IRC log of forms on 2014-03-12
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- Zakim, this will be IA_XForms
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- ok, trackbot; I see IA_XForms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
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- Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 March 2014
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0014
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- Steven_ has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0014
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- Regrets: Uli, Philip
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- Chair: Steven
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- IA_XForms()11:00AM has now started
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- +??P18
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- zakim, I am ?
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- +Steven_; got it
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- +ebruchez
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- Zakim, I am [ipcaller]
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- ok, alain, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
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- Topic: Announcements etc
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- Debriefing from XML Prague? [Alain?]
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- Steven: How was it?
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- Alain: Interesting for XForms
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- ... many cites of XForms
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- ... about HTML5, instead of using XForms namespace, we could could use xforms- for elements i.s.o namespace
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- ... a new XSLT2 engine for browsers, compared with XFOrms
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- .... Erik vd V about testing platform
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- ... formula EMC still being developed, and added to platform
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- ... and XProc, using XForms
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- Steven: 'xformsunit' was the testing platform?
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- Alain: How to run tests automatically, testing XForms implementations
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- Steven: http://xformsunit.org/
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- Alain: All talks are on Youtube, so you can see everything
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- Steven: http://www.youtube.com/user/XMLPrague
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- Topic: Daylight Savings
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- Reminder about today and next two weeks.
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- Steven: For another two weeks, Europe is an hour earlier
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- Topic: Extending the standard controls
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2014Mar/0002.html
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- Eric: Nothing to add here.
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- Topic: @label (etc)
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0008.html
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- Steven: We agreed to do it, didn't make a resolution and then it got forgotten.
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- ... what should we do?
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- Eric: It should be easy.
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- Alain: Agree.
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- Resolution: We will add the @label alternative agreed on earlier.
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- ACTION: Steven to implement @label spec text
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- Created ACTION-1967 - Implement @label spec text [on Steven Pemberton - due 2014-03-19].
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- Steven: I think for <item> that the <value> element is a string value, and @value is an expression
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- <item label="New York">NY</item>
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- <option value="NY">New York</option>
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- Eric: I'm not sure which I want
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- <item label="New York" value="..."/>
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- s/Eric/Erik/g
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- Steven: Since it is <option> in HTML and <item> in XFOrms, I don't think we have to worry about the loss of consistency there too much
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- s/XFO/XFo/
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- Steven: I think @value consistency across all elements in XForms is more important
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- <item label="New York" value="ny"/>
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- Erik: I think that is OK. There is always the risk that someone will write {above}, but that won;t work anyway.
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- s/;/
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- Erik: There is no easy way to avoid that.
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- Steven: So we shall resolve that @value is always an expression?
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- RESOLVED: @value is an expression whereever it is used
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- Topic: ACTION-1966 - Check editorial note about untypedatomic in 4.3
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- [search XPath specs]
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0011.html
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- Steven: Nothing to do then, right?
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- Erik: Not an easy topic, those specs are huge, and the intent is not always clear, but I think we're covered.
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- Topic: Removed Datatypes section from XPath Expressions module
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0012.html
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- Erik: Now we have done what was in the note, the section can go.
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- ... all datatypes are in the main spec anyway.
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- Topic: AOB:
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- Erik: Is there an action item for @labels
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- Steven: Yes, to me
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- Attendees were Steven_, ebruchez, [IPcaller]
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