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14:55:05 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:55:06 Date: 31 March 2014
14:55:28 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Media Sub-Group
14:55:37 Chair: Mark Sadecki
14:55:46 agenda+ Identify Scribe
14:55:46 agenda+ Introductions
14:55:46 agenda+ Identify Priorities and Work Items
14:55:46 agenda+ Media Accessibility User Requirements [4]
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15:03:34 zakim, ??P2 is me
15:03:34 +janina; got it
15:07:23 agenda+ meeting frequency
15:07:49 zakim, take up next item
15:07:49 agendum 1. "Identify Scribe" taken up [from MarkS]
15:08:08 scribe: aardrian
15:08:38 zakim, take up next item
15:08:38 agendum 1 was just opened, MarkS
15:08:43 zakim, close item 1
15:08:43 agendum 1, Identify Scribe, closed
15:08:44 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:08:44 2. Introductions [from MarkS]
15:08:46 zakim, take up next item
15:08:46 agendum 2. "Introductions" taken up [from MarkS]
15:09:51 JS: Been part of media sub-team since about 2010. Originally defined as captions only.
15:10:48 MS: New to the team. Main interest is finishing user requiremts doc and circulating it,
15:11:08 MS: Also building demos to show capabilities of HTML5 and test support, along with documentation.
15:12:01 AR: I've been on the TF for about a year. I'm here because I have an interest in media. Not sure how much I will bring to the group, but am willing to be a fly on the wall
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15:13:13 zakim, next item
15:13:13 agendum 3 was just opened, aardrian
15:14:26 JS: I think user requirements is a priority, it has stalled.
15:14:41 -> http://www.w3.org/TR/media-accessibility-reqs/ Media Accessibility User Requirements
15:15:04 JS: Stalled in two places.1. Stalled in TF which took up publishing it.
15:15:40 JS: Did publish as note track document, request for comments, took about 3 years to process the comments.
15:16:03 JS: Processed all the comments except 1 or 2. PF needs to be reminded to finish.
15:16:38 JS: After that stage, probably need to publish another draft.
15:17:06 2. Second group holding up requirements document: EO
15:17:32 MS: This is the checklist?
15:17:40 JS: No, descriptions of various disabilities.
15:17:48 MS: Nope, it's the checklist.
15:18:14 JS: Yes, EO (Education & Outreach, a WAI working group) needs to get busy on that section.
15:18:39 JS: Judy had concerns with that section and needs to address it.
15:18:51 MS: Should one member from this group be an editor on that document?
15:19:11 JS: Yes, will be happy to ask Michael to add you.
15:19:40 JS: Mark, we are naming you to other documents as well.
15:20:10 JS: Those are the two things holding up user requirements.
15:20:24 JS: I think some sections could be done better...
15:20:47 JS: For example, directing output of alternate track to alternates, such as headphones.
15:21:05 JS: Achievable. Allows one person in a class to hear audio, but not whole class.
15:21:21 JS: Similarly, may want to send captions to only some displays.
15:21:35 JS: The idea of only one display or speaker is bogus.
15:22:06 JS: So where you send each piece should be independently identifiable.
15:22:12 MS: As in "second screen?"
15:22:14 JS: Yes.
15:22:40 JS: This isn't the only group with that requirement.
15:23:00 MS: Any pointers to comments or work done in Shenzhen?
15:23:15 JS: Yes, probably on xtech or PF minutes from Shenzhen, with pointers.
15:23:37 JS: The other group can be found in the HTML Admin mailing list from last year.
15:23:57 MS: Is that a public list?
15:24:01 JS: Yes.
15:24:27 s/that/xtech/
15:24:58 rrsagent, make minutes
15:24:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/31-html-a11y-minutes.html aardrian
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15:27:17 ACTION: markS to locate comments and processing notes from Shenzhen
15:27:17 Created ACTION-237 - Locate comments and processing notes from shenzhen [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-04-07].
15:27:29 rrsagent, make minutes
15:27:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/31-html-a11y-minutes.html aardrian
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15:28:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/31-html-a11y-minutes.html aardrian
15:30:04 MS: We have some bugs as well, which may be a priority for 5.0.
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15:30:19 MS: The issue of transcript. Thought we might clean it up, add to 5.1?
15:30:31 JS: Yes, not a 5.0 issue anymore.
15:33:19 JS: I owe the group a one-page concept paper describing the kinds of media content we need.
15:33:37 JS: in order for developers to build tools and tests.
15:33:59 MS: You mention testing, should we look at web platform testing effort to see if media tests are robust enough.
15:34:21 MS: Noticed the onQueue event handler for track elements is not supported by anyone but IE.
15:34:31 JS: I agree, I'd hate to lose that one. That's a priority.
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