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00:44:15 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 14d11bf8e 15Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Try to explain why postMessage()'s privacy implications aren't actually anything new...
00:44:15 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 146707bed 15Robin Berjon: Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into whatwg
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15:58:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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15:58:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
15:58:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
15:58:26 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:58:26 <trackbot> Date: 04 September 2014
15:58:39 <paulc> zakim, what is the meeting code?
15:58:39 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
15:58:46 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:58:46 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
15:59:04 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
15:59:11 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:59:12 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:59:13 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:59:34 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0019.html
15:59:42 <Zakim> +ShaneM
15:59:49 <ShaneM> ScribeNick: ShaneM
16:00:08 <Zakim> +glenn
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16:00:29 <Zakim> +Sam
16:00:32 <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0019.html
16:00:42 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:00:45 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
16:00:45 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
16:01:04 <Zakim> +??P8
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16:01:10 <janina> zakim, ??P8 is me
16:01:11 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:01:52 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
16:01:56 <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft.a has me
16:01:56 <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
16:03:03 <Zakim> +Daniel_Wester
16:03:28 <paulc> zakim, who is here?
16:03:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, glenn, Plh, Sam, [Microsoft], janina, [Microsoft.a], Daniel_Wester
16:03:29 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Eliot
16:03:29 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
16:03:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see Eliot, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, rubys, jaymunro, Lachy, jernoble, ShaneM, logbot, heycam|away, gavin, ed, paul___irish, Philip, tH, jgraham, AAA_awright, Hixie,
16:03:31 <Zakim> ... decadance, jmb, MikeSmith, mattur_, tommorris, krit, pdr__, cabanier, timeless, cwilso, Josh_Soref___, tobie, hober, johndrinkwater, mjs, karl, krijnhoetmer, anssik,
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16:03:47 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:03:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, glenn, Plh, Sam, [Microsoft], janina, [Microsoft.a], Daniel_Wester
16:03:51 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Eliot
16:03:51 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
16:03:56 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action Items
16:04:07 <ShaneM> CHAIR: Paul
16:04:12 <ShaneM> No action items due
16:04:18 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Items closing today
16:04:26 <ShaneM> s/today/this week/
16:04:28 <ShaneM> None.
16:04:40 <ShaneM> TOPIC: New calls this week
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16:04:51 <ShaneM> a) CfC: Request transition of HTML5 to Proposed Recommendation closes Mon Sep 8
16:04:58 <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Sep/0000.html
16:05:23 <ShaneM> one person has provided feedback so far.  Looking for statements of support or dissent.  Please respond to the email.
16:05:33 <ShaneM> CfC closes on Monday, 8 September.
16:05:47 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Publication and CR Status
16:05:57 <ShaneM> a) Canvas2D CR ending no earlier than Sep 9
16:06:04 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/CR-2dcontext-20140821/
16:06:28 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Sep/0008.html
16:06:37 <ShaneM> Chairs have started studying the canvas task force situation.  Sam sent out email about the TF. It will convene on Monday at 6 PM eastern.
16:07:08 <Zakim> +CyrilRa
16:07:10 <Zakim> -Daniel_Wester
16:07:23 <ShaneM> There is a thread on public-canvas-api about testing.
16:07:27 <ShaneM> b) DOM4 Last Call ended Jul 31
16:07:33 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-dom-20140710/
16:07:35 <plh> q+
16:07:56 <ShaneM> There is an outstanding bug (24918) on the reference to the URL spec.  The spec was recently assigned to the webapps working group to progress it.
16:07:58 <ShaneM> ack p
16:08:19 <ShaneM> plh: the editor is considering the feedback from last week.  More progress will be made next week.
16:08:44 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1227
16:09:10 <ShaneM> ... the other thing we are lacking is some tests.  execution of the tests is pretty good.  need to validate results.  Should no longer be a blocked.
16:09:15 <ShaneM> s/blocked/blocker/
16:09:49 <ShaneM> That was the only area where we were thought to be deficient in the area of test coverage.
16:10:09 <plh> http://w3c.github.io/test-results/dom/less-than-2.html
16:10:27 <paulc> [4] http://w3c.github.io/test-results/dom/details.html
16:11:30 <ShaneM> plh: there was a change done to reintroduce the named node map.  not sure Robin has figured out what he wants to do with that change.
16:11:45 <ShaneM> paulc: was there a bug related to this?
16:11:55 <ShaneM> plh: not immediately available.
16:12:43 <ShaneM> plh: It would be bad news if we decide to reintroduce it.  Putting it in would require a return to last call.
16:12:54 <rubys> q+ to ask why this couldn't wait until the next version of the DOM spec?
16:13:13 <paulc> ack rubys
16:13:13 <Zakim> rubys, you wanted to ask why this couldn't wait until the next version of the DOM spec?
16:13:24 <Zakim> -ShaneM
16:13:24 <ShaneM> rubys: can this wait until the next release?
16:13:46 <Zakim> +ShaneM
16:14:02 <ShaneM> plh: maybe but we haven't heard from Robin about it yet.
16:14:06 <paulc> plh: We are not sure how to answer Sam's question
16:14:20 <ShaneM> c) Publication of "Techniques for Providing Useful Text Alternatives" as a WG Note
16:14:25 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
16:15:02 <ShaneM> paulc: we last week set a target of mid September to publish.  We assume it will be taken up at the 11 Sep A11Y Task Force meeting.
16:15:09 <ShaneM> d) Longdesc progression to CR
16:15:17 <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Sep/0000.html
16:15:39 <ShaneM> janina: Should have a CfC within the next day.
16:16:12 <ShaneM> ... might make an additional editorial change since the A11Y task force agreed it was okay.
16:16:28 <ShaneM> ... Need the PR version of the spec for the CfC.
16:16:47 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Future Meetings
16:16:54 <ShaneM> a) Extensible Web Summit, Berlin, Sep 11
16:16:59 <ShaneM> http://lanyrd.com/2014/extwebsummit-berlin/
16:17:35 <ShaneM> paulc: some lightning talks in the first hour.  sponsored partially by the TAG.
16:17:43 <ShaneM> b) HTML WG F2F and TPAC, Oct 30-31
16:17:50 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/
16:18:01 <ShaneM> HTMLWG is meeting thursday and friday
16:18:32 <ShaneM> came up with 5 or 6 topics that we might want to talk about from an A11Y perspective.
16:18:48 <ShaneM> Need to get a Wiki set up to ask for nomination of topics.
16:19:08 <ShaneM> Might want to meet with not only A11Y experts, but also SVG experts.
16:20:24 <paulc> A11Y TF discussion of topics: http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
16:21:22 <ShaneM> Janina and Paulc will make sure it is set up.
16:22:18 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Any other business
16:22:23 <ShaneM> None...
16:22:29 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeing
16:22:32 <ShaneM> s/meeing/meeting/
16:22:37 <ShaneM> Sam will chair next week.
16:23:00 <ShaneM> If no one else volunteers, then paulc will scribe.
16:23:04 <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:23:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
16:23:20 <Zakim> -glenn
16:23:21 <Zakim> -Plh
16:23:21 <Zakim> -Sam
16:23:22 <Zakim> -CyrilRa
16:23:22 <Zakim> -janina
16:23:24 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
16:23:24 <Zakim> -paulc
16:23:25 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:23:52 <Zakim> -ShaneM
16:23:53 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:23:53 <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, ShaneM, glenn, Plh, Sam, jaymunro, janina, [Microsoft], Eliot, Daniel_Wester, CyrilRa
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21:43:51 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 1460dfc61 15Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Make use of the DOM spec's 'node document' concept. I sure would appreciate careful review of this diff, since it is quite likely that I made some mistakes....
21:43:51 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 145f3cea7 15Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Clean up usemap-related algorithms...
21:43:51 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 14193ac0a 15Ian Hickson: [giow] (2) Make RadioNodeList's radio button logic support the magical 'on' value....
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22:44:39 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 1410ab760 15Ian Hickson: [giow] (0) Update how 'br' is specced at the CSS level. This depends on as-yet incomplete CSS changes....
22:44:39 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 1491b3199 15Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Try to clarify 'form control is disabled'....
22:44:39 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 14030a2f6 15Robin Berjon: Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into whatwg
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23:44:06 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 147d2f817 15Ian Hickson: [giow] (0) Define an API to clear all the hit regions, for authors who don't need to use clearRect() since everything they paint is opaque....
23:44:06 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 14af35998 15Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Give an example of why <main> might be used multiple times in a document....
23:44:06 <gitbot> 13html/06whatwg 14389cb25 15Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Reference RFC4337 (MIME Type Registration for MPEG-4, video/mp4)....
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