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14:49:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
14:49:30 <trackbot> Date: 12 March 2014
14:49:53 <Steven_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0014
14:50:00 <Steven_> Steven_ has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0014
14:50:27 <Steven_>   Regrets: Uli, Philip
14:50:27 <Steven_>     Chair: Steven
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15:03:07 <Zakim> +??P18
15:03:09 <Steven_> zakim, I am ?
15:03:09 <Zakim> +Steven_; got it
15:03:36 <Zakim> +ebruchez
15:03:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:03:55 <alain> Zakim, I am [ipcaller]
15:03:55 <Zakim> ok, alain, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
15:05:29 <Steven_> Topic: Announcements etc
15:05:29 <Steven_> Debriefing from XML Prague? [Alain?]
15:05:49 <Steven_> Steven: How was it?
15:05:59 <Steven_> Alain: Interesting for XForms
15:06:07 <Steven_> ... many cites of XForms
15:06:35 <Steven_> ... about HTML5, instead of using XForms namespace, we could could use xforms- for elements i.s.o namespace
15:06:51 <Steven_> ... a new XSLT2 engine for browsers, compared with XFOrms
15:07:02 <Steven_> .... Erik vd V about testing platform
15:07:19 <Steven_> ... formula EMC still being developed, and added to platform
15:07:28 <Steven_> ... and XProc, using XForms
15:07:53 <Steven_> Steven: 'xformsunit' was the testing platform?
15:08:23 <Steven_> Alain: How to run tests automatically, testing XForms implementations
15:08:44 <Steven_> Steven: http://xformsunit.org/
15:09:18 <Steven_> Alain: All talks are on Youtube, so you can see everything
15:09:48 <Steven_> Steven: http://www.youtube.com/user/XMLPrague
15:10:01 <Steven_> Topic: Daylight Savings
15:10:01 <Steven_> Reminder about today and next two weeks.
15:10:20 <Steven_> Steven: For another two weeks, Europe is an hour earlier
15:10:30 <Steven_> Topic: Extending the standard controls
15:10:30 <Steven_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2014Mar/0002.html
15:11:16 <Steven_> Eric: Nothing to add here.
15:11:36 <Steven_> Topic: @label (etc)
15:11:36 <Steven_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0008.html
15:12:06 <Steven_> Steven: We agreed to do it, didn't make a resolution and then it got forgotten.
15:12:31 <Steven_> ... what should we do?
15:13:58 <Steven_> Eric: It should be easy.
15:14:16 <Steven_> Alain: Agree.
15:14:53 <Steven_> Resolution: We will add the @label alternative agreed on earlier.
15:15:06 <Steven_> ACTION: Steven to implement @label spec text
15:15:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1967 - Implement @label spec text [on Steven Pemberton - due 2014-03-19].
15:16:03 <Steven_> Steven: I think for <item> that the <value> element is a string value, and @value is an expression
15:16:19 <ebruchez> <item label="New York">NY</item>
15:16:35 <ebruchez>  <option value="NY">New York</option>
15:17:30 <Steven_> Eric: I'm not sure which I want
15:17:39 <ebruchez> <item label="New York" value="..."/>
15:17:51 <Steven_> s/Eric/Erik/g
15:19:48 <Steven_> Steven: Since it is <option> in HTML and <item> in XFOrms, I don't think we have to worry about the loss of consistency there too much
15:19:59 <Steven_> s/XFO/XFo/
15:20:28 <Steven_> Steven: I think @value consistency across all elements in XForms is more important
15:21:09 <ebruchez> <item label="New York" value="ny"/>
15:21:25 <Steven_> Erik: I think that is OK. There is always the risk that someone will write {above}, but that won;t work anyway.
15:21:29 <Steven_> s/;/
15:22:00 <Steven_> Erik: There is no easy way to avoid that.
15:23:15 <Steven_> Steven: So we shall resolve that @value is always an expression?
15:23:40 <Steven_> RESOLVED: @value is an expression whereever it is used
15:23:56 <Steven_> Topic: ACTION-1966 - Check editorial note about untypedatomic in 4.3
15:23:56 <Steven_> [search XPath specs]
15:23:56 <Steven_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0011.html
15:24:43 <Steven_> Steven: Nothing to do then, right?
15:25:06 <Steven_> Erik: Not an easy topic, those specs are huge, and the intent is not always clear, but I think we're covered.
15:25:30 <Steven_> Topic: Removed Datatypes section from XPath Expressions module
15:25:30 <Steven_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0012.html
15:26:15 <Steven_> Erik: Now we have done  what was in the note, the section can go.
15:26:35 <Steven_> ... all datatypes are in the main spec anyway.
15:26:47 <Steven_> Topic: AOB:
15:26:56 <Steven_> Erik: Is there an action item for @labels
15:27:02 <Steven_> Steven: Yes, to me
15:27:15 <Steven_> [ADJOURN]
15:27:19 <Zakim> -ebruchez
15:27:20 <Zakim> -Steven_
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