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15:54:54 Zakim, this will be 2119
15:54:54 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 54 minutes ago
15:54:55 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:54:55 Date: 13 February 2014
15:55:13 agenda?
15:55:18 Meeting: HTML-A11Y Task Force Teleconference
15:55:18 Chair: Janina_Sajka
15:55:18 agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:55:21 agenda+ Longdesc Update [See Below]
15:55:24 agenda+ Canvas 2D Status & Next Steps
15:55:26 agenda+ Alt Guidance & Next Steps [See Below]
15:55:29 agenda+ Bug Triage: Review of Resolved Bugs tracked by TF [see below]
15:55:31 agenda+ Other Business
15:55:34 agenda+ Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
15:55:37 agenda+ be done
15:55:42 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has now started
15:55:49 +??P5
15:55:54 zakim, ??P5 is me
15:55:54 +janina; got it
15:56:02 zakim, take up item 1
15:56:02 agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:58:17 +Mark_Sadecki
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16:02:04 zakim, [ip is me
16:02:04 +chaals; got it
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16:03:22 scribe: MarkS
16:03:36 zakim, who's on the phone?
16:03:36 On the phone I see janina, Mark_Sadecki, Cynthia_Shelly, chaals, Plh, [IPcaller], Judy
16:03:53 +David_MacDonald
16:03:56 zakim, [ip is BillyG
16:03:56 +BillyG; got it
16:04:15 agenda?
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16:04:26 zakim, close item 1
16:04:27 agendum 1, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
16:04:28 I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:04:28 2. Longdesc Update [from See Below via janina]
16:04:31 zakim, take up next item
16:04:31 agendum 2. "Longdesc Update" taken up [from See Below]
16:04:54 MS: Chaals is slcking…
16:05:04 s/slc/slac/
16:05:16 … but we're getting on with it and will continue to update people.
16:05:21 MS: Chaals and I continue to work on items
16:05:25 zakim, take up next item
16:05:25 agendum 2 was just opened, MarkS
16:05:33 zakim, close item 2
16:05:33 agendum 2, Longdesc Update, closed
16:05:34 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:05:34 3. Canvas 2D Status & Next Steps [from janina]
16:05:37 zakim, take up next item
16:05:37 agendum 3. "Canvas 2D Status & Next Steps" taken up [from janina]
16:06:04 MS: We were waiting to hear back from Mozilla about trying out hit regions...
16:06:22 … yesterday they said that they think this approach is actually looking good.
16:06:51 q+
16:06:55 … they have a prototype and expect to show that next week. They do not intend to drop drawFocusAsNeeded. That is good news all around...
16:07:19 s/As/If/
16:07:23 … Unsure about status of Chrome.
16:07:43 +Adrian_Roselli
16:07:53 q?
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16:07:57 ack j
16:08:14 Zakim, who is here?
16:08:14 On the phone I see janina, Mark_Sadecki, Cynthia_Shelly, chaals, Plh, BillyG, Judy, David_MacDonald, Adrian_Roselli
16:08:16 On IRC I see aardrian, Billy_Gregory, Judy, plh, chaals, Zakim, RRSAgent, MarkS, hober, cabanier_, janina, trackbot
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16:08:46 JB: Good to hear. Understand that hit test depends on several things, including perhaps path which is not going to get into the current spec. Would implementation get this into level 1?
16:09:15 MS: Think the spec will require work on hit regions and path, but don't think this is *months*.
16:09:27 … sowe would have to go through some administrative hoops to get this into L1
16:09:41 JB: With implementations, this is a pretty good reason to put it back in…
16:09:56 q?
16:10:02 MS: Asked them to summarise their position in public, haven't seen that yet.
16:10:32 zakim, take up next item
16:10:32 agendum 4. "Alt Guidance & Next Steps" taken up [from See Below]
16:10:59 JS: interested in finding out what the timeframe will be for Hit Regions
16:11:23 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0026.html
16:11:36 JS: SteveF has shared the list of bugs that HTML WG had requested regarding ALT work/changes
16:12:02 ...we have been talking about syncing 5.1 and 5.0 specs
16:12:21 ...Paul had some ideas on how to move forward process wise, but he is not here.
16:12:41 zakim, take up next item
16:12:41 agendum 5. "Bug Triage: Review of Resolved Bugs tracked by TF" taken up [from see below]
16:13:05 -> http://www.w3.org/2014/02/12-a11y-bugs-minutes.html Minutes from Bug Triage
16:13:46 MS: Bringing one bug to the canvas sub team
16:13:46 MS: Bringing one bug to the canvas sub team
16:13:58 ..Reopened a bug against 5.1
16:14:07 ...Closed two
16:14:19 -> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13549 13549 4.10.18 associating form elements with forms that do not contain them can cause navigation problems for AT and keyboard users
16:15:20 CS: This could be addressed with a WCAG failure. but should also bring it against 5.1
16:15:47 JS: Feel like this should cause a validation failure
16:16:05 ...should be a 5.1 issue
16:16:14 CS: If there isn't a WCAG failure, there should be
16:16:45 DM: Please send a note to WCAG
16:17:23 -> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12964 12964