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16:58:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
16:58:41 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
16:58:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Revising W3C Process Community Group Teleconference
16:58:42 <trackbot> Date: 28 April 2014
16:58:56 <Ralph> me zakim, this will be chap7
16:59:04 <Ralph> s/me zakim, this will be chap7//
16:59:56 <Zakim> Team_JEFF(CHAP7)1:00PM has now started
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17:01:59 <Ralph> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2014Apr/0042.html
17:02:03 <Ralph> chair: SteveZ
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17:06:07 <Zakim> + +1.971.998.aaaa
17:06:16 <SteveZ> zakim, who is on the phone?
17:06:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ralph, Jeff, SteveZ, +1.971.998.aaaa
17:06:41 <Ralph> zakim, aaaa is WayneCarr
17:06:41 <Zakim> +WayneCarr; got it
17:08:50 <Ralph> Topic: Transition Call
17:09:06 <Ralph> SteveZ: with whom should we have the [Director's] Transition Call?
17:09:21 <Ralph> Jeff: Tim may want to take the call himself
17:10:04 <Ralph> ... otherwise Philippe Le Hegaret often takes the calls for the Director
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17:11:51 <Ralph> Ralph: do we know which of the issues Chaals said he would raise in response to Liam's comments Chaals considers important before going to AC Review?
17:12:02 <Ralph> SteveZ: from his comments I think there are two:
17:12:10 <Ralph> issue-96?
17:12:10 <trackbot> issue-96 -- Should there be clear requirements on maintaining errata? -- raised
17:12:10 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/w3process/track/issues/96
17:12:39 <Ralph> [not 96]
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17:14:18 <jeff> q+
17:14:21 <Ralph> SteveZ: Chaals' comment on 96 says it doesn't need to be fixed this time
17:14:41 <Ralph> issue-95?
17:14:41 <trackbot> issue-95 -- Clarify the process of moving from REC to edited REC -- raised
17:14:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/w3process/track/issues/95
17:15:01 <Ralph> SteveZ: I don't believe a flow diagram is added
17:15:35 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2014Apr/0039.html "New Editor's draft of Process" [Chaals 24-Apr]
17:16:38 <jeff> Jeff: It seems that we have enough to go forward for AC review
17:16:50 <jeff> Steve: Chaals did address the most important of Liam's comments
17:16:51 <jeff> ack je
17:17:32 <jeff> ack ra
17:18:54 <Ralph> Ralph: Chaals says he would like to resolve issue-95 but I would agree to proceed with that issue remaining open
17:19:26 <wcarr> q+
17:19:28 <jeff> action: on Jeff, to figure out whether we need a transition call; if so - when and with whom
17:19:28 <trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/community/w3process/track/users>.
17:19:38 <Ralph> -> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/AB/raw-file/default/cover.html Editor's LAST CALL DRAFT Proposed World Wide Web Consortium Process Document
17:19:56 <Ralph> action: Jeff figure out whether we need a transition call; if so - when and with whom
17:19:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-31 - Figure out whether we need a transition call; if so - when and with whom [on Jeff Jaffe - due 2014-05-05].
17:20:02 <jeff> Action: Jeff, to figure out whether we need a transition call; if so - when and with whom
17:20:02 <trackbot> Error finding 'Jeff,'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/community/w3process/track/users>.
17:22:03 <Ralph> Wayne: Chaals can fix editorial things after the Group resolves to proceed
17:22:32 <Ralph> SteveZ: I propose to set next Monday as the deadline for any final document
17:22:38 <Ralph> ... then we'd start AC Review
17:22:50 <Ralph> ... the intent is to have AC Review remain open through the June AC meeting
17:23:26 <Ralph> ... for a minimum review period of 4 weeks we could still start the review as late as early May
17:24:35 <Ralph> ... could we start the AC review on Tuesday ?
17:28:22 <jeff> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/processdoc.html#GAProcess
17:30:03 <Ralph> Jeff: 12 Process Evolution says "similar", not "identical"
17:30:10 <Ralph> ... do we strictly need a Director's Call ?
17:30:41 <Ralph> SteveZ: I believe the intent at the time that was written was that all the steps should be followed, including the Director's Call
17:30:50 <Ralph> ... I will send a transition request to the chairs list
17:34:44 <Ralph> ... and separately send email to Chaals suggesting that other changes either be postponed to a future revision or that draft changes be sent this week
17:35:08 <Ralph> ... Jeff will check with Tim to see if he wants a Director's Call
17:35:41 <Ralph> issue-94?
17:35:41 <trackbot> issue-94 -- Who should be informed when a transition is declined, and of what? -- raised
17:35:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/w3process/track/issues/94
17:36:01 <Ralph> SteveZ: Ian noted that there had never been a declined transition request
17:39:15 <Ralph> Ralph: I understood that Liam's point in issue-94 was that the reason for declining a transition must also be shared.  I don't consider this critical as the Director always gives his reasons
17:39:21 <Zakim> -Jeff
17:39:22 <Zakim> -WayneCarr
17:39:29 <Zakim> -SteveZ
17:39:29 <Ralph> Jeff: accolades to the chair
17:39:31 <Ralph> [adjourned]
17:39:33 <Zakim> -Ralph
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17:39:39 <Zakim> Attendees were Ralph, Jeff, SteveZ, +1.971.998.aaaa, WayneCarr
17:39:48 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
17:39:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/28-w3process-minutes.html Ralph
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