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<trackbot> Date: 08 May 2014
<slightlyoff> I can't make today's standup
<slightlyoff> I've got an overlapping meeting which I'm supposed to be running = \
<slightlyoff> sincerest apologies
<slightlyoff> my status is predictable, though: this is my first day back from a week out of commission due to a health issue.
<slightlyoff> not much change
<slightlyoff> been better, been worse. Working from home
<slightlyoff> off the pain meds entirely, so I think I'm pretty close to "back"
<slightlyoff> thanks for asking = )
trackbot, start telcon
<trackbot> Meeting: Technical Architecture Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 08 May 2014
<dka> Example of capability URLs “gone bad”: http://classic.slashdot.org/story/14/05/07/009248 (story about private files on dropbox leaking due to people accidentally sharing the URLs)
<plinss> trackbot, prepare telcon
<trackbot> Meeting: Technical Architecture Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 08 May 2014
<Domenic_> JeniT: I think if you look at the full minutes it will be better.
<scribe> ScribeNick: JeniT
<scribe> Scribe: Jeni Tennison
plinss: we need to give feedback on AppLinks
Domenic_: I briefly read the articles and took a look, but I’m not sure how it applies to the web
plinss: it seems like the opposite of web intents
… diverting web content into native apps
Domenic_: my opinion is that this is a sign that the web is failing
… and our policy should be to fix the web
<plinss> http://applinks.org/documentation/
Domenic_: I don’t know what kind of feedback they want
<dka> Right - links that invoke native apps…
plinss: I think they want more high-level design policy feedback
Domenic_: it’s reasonable for companies to encourage this because it gives best user experience right now
… from a policy perspective, we should fix the web and this shouldn’t be necessary for a good user experience
dka: realistically, there’s often a need to invoke a application
… whether it’s a web application or a native application is irrelevant
… and to link to a specific view, eg a specific tweet or specific restaurant in OpenTable
… deep linking to that content
… the way that works right now is very platform specific
… even if we imagine a world where all apps are web apps running as first-class citizens
… we’ll still need that functionality
… the question is whether the web already has what we need for that
Domenic_: my ideal would be to link to a tweet on the web
… and if in the interim you want to redirect to the twitter native app
… you shouldn’t need different syntax
+1
… it should be intercepted by the OS and link to the app
… the examples aren’t clear
… they’ve clearly worked on this problem technically, and know what’s necessary for the user experience they want
… maybe we should ask about whether it’s possible to make links to existing websites the alternative
dka: it’s becoming a middle man between all these things linking to each other
… and the point of the web is you don’t need a middle man
Domenic_: sure, if the app doesn’t exist on the web you need something different, but pretty much all these apps are on the web, the links should exist
strong +1 from me
dka: someone should write that up and send that to them; I’d be happy to
Domenic_: it would be great if you could do an initial draft, I’d be interested in being involved
JeniT: I’d be happy to review & contribute to that too
<twirl> +1
dka: I’d like to get Dom involved in that conversation as well
… he’s done a lot of thinking about this
<dka> ACTION: Dan to draft an initial feedback on applinks [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/05/08-tagmem-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-866 - Draft an initial feedback on applinks [on Daniel Appelquist - due 2014-05-15].
twirl: I’m doing work on web animations & eme resolution, nothing new
JeniT: we need to take forward or pass on the packaging work
<dka> Feedback Sergey still needs: https://github.com/w3ctag/spec-reviews/pull/27 , https://gist.github.com/twirl/9483deeb93d134ad2aa8
… there’s the draft spec, a couple of issues that need some attention, but it needs to be passed on
plinss: we talked about doing some work to give the TAG the ability to do this work
dka: I sent an initial email, I haven’t had a reply, I need to follow up
plinss: I imagine it won’t be quick, so we probably shouldn’t wait
… I don’t know who to
JeniT: I think the thinking was either WebApps or SysApps
<dka> +1 on not blocking
JeniT: I don’t think there’s any technical work that’s being blocked: it needs to be published as a Working Draft for input
… and I’d rather hand over earlier in the process than later, to enhance engagement
plinss: I’ll reach out to the chairs of WebApps & SysApps & see what they say
dka: nothing has happened about the URL spec since our F2F
JeniT: I think dka was going to do a blog post about capability URLs
dka: oh yes, I’ll draft something
JeniT: I also have to email TAG about integrity URLs
Domenic_: I’ve continued on WebCrypto review and I need to write it up
… the editor is aware but for reference I should write it
… also I gave a talk about what the web needs to do to compete with native
dka: I sorted out the minutes from the F2F
Domenic_: could you blog about that?
dka: I should do, yes
Domenic_: at least topics that were discussed (I know it takes time)
plinss: we still need to make a resolution for twirl about web animations
Domenic_: I *will* look at it this week
… on EME I’m not sure I’m the right person
plinss: yeah, we need feedback from a few other people on that
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