IRC log of aria on 2014-04-07

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Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(ARIA)1:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 07 April 2014
16:56:07 [MichaelC]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Apr/0048.html
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WAI_PFWG(ARIA)1:00PM has now started
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+??P13
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zakim, ??P13 is Michael_Cooper
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+Michael_Cooper; got it
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+??P0
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zakim, ??P0 is Janina
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+Janina; got it
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+Bryan_Garaventa
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+James_Nurthen
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+[Apple]
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zakim, Apple is James_Craig
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+James_Craig; got it
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zakim, who is on the call?
17:03:27 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Michael_Cooper, Janina, Bryan_Garaventa, James_Nurthen, James_Craig
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+Joanie_Diggs
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+[GVoice]
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zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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+Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
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zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:05:45 [jcraig]
Zakim, who is on the phone?
17:05:45 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Michael_Cooper, Janina, Bryan_Garaventa, James_Nurthen, James_Craig, Joanie_Diggs, Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:05:58 [jcraig]
Zakim, James_Craig is Apple
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+Apple; got it
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+Matt_King
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Zakim, Apple is [Apple]
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+[Apple]; got it
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Zakim, Apple has jcraig
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+jcraig; got it
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Apr/0048.html
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scribe: jcraig
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TOPIC: UAIG Status
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MC: No major news. Forming a Joing TF with @@@ Working Group.
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s/@@@/SVG/
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q+ to ask if there is an editors' meeting this coming Wed
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s/Joing/Joint
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JS: Negotiating details with the two groups.
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ack j
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Joseph_Scheuhammer, you wanted to ask if there is an editors' meeting this coming Wed
17:08:42 [jcraig]
MC: Standing agenda item. More to report next week.
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+[SAP]
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zakim, SAP is Stefan_Schnabel
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+Stefan_Schnabel; got it
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MC: Covers details about editor's meeting: Every other week 30 minutes at 10AM Pactific
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+Cynthia_Shelly
17:13:04 [MichaelC]
topic: Issue 523 (searchbox/searchfield role) https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/523
17:13:17 [jcraig]
issue-523?
17:13:17 [trackbot]
issue-523 -- searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/523
17:15:43 [MichaelC]
close issue-523
17:15:43 [trackbot]
Closed issue-523.
17:16:25 [MichaelC]
topic: Issue 590 Caption Role: Do we need a label role or do we do something
17:16:25 [MichaelC]
different? https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/590
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related ACTION-1342 to ISSUE-523
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http://www.w3.org/2014/03/31-aria-minutes.html
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JC: not an easy topic, pros and cons to all options
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ack c
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JC: suggest tabling for now. Rich and Steve are not here to discuss
17:22:16 [jcraig]
CS: Would like @aria-labelfor and a label role for ease of reading.
17:22:50 [MichaelC]
scribe: MichaelC
17:22:57 [MichaelC]
JC: issues with generic label element
17:23:17 [MichaelC]
if we had a label role on a heading
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might override heading role
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so basically, couldn´t have an element with its own role also a label
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MK: that´s why this is a big concern for me with labels
17:24:09 [MichaelC]
with landmarks can just wrap them
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but that´s more awkward with label
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how does AT expose?
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JC: don´t confuse AT with AAPI
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q+
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MK: not that, but multiple roles
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JC: one pro to label role is a validation tool could flag an unreferenced label
17:26:40 [jcraig]
MC: what if there are a lable role that existed, but was not required, as in, role="
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scribe: jcraig
17:27:03 [jcraig]
s/role="/role="heading label"/
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MC: iow, labels don't have to use role="label"
17:28:31 [jcraig]
MC: back to issue at hand. caption elements could be given label role if no better role used
17:29:15 [MichaelC]
Straw poll: who would like a label role of some sort?
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MC: still have question of whether in absense of labelledby relationship, whether it labels its parent element
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+1
17:29:32 [joanie]
+1
17:29:35 [mattking]
+1
17:29:53 [jcraig]
± 1 ;-()
17:30:03 [MichaelC]
Converse question: who thinks a label role is more trouble than it´s worth?
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-1
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-1
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0 (sitting on the fence)
17:30:27 [mattking]
Depends on restrictions or limitations
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q+
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ack me
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ack j
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I read modest support in favour of label role
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JD: like explicit roles
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JC: there´s a label role in ATK?
17:32:52 [MichaelC]
JD: yes
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JC: is it generic?
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s/ATK/GTK/
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JD: in GTK, static text and labels still have role of label
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MK: is there always a relationship attribute?
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JD: an object with role label has a pointer to what it applies to
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MC: like label for?
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JC: clarifies that ATK handles this better than GTK
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-Joseph_Scheuhammer
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+[GVoice]
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zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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+Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
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zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
17:36:52 [jcraig]
JD: label relationship is author explicit, but may be achieved in a variety of ways
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<span arai-labelfor=...?
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MC: Might need to require reverse relationship aria-labelfor from label role to element?
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<span role="label" aria-labelfor="…" ?
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MK: what about having labelfor but not label role
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CS: MS devs wanted to find all labels in document
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q+
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CS: Would allow them to enforce coding standard on their own projects
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ack j
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MK: potentially you could have role=label, aria-labeledfor, or something referenced by aria-labelledby
17:40:51 [MichaelC]
JC: big issue here is it adds complexity to the processing rules
17:40:58 [MichaelC]
in good world, it´s simple
17:41:10 [MichaelC]
but what if there´s some circularity in authoring of these pieces
17:41:26 [jamesn]
q+ to say that even if we have role=label is should never be an error if that label isn't actually being used
17:41:29 [MichaelC]
so these proposals have benefits but risks
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MC: maybe we don´t want all of these options, just pick one
17:42:37 [MichaelC]
MK: yes
17:43:01 [MichaelC]
maybe try to look at UAIG from this perspective, and come back with proposal
17:43:47 [MichaelC]
JC: there are differences in the name calculation alogrithm between spec and UAIG
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MC: only non-normative example
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JS: a couple examples are different
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@@
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ACTION: pull text computation section into ReSpec include for both Spec and UAIG
17:44:39 [trackbot]
Error finding 'pull'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
17:44:44 [jamesn]
ack me
17:44:44 [Zakim]
jamesn, you wanted to say that even if we have role=label is should never be an error if that label isn't actually being used
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ack jamesn
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ACTION: jcraig to pull text computation section into ReSpec include for both Spec and UAIG
17:44:53 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1421 - Pull text computation section into respec include for both spec and uaig [on James Craig - due 2014-04-14].
17:45:06 [MichaelC]
JN: if we do adopt role=label, shouldn´t be required that authors use it
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s/@@/As it stands, aria-label and aria-labelledby are used to create a "name" property for an accessible. They do not create an accessible of their own/
17:45:37 [MichaelC]
and not an error to use label without reference
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jc: why the latter part?
17:45:56 [MichaelC]
jn: dynamic updates is one use case
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hard to update these references during update
17:46:55 [MichaelC]
jc: could it be a warning, not an error?
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jn: people read warnings as errors
17:47:21 [MichaelC]
what extra benefit?
17:47:38 [MichaelC]
jc: there´s a meaningful difference in ATK between static text, and static text that is a label
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would want to ensure correct use
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q+
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jn: already hard for developers to label
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introducing more possibilities makes it harder
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mk: an error to have label for reference nonexistent?
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jc, jn: sometimes in evaluators
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MC: also discussing if label role labels its parent
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q?
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q?
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MC: could have undesirable effects
17:50:03 [MichaelC]
ack me
17:50:08 [joanie]
q+ To say it's undesirable
17:50:21 [MichaelC]
q+ to point out the caption example means still putting in a pointer
17:50:40 [mattking]
q+ about defalt mappings for caption and figcaption
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q?
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jc: think it´s undesirable, it adds more automatic calculation of the a11y tree
17:51:18 [MichaelC]
which isn´t impossible, but it´s another thing
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for instance, table element mapped to table role only if heuristically determined to be a data table
17:51:56 [mattking]
q+ to ask about mappings
17:52:10 [MichaelC]
having spec touch this gets complex, best left to implementations
17:52:41 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-minutes.html MichaelC
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ack next
17:52:56 [Zakim]
joanie, you wanted to say it's undesirable
17:53:18 [MichaelC]
issue-590: https://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-minutes.html#item03
17:53:18 [trackbot]
Notes added to issue-590 add caption role.
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ack next
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MichaelC, you wanted to point out the caption example means still putting in a pointer
17:53:54 [jcraig]
JD: want to be able to expose unreferenced label text as static text, not label
17:54:18 [jcraig]
JD: This would disallow this and force us to expose a potentially incorrect relationship'
17:54:25 [joanie]
q+ to Make a clarification about what Michael just said
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ack mattk
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mattking, you wanted to ask about mappings
17:54:57 [MichaelC]
MC: label not labeling its parent sounds desirable from what I hear
17:55:05 [MichaelC]
but doens´t address the caption thing
17:55:07 [MichaelC]
you could give caption role=label but still have to have a labeling reference
17:55:07 [jcraig]
question on next topic: for caption and figcaption. same in html5?
17:55:15 [MichaelC]
not much of a gain from that perspective
17:55:45 [jcraig]
s/question on next topic: for caption and figcaption. same in html5?/MK: question on next topic: for caption and figcaption. same in html5?/
17:55:50 [MichaelC]
q+ to straw poll
17:56:14 [jcraig]
MK: if you map caption to aria-label, is that problematic?
17:58:24 [jcraig]
MK: If we have role="label" in ARIA 1.1, and we don't have @aria-labelfor
17:59:03 [MichaelC]
ack next
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joanie, you wanted to Make a clarification about what Michael just said
17:59:08 [jcraig]
MK: caption role would be unambiguous on table
17:59:38 [jcraig]
JC: Q+ to clarify Matt's comment that indicates we'd want to create role that is specific to html:table
17:59:58 [jcraig]
q+ to clarify Matt's comment that indicates we'd want to create role that is specific to html:table
17:59:59 [MichaelC]
Straw poll: Support for label role labeling its parent?
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-1
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-1
18:00:02 [mattking]
1-
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-1
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-1
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+1 only if the user agent makes the connection to the parent.
18:02:09 [joanie]
clown: that is the very thing I'm asking not be done
18:02:31 [MichaelC]
Strong opposition to this proposal
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Straw poll: Support for aria-labelledfor type attribute?
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+1
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+0.5
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+0.25
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+.5
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+1 to aria-labelfor (-1 to aria-labelledfor)
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cyns: explore
18:03:47 [MichaelC]
Moderate support, need to explore more
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Straw poll: Support doing both label role and aria-labelledfor?
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s/aria-labelled-for/aria-labelfor/G
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s/aria-labelledfor/aria-labelfor/G
18:05:39 [mattking]
++1
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+1
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+1
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+1
18:05:54 [jamesn]
0
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+0.75
18:06:00 [MichaelC]
(Clarification: +1 = support doing both, -1 = do only one of them)
18:06:28 [MichaelC]
Reasonably strong support for doing both
18:06:43 [jcraig]
ack me
18:06:43 [Zakim]
jcraig, you wanted to clarify Matt's comment that indicates we'd want to create role that is specific to html:table
18:07:48 [MichaelC]
jc: point out that the proposal on the table for a caption role would apply both to table caption and figcaption
18:07:54 [MichaelC]
mk: so applies to more than one kind of parent?
18:07:55 [MichaelC]
jc: yes
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mk: so complexity in defining where it can be used
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jc: also proposed for a summary element in a description
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if we do mint a role only for table, the genericness of ARIA isn´t supported
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mk: so as it stands, you need an ARIA labeling pointer on the caption
18:09:31 [MichaelC]
jc: not if using <caption> in HTML
18:09:40 [MichaelC]
host language defines the label arc
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but ARIA is more host language independent
18:10:07 [MichaelC]
we could say <caption> has implicit ARIA semantic of label
18:12:06 [MichaelC]
jc: also there is an action to add a computedRole property
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that explicates what the ARIA role worked out to be
18:12:41 [MichaelC]
so for a <table> <caption> that could return a ¨label¨ role because of the implicit ARIA semantics
18:13:35 [jcraig]
HTMLFigCaptionElement.computedRole() could return "label" which would go further to providing 1:1 role mapping to host langs
18:14:22 [MichaelC]
Straw poll: Support for a dedicated caption role that labels its parent table?
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-1
18:14:30 [mattking]
-1
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+0
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+.5
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-1
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-1
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JS: note @@ both have caption and label roles
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s/@@/ATK/
18:15:50 [MichaelC]
JD: maybe can address in mapping, by saying if it´s in a table map one way, otherwise the other
18:16:17 [MichaelC]
Fairly strong anti-support for that straw poll
18:18:09 [clown]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/roles#namecalculation
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UAIG version: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation-1.1/#mapping_additional_nd_te
18:18:48 [jcraig]
Need to consider role(label) and @aria-labelfor in context of @aria-labelledby and name computation algorithm
18:24:18 [MichaelC]
action: king to develop proposal for label role and aria-labelfor property
18:24:18 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1422 - Develop proposal for label role and aria-labelfor property [on Matthew King - due 2014-04-14].
18:24:31 [MichaelC]
trackbot, associate action-1422 with issue-590
18:24:31 [trackbot]
action-1422 (Develop proposal for label role and aria-labelfor property) associated with issue-590.
18:25:13 [clown]
action-638?
18:25:13 [trackbot]
action-638 -- Gregory Rosmaita to - compose simple examples for aria-owns and aria-controls based upon prose examples in definitions - 2010-04-30 -- due 2010-05-03 -- CLOSED
18:25:13 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/638
18:25:24 [clown]
action-538?
18:25:25 [trackbot]
action-538 -- Michael Cooper to Create candidate HTML Bugzilla entries from PF comments for PF consideration -- due 2009-11-11 -- CLOSED
18:25:25 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/538
18:25:51 [MichaelC]
topic: Issue 638 Generic Container Role https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/638
18:26:31 [MichaelC]
jc: proposal for a ¨generic¨ role for div/span, but also for tables determined to be layout
18:26:35 [MichaelC]
instead of role=¨presentation¨
18:28:07 [MichaelC]
mk: danger having everything exposed
18:30:29 [MichaelC]
mc: we´ll pick this topic up as a big one for next week
18:30:42 [jcraig]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-minutes.html jcraig
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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rrsagent, make log public
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-[Apple]
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-Stefan_Schnabel
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Zakim, please part
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were Michael_Cooper, Janina, Bryan_Garaventa, James_Nurthen, Joanie_Diggs, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Matt_King, jcraig, Stefan_Schnabel,
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Present: Michael_Cooper, Janina, Bryan_Garaventa, James_Nurthen, Joanie_Diggs, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Matt_King, James_Craig, Stefan_Schnabel, Cynthia_Shelly
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Chair: Michael_Cooper
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s/(-1 to aria-labelfor)/(-1 to aria-labelledfor)/
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janina_ has changed the topic to: ARIA Teleconference; Monday 14 April at 17:00Z for 90 minutes; Zakim 92473#
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Regrets: Richard_Schwerdtfeger
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s/Q+ to clarify Matt's comment that indicates we'd want to create role that is specific to html:table/scribeNick: MichaelC/
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-minutes.html jcraig
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s/JC: scribe: MichaelC/scribe: MichaelC/
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-minutes.html jcraig
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s/MS devs wanted to find all labels in document/MS devs wanted to find all labels in document. Would allow them to enforce coding standard on their own projects/
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s/Would allow them to enforce coding standard on their own projects/scribe: MichaelC/
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-minutes.html jcraig
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s/CS: scribe: MichaelC/scribe: MichaelC/
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-minutes.html jcraig
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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: pull text computation section into ReSpec include for both Spec and UAIG [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-irc#T17-44-39
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ACTION: jcraig to pull text computation section into ReSpec include for both Spec and UAIG [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-irc#T17-44-53
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ACTION: king to develop proposal for label role and aria-labelfor property [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-aria-irc#T18-24-18