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<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
<Chaohai_Ding> Sorry for the ISP service for me seems not work today.
<slee> I'm geting no sound from Ekiga again, though the W3c test service works juts fine :(
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: John
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe:JohnRochford
<slee> Lisa - OK thanks, I thought they had fixed it :(
<slee> hi!
Lisa: Janina suggests issue paper
be renamed to "Issue Paper: Gap Analysis".
... Example = "COGA Issue Paper: Gap Analysis: Web Security
Technologies".
<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/0028.html
<Tony_Doran> I There is some great ideas in there
<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Nov/att-0028/WebSecurity.html
<Tony_Doran> ?
slee: privacy, such as with Facebook profiles, should be added as an issue
John: Should privacy be its own issue paper, or added to the web security issue paper?
<Tony_Doran> I would agree
<Tony_Doran> no privacy without security and vice versa
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say the domain of privacy and security is well worked out; suggest approaching Privacy IG
<Tony_Doran> federated IDs complicate this greatly
Michael: Privacy should be referred to the W3C working group
clarification: the W3C privacy working group
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say address the questions you need to address without worrying about whether they´re ¨privacy¨ or ¨security¨, sort that out later with guidance
<Lisa_Seeman> qq?
Michael: Correction: We should address security and privacy together as part of our working group's efforts.
Tony_Doran: We should work to
make sure privacy-related instructions are accessible to people
with CD
... About security issue paper, it's a great idea to develop
and use common sets of vocabulary and iconography across web
security technologies.
<Tony_Doran> "Language" is visual as well as text based. Simple language should apply across visual and text etc etc
Lisa: We would like John to add info about privacy and security instructions being accessible.
slee: high-security option should be default
<Tony_Doran> ..as long as you remember the fob!
Lisa: when security-requirements are arduous, they will be circumvented by users with insecure techniques/methods
Michael: we do want to document the web security technology differentials for people with CD
Janina: Perhaps web security technologies are purposely difficult so users spend more time on site and see advertisements
<neilmilliken> Zakim
<slee> neilmilliken: perhaps it is case sensitive?
Lisa: We should list usability and accessibility issues in terms of how they affect people with CD
<neilmilliken> perhaps it hates me steve
Lisa: a typical circumvention technique is to write down passwords on pieces of paper
<janina> Leaving now to join ARIA. Sorry!
<neilmilliken> I have a password safe app
<neilmilliken> now I have touch ID on my password app :)
Lisa: people with CD may not be able to recall where they hid piece of paper with password, or other people may find it who should not
<neilmilliken> yes john great stuff so far
<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0045.html
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: lisa_seeman
<slee> I have to head off too
niel: 0 is the best number for reserved number - easy to find and seprate
<ddahl_> I need to go now, bye!
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