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<trackbot> Date: 09 September 2014
<Kenny> zakimm, IPcaller is Joshue
<AWK> Chair: AWK
<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List
<scribe> Scribe: David
AWK: Publishing on Thursday
AWK: a couple of months ago we spoke about TPAC, katie, Michael, Kenny, wondering about others
Loretta: Intending to come Sunday afternoon and Monday
AWK: polled about meeting ...
majority wanted Sun -Mon instead of MON, Tues, or WED
-Thurs.
... Adobe can't host again...
... if we do afternoon monday, or sunday... it's tough for
remote...
... wanted to get a sense of who could come
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to mention time zone
Michael: For those remotely.... Norht A. will be differeent daylight savings than Europe... easier for europe
Europe: 4pm-12am
AWK: is there reason for us to try to meet Mon-Tues? looks like sunday might be lightly... not sure if W3C could do that
Michael: Might be hard to take back room from other groups who might be meeting one day...
<Joshue108> DMacD: I'm in a similar situation to Josh
<Joshue108> DMacD: I'm also in HTML5 and the a11y tf
<Joshue108> DMacD: Would like to go
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to mention other registrants
MC: Vivian registered, Wilhelm, Lisa registered but maybe not depending on Cognitive task force...
AWK: Tuesday might be a time to crank on techniques...
AWK: it's coming soon...
<Joshue108> Da, da ,da
<Joshue108> zakim mute me
<AWK> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept9Survey2014/results
AWK: concerned about consultation on specific bits of code...
<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/REC-WCAG20-20081211/2964
<Joshue108> +q
Loretta: I don't think we should be providing feedback over whether a page passes...
RESOLUTION: accepted LC-2964 as amended
<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/G4
<Joshue108> DMacD: Are they OR statements?
<Joshue108> DMacD: So you don't need a pause button?
<Joshue108> AWK: What do ya mean?
<Joshue108> DMacD: Thats ok, I get it
AWK: does the addition of a 3rd
bullet any more of a mobile technique than it is already
... they could have modified the first two bullets rather than
add a bullet
Joshue: be good to weave mobile language throughout such as gesture...
AWK: maybe send it back to TF with that suggestion
<AWK> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/G4
James: we might want to not encourage bad stuff, such as scrolling news banners,
AWK: techniques about scrolling
content in general
... objections to sending back:
RESOLUTION: leave open pending comments from the group, regarding weaving mobile language throughout, and modifying first two bullets...
AWK: sounds like it is making real world over the internet... wondering if that is in scope
Loretta: mobile is not necessary the internet... need to be careful when doing mobile techniques that we distinguish web and non web
James: sounds like just having the mobile device as a source of captions
AWK: send back, not sure whether it is online, any way to adapt example 1, or clarify....
TOOIC: compendium draft survey
Loretta: public/private.... but I'm not sure what buckets we want to put them in...
Joshue: we toying with ideas with filtering, based on user preference, developer vs. designer, etc... procurer...
Loretta: I support that but I don't think this question... we should put in an open question
Joshue: list of roles... which do you most identify with
Loretta: allow more than one selection
Joshue: maybe an open ended tell us about yourself
Loretta: tougher for us to analyse
Joshue: policy, developer or procurer are my three main categories
Loretta: I haven't been thinking
about that
... in the early days in the understanding
<Joshue108> I've pinged Kim and Kathy on both the G9 and G4 mobile techniques
AWK: techniques #3 needs
clarification
... concerned that survey too long, and not finished... maybe
some branching is necessary
Loretta: many think the documents are too complex and long.
Joshue: being quite specific to give us an idea of what people are using or if they are using them the way we hope they are
AWK: don't want to remove the
"have you read this section"... that will help us
... good to add country question
David: are we going to translate into other languages
<Joshue108> DMacD: What about other languages?
<Joshue108> MC: We could tap some other those who have done translations previously
<Joshue108> JOC: Good catch
<MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/translations
AWK: : seems fair not to provide survey in languages that don't have translations
Sailesh: branching out can be helpful
<Joshue108> JOC: If there is anything missing then let AWK and I know, either on list or ping us directly
David: Government of Canada says XML schema too tough to contribute to
AWK: that may be at a different level... we have on our radar about the XML...
David: What survey mechnism... ours, survey monkey etc...?
AWK: also Adobe forms or other tools possible
Joshue: I like Survey Monkey... might be useful... our WBS doesn't have graphs charts etc.. does Adobe have charts etc...
AWK: not sure if it has charts, not sure about branching...
Joshue: Survey monkey is accessible out of the box
Sailesh: where will we go to get word out
AWK: webaim list, social networks...
<Joshue108> +1 to David
David: if we use survey monkey it gives the impression its public and out there for them... whereas the WBS may give an internal flavour
Joshue: me and michael agree
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