IRC log of coga on 2014-06-23
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/23-coga-irc
- 15:14:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets: Jim Allen, E.A. Draffan, Debra Ruh,Kinshuk
- 15:14:13 [Lisa_Seeman]
- chair: Lisa_Seeman
- 15:21:14 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda: this
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- agenda+ set scribe
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- agenda+ cchp
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- agenda+ review actions, updates, groups, schedules
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- agenda+ technology reviews , setting technology and action items and review of findings
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- agenda+ techniques page tags
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- agenda+ user group findings
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- agenda+ technology reviews and approaches: functional approach to inclusion
- 15:21:27 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ be done
- 15:50:39 [Zakim]
- WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
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- +??P0
- 15:51:16 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, ??P0 is Lisa_Seeman
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- +Lisa_Seeman; got it
- 15:51:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, next item
- 15:51:47 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "set scribe" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
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- +??P5
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- +neil
- 15:56:58 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, ??P5 is NeilMilliken
- 15:56:58 [Zakim]
- +NeilMilliken; got it
- 15:57:18 [JohnRochford]
- zakim, ??P5 is JohnRochford
- 15:57:18 [Zakim]
- I already had ??P5 as NeilMilliken, JohnRochford
- 15:57:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, who is here
- 15:57:42 [Zakim]
- Lisa_Seeman, you need to end that query with '?'
- 15:57:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:57:47 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, NeilMilliken, neil
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- On IRC I see NeilMilliken, JohnRochford, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC, trackbot
- 15:58:16 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, NeilMilliken is JohnRochford
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- +JohnRochford; got it
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- + +1.780.934.aaaa
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- +??P6
- 16:00:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, +1.780.934.aaaa is Kinshuk
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- +Kinshuk; got it
- 16:01:23 [Tony_Doran]
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- + +44.289.442.aabb
- 16:02:37 [Kinshuk]
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- 16:02:57 [Lisa_Seeman]
- scribe: Kinshuk
- 16:03:11 [MichaelC]
- zakim, aabb is Tony_Doran
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- +Tony_Doran; got it
- 16:03:25 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, +44.289.442.aabb is Tony_Doran
- 16:03:25 [Zakim]
- sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '+44.289.442.aabb'
- 16:03:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, 44.289.442.aabb is Tony_Doran
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- sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '44.289.442.aabb'
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- 16:03:57 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, +44 is Tony_Doran
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- sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '+44'
- 16:04:22 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, next item
- 16:04:22 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "cchp" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
- 16:04:53 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Are people attending CCHP conference?
- 16:05:00 [Kinshuk]
- John: No
- 16:06:28 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://www.icchp.org/
- 16:06:36 [Tony_Doran]
- Thanks
- 16:06:38 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "review actions, updates, groups, schedules" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
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- +Debbie_Dahl
- 16:06:56 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/
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- + +1.512.445.aacc
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- - +1.512.445.aacc
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- + +1.512.445.aadd
- 16:08:20 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Kinshuk will complete review of adaptive technologies and post to wiki this week.
- 16:08:33 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, 512 is suzzan
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- sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '512'
- 16:08:59 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: We are going through open action items.
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- +Joseph_O´Conno
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- zakim, aadd is Susann_Keohane
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- +Susann_Keohane; got it
- 16:10:48 [Kinshuk]
- Debbie: Progress on Aphesia is continuing.
- 16:11:56 [Kinshuk]
- Sussanne: Progress on ADD group is continuing, but it will be few weeks before it can be posted.
- 16:12:38 [Kinshuk]
- John: Not part of Downs Syndrome group.
- 16:13:29 [Kinshuk]
- No further update on Aging and Dementia
- 16:14:28 [Kinshuk]
- John: Past week received new content on Autism, and will be adding to gap analysis very soon.
- 16:15:09 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: In terms of technology review, Steve has done fantastic work on Fluid.
- 16:15:58 [Kinshuk]
- Joseph: Will update non-vocal update today.
- 16:17:08 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Action items on gpii and fluid will be marked as done.
- 16:18:15 [Kinshuk]
- Deborah: No useful content for tech simplication is found, but will continue to monitor.
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- -Tony_Doran
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- +Tony_Doran
- 16:19:00 [Tony_Doran]
- Sorry me back in call dropped
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- 16:19:16 [Tony_Doran]
- zakim, aabb is Tony_Doran
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- sorry, Tony_Doran, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
- 16:20:03 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, next item
- 16:20:03 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "technology reviews , setting technology and action items and review of findings" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
- 16:20:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
- 16:20:58 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Would like to review what technologies are missing taht should be covered.
- 16:21:33 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:22:08 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
- 16:22:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist
- 16:23:02 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: We should look at HTML 5 wish list, and see if anything else should be added.
- 16:23:49 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Should we be looking at input type numeric?
- 16:24:23 [Kinshuk]
- Neil: Yes, we should.
- 16:24:30 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: OK. Let's add that.
- 16:25:45 [Kinshuk]
- Debbie: Looking at emotional analysis is good idea, particularly with respect to autism.
- 16:25:46 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Emotion Markup - debra Dahl
- 16:26:35 [JohnRochford]
- q+
- 16:26:36 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: John could perhaps look at Full Transcript?
- 16:26:56 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: JohnF and not JohnR
- 16:28:09 [Kinshuk]
- John: Text-to-Speech should be addded as technology.
- 16:28:19 [Tony_Doran]
- TTS is a technology that should be added
- 16:29:41 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Tony, please also look at Dyslexia.
- 16:29:54 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia
- 16:30:15 [ddahl]
- The EmotionML spec includes a use case for annotating text or media with emotions to assist people with autism in interpreting emotions (http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-emotionml-20140522/#s1.1)
- 16:30:51 [Tony_Doran]
- Ok - can start on that week starting 14th July
- 16:31:05 [Tim]
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- 16:31:58 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Next haptic output - intersting and possibly useful. Should we add it to wish list?
- 16:32:00 [Tony_Doran]
- Great to finally get involved btw.
- 16:32:06 [NeilMilliken]
- Speech recognition should be on the list too
- 16:32:46 [Kinshuk]
- John: We should add haptics to our list.
- 16:32:56 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Haptic Output should be on our radar
- 16:33:16 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Gaming?
- 16:34:29 [Kinshuk]
- There is work going on Game Accessibility Guidelines
- 16:34:35 [NeilMilliken]
- http://gameaccessibilityguidelines.com/
- 16:34:49 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: Gaming is important, and theer is also gamification.
- 16:34:54 [Lisa_Seeman]
- games and gamification
- 16:35:53 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa
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- +Tim_Boland
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- -Kinshuk
- 16:37:57 [Kinshuk]
- Lisa: My connection dropped out.
- 16:38:03 [Kinshuk]
- I shall try to recoonect.
- 16:39:35 [Tony_Doran]
- Ok will email, but again sorry will be week starting 14th July. Lots of relevant stuff to cog in :)
- 16:42:13 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:42:20 [Tony_Doran]
- Yes yes yes. Standardising access keys is a great idea. So so many implementations out there with no standard to point to.
- 16:42:21 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Ack jo
- 16:43:27 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, next item
- 16:43:27 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "techniques page tags" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
- 16:43:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/TechniquesCOGA.html
- 16:44:52 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Jun/0038.html
- 16:45:55 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: We should have a tag system the techniques page
- 16:46:05 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Use left-justified with ragged right edge.
- 16:46:07 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Plus tags: Language reading
- 16:46:08 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Negative localization tags: Hebrew Arabic Chinese
- 16:46:57 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: Tag system should be by disability
- 16:48:01 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: Tag system examples: plus tags for language reading; negative localization tags for Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese
- 16:49:16 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: Correction - tag system should be by function, not disability
- 16:50:56 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: One issue is that some techniques are good for some people but not for others
- 16:51:20 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: Another issue is about language localization
- 16:52:08 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: Default is that a technique would be good for everyone, including speakers of all languages
- 16:53:12 [NeilMilliken]
- I understand the underlying context - the issue is complex
- 16:54:29 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: There would be a field for each technique for tags, e.g., "good for language or reading"
- 16:55:00 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: We would also be groups that a technique is bad for
- 16:55:43 [JohnRochford]
- John: Correction - There would also be groups that a technique would be bad for
- 16:56:24 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: There would be separate lines or fields in which the tags would be added
- 16:56:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:56:54 [JohnRochford]
- Lisa: Another term for "tags" is "key words"
- 16:57:18 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Use left-justified with ragged right edge.
- 16:57:20 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Plus tags: Language reading
- 16:57:22 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Negative localization tags: Hebrew Arabic Chinese
- 16:58:19 [Lisa_Seeman]
- use for (keyword): Language reading
- 17:00:02 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Cooper
- 17:00:04 [Zakim]
- -Joseph_O´Conno
- 17:00:09 [Zakim]
- -Susann_Keohane
- 17:01:15 [Susann_Keohane]
- Susann_Keohane has left #coga
- 17:01:57 [Tony_Doran]
- Super
- 17:02:01 [Zakim]
- -JohnRochford
- 17:02:02 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
- 17:02:04 [Zakim]
- -Debbie_Dahl
- 17:02:05 [Tony_Doran]
- Speak to you all in 3 weeks
- 17:02:11 [Zakim]
- -neil
- 17:02:19 [Zakim]
- -Tony_Doran
- 17:03:05 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ACTION: debra Dahl to review emotion Markup -
- 17:04:08 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 17:04:10 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 17:04:10 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/23-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
- 17:04:33 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, please part
- 17:04:33 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Lisa_Seeman, neil, JohnRochford, Michael_Cooper, Kinshuk, +44.289.442.aabb, Tony_Doran, Debbie_Dahl, +1.512.445.aacc, +1.512.445.aadd,
- 17:04:33 [Zakim]
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- 17:04:34 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, please part
- 17:04:34 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/23-coga-actions.rdf :
- 17:04:34 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: debra Dahl to review emotion Markup - [1]
- 17:04:34 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/23-coga-irc#T17-03-05
- 17:04:36 [Zakim]
- ... Joseph_O´Conno, Susann_Keohane, Tim_Boland