisa_Seeman]: scribe: ea
17:03:09 [Zakim]: +Tim_Boland
17:03:24 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, next item
17:03:25 [Zakim]: agendum 1. "review of agenda, new items" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:03:51 [Zakim]: +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:04:06 [Tim]: Tim has joined #coga
17:04:20 [ea]: Review main page on the wiki to re-orientate those who have missed a few calls
17:04:45 [ea]: The wiki page is at https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
17:05:07 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, next item
17:05:07 [Zakim]: agendum 2. "review of different activities" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:06:35 [ea]: Lisa went over what the mandate was for the group - this can be extended and that is a process but W3C would rather see a tight mandate and good outcomes
17:07:54 [ea]: At present we are working on the Gap Analysis that is split into modules... it is getting too big and bulky so now it is a separate document. Changes can be made but these need to be done on Github - html documents can be sent out to those not happy working on Github
17:08:21 [ea]: Lisa would like to send it as a working draft to WCAG etc.
17:08:54 [ea]: At the same time strategies and techniques are being collated
17:10:06 [ea]: Each research group is doing this for their sections as well as issues that are related to cognitive impairment - these may be specific such as security and CAPTCHAS etc
17:12:08 [ea]: Key links are also on the main page such as the road map and older documents. Key resolutions are also on this page so everyone can see what has been resolved in the past - these items can be brought up again but first read items that have already been discussed e.g. avoiding the term 'ICT'
17:12:41 [Tony_Doran]: Tony_Doran has joined #coga
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17:12:45 [ea]: Lisa is keeping links for the various reports
17:13:29 [Tim]: how long is current mandate?
17:13:33 [ea]: Tim Boland asked how long the mandate lasts - Lisa will send this to the list as a request
17:13:52 [Zakim]: +Tony_Doran
17:14:01 [ea]: ooops sorry
17:14:05 [Lisa_Seeman]: Q?
17:17:21 [ea]: Michel felt that she could offer editing help and was happy with what she saw on the pages. She will join John and Lisa on Skype on 9th Dec.
17:18:11 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, next item
17:18:11 [Zakim]: agendum 3. "steps for editors draft including" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:18:30 [Lisa_Seeman]: https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/coga-gap-analysis-2014-fpwd/coga/user-research.html
17:19:07 [ea]: Debra, EA and Joshua still need to sort out the non-vocal and Aphasia section
17:20:17 [Zakim]: -Tim_Boland
17:22:28 [ea]: EA has said the changes to non-vocal and Aphasia will be completed in the next two weeks
17:23:17 [Lisa_Seeman]: https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/coga-gap-analysis-2014-fpwd/coga/user-research.html#summary-of-user-groups-and-cognitive-function
17:23:43 [Zakim]: -Lisa_Seeman
17:24:02 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
17:31:11 [ea]: EA to also work on the Cognitive Function Table and Tags - asterisk for known issues and divide up non-vocal into non-verbal and Aphasia. Lisa suggested perhaps sending it out for comments with a disclaimer
17:31:42 [Lisa_Seeman]: action: EA to also work on the Cognitive Function Table and Tags
17:31:42 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-71 - Also work on the cognitive function table and tags [on E.A. Draffan - due 2014-12-15].
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17:32:28 [ea]: Other groups are to be encouraged to review the Cognitive Function Table and Tags
17:33:21 [ea]: The table is there to encourage people to think about functionality rather than taking the medical model of disabilities
17:33:55 [ea]: Debra Ruh will look at Downs Syndrome and Neil to look at Dyscalculia and other sections
17:34:35 [ea]: Lisa stressed this does not have to be perfect as it is a first working draft.
17:35:50 [Lisa_Seeman]: https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/coga-gap-analysis-2014-fpwd/coga/user-research.html#potential-for-inclusion
17:36:02 [Zakim]: -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:36:59 [Lisa_Seeman]: q?
17:37:03 [ea]: Lisa went over what is proposed and was discussing whether it was a good fit in this part of the documentation
17:37:25 [ea]: Silence
17:38:02 [Lisa_Seeman]: debra rue agrees
17:40:35 [Lisa_Seeman]: resolved: other known items and editorial we are ready for first working draft of user group research
17:41:49 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, next item
17:41:49 [Zakim]: agendum 4. "actions" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:41:54 [ea]: Planned to be completed before Christmas
17:42:05 [Zakim]: +??P0
17:42:13 [janina]: zakim, ??P0 is me
17:42:13 [Zakim]: +janina; got it
17:43:18 [ea]: Lisa asked Tony about the techniques for Dyslexia - Tony said that he had been very busy.
17:44:14 [ea]: Lisa asked about techniques for Ageing, Autism, Downs Syndrome and ADHD
17:44:34 [Lisa_Seeman]: action: Michel to write the techniques for ADHD, and Autism
17:44:35 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-72 - Write the techniques for adhd, and autism [on Michel Fitos - due 2014-12-15].
17:45:09 [Zakim]: +??P2
17:45:52 [ea]: The techniques page is on https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Techniques_and_Strategies_For_The_Cognitive_and_Learning_Disabilities_Accessibility_Task_Force_%28COGA%29
17:46:05 [Lisa_Seeman]: action: DebraR to write the techniques for Downs
17:46:05 [trackbot]: Error finding 'DebraR'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
17:46:40 [Lisa_Seeman]: action: Debra Ruh to write the techniques for Down Syndrome
17:46:40 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-73 - Ruh to write the techniques for down syndrome [on Debra Ruh - due 2014-12-15].
17:46:46 [ea]: MichelF offered to do ADHD
17:46:56 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, next item
17:46:56 [Zakim]: agendum 5. "techniques" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:48:02 [ea]: Michel also doing Autism techniques
17:48:32 [Lisa_Seeman]: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis_Issue_Papers
17:51:11 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, next item
17:51:11 [Zakim]: agendum 6. "issue papers" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:51:14 [Lisa_Seeman]: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis_Issue_Papers
17:51:22 [ea]: There have been several suggestions for issue papers such as interoperable symbols for AAC users, Neil is doing number issues etc.Lisa mentioned that other issue papers could be linked to the use cases in the gap analysis.
17:54:49 [ea]: Lisa mentioned safety when being online as although we have security we have not looked at the privacy side of things for those who are vulnerable.
17:55:05 [Tony_Doran]: Apologies I need to drop off.
17:55:09 [Zakim]: -Tony_Doran
17:55:51 [Zakim]: -Michel_
17:56:15 [ea]: Debra Ruh suggested that the group should be looking at the papers and perhaps in the future people would be able to take some on.
17:57:21 [ea]: Lisa will send her draft issue paper for comments.
17:57:46 [Lisa_Seeman]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0060/COGAIssuePaperVioceML.html
17:59:46 [Lisa_Seeman]: q?
18:00:21 [ea]: It just needs a bit of proof reading
18:00:46 [Lisa_Seeman]: Debra rue is also +1
18:00:46 [ea]: Debra said it was fine
18:01:23 [Lisa_Seeman]: rrsagent, make logs public
18:01:34 [Lisa_Seeman]: rrsagent, create minutes
18:01:34 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/08-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
18:02:05 [Lisa_Seeman]: zakim, please part
18:02:05 [Zakim]: leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.804.749.aaaa, Lisa_Seeman, +1.617.959.aabb, DebraRuh, Michel_, EA, Tim_Boland, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Tony_Doran, [IPcaller], janina,
18:02:05 [Zakim]: Zakim has left #coga
18:02:09 [Zakim]: ... Michael_Cooper
18:02:12 [Lisa_Seeman]: rrsagent, please part
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/08-coga-actions.rdf :
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: EA to also work on the Cognitive Function Table and Tags [1]
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/08-coga-irc#T17-31-42
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Michel to write the techniques for ADHD, and Autism [2]
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/08-coga-irc#T17-44-34
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: DebraR to write the techniques for Downs [3]
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/08-coga-irc#T17-46-05
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Debra Ruh to write the techniques for Down Syndrome [4]
18:02:12 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/08-coga-irc#T17-46-40