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RDF Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 27 November 2013

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Andy Seaborne, Antoine Zimmermann, Arnaud Le Hors, David Wood, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Fabien Gandon, Gavin Carothers, Gregg Kellogg, Guus Schreiber, Ivan Herman, Patrick Hayes, Peter Patel-Schneider, Ted Thibodeau, Yves Raimond
Chair
Guus Schreiber
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Gavin Carothers
IRC Log
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Resolutions
  1. accept the minutes of the 20 Nov telecon link
  2. The WG approves the test suites for TriG, N-Triples and N-Quads link
Topics
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15:36:38 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:36:38 <trackbot> Date: 27 November 2013
15:45:47 <AndyS> gavinc - I did the reply for ISSUE-172 (covers TTL and TriG).

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Andy Seaborne: gavinc - I did the reply for ISSUE-172 (covers TTL and TriG).

15:45:54 <gavinc> Thanks AndyS

Gavin Carothers: Thanks AndyS

15:46:04 <gavinc> Sorry for seeming to vanish into the night

Gavin Carothers: Sorry for seeming to vanish into the night

15:46:12 <AndyS> Separately, what's your opinion on the ECHAR issue?

Andy Seaborne: Separately, what's your opinion on the ECHAR issue?

15:46:32 <gavinc> Jury Duty + moving platform from hardware to Google Compute

Gavin Carothers: Jury Duty + moving platform from hardware to Google Compute

15:46:58 <gavinc> This is " vs ' yes?

Gavin Carothers: This is " vs ' yes?

15:47:32 <gavinc> and my unclear guidance in N-Triples c14n?

Gavin Carothers: and my unclear guidance in N-Triples c14n?

15:48:10 <gavinc> and the missing \

Gavin Carothers: and the missing \

15:51:27 <AndyS> Aside from the editorial on \ (that's fixed), I noticed the CR texts has ' in the ECHAR for NT and NQ.  "abc\'def" is allowed even though ''-strings aren't

Andy Seaborne: Aside from the editorial on \ (that's fixed), I noticed the CR texts has ' in the ECHAR for NT and NQ. "abc\'def" is allowed even though ''-strings aren't

15:51:42 <AndyS> ''-string == single quoted string.

Andy Seaborne: ''-string == single quoted string.

15:52:28 <gavinc> I think the following: N-Triples should allow \' to stay compatible with the escaping process in Turtle/TriG eg, \' are allowed in '' strings, and c14n N-Triples should continue to say (by accident) to escape them?

Gavin Carothers: I think the following: N-Triples should allow \' to stay compatible with the escaping process in Turtle/TriG eg, \' are allowed in '' strings, and c14n N-Triples should continue to say (by accident) to escape them?

15:52:55 <gavinc> N-Triples c14n is already very much NOT Test Cases N-Triples

Gavin Carothers: N-Triples c14n is already very much NOT Test Cases N-Triples

15:53:14 <AndyS> Works for me - no one seemed to care very much.  I'll do go docs.

Andy Seaborne: Works for me - no one seemed to care very much. I'll do go docs.

15:53:47 <gavinc> I have lost my link to the dbpedia limited Turtle format...

Gavin Carothers: I have lost my link to the dbpedia limited Turtle format...

15:53:48 <gavinc> mmm

Gavin Carothers: mmm

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15:57:47 <Zakim> +pfps

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15:58:38 <Zakim> +GavinC

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15:58:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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15:59:01 <AndyS> zakim, IPcaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPcaller is me

15:59:01 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

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15:59:04 <gavinc> scribe: gavinc

(Scribe set to Gavin Carothers)

15:59:29 <Zakim> +Guus_Schreiber

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15:59:40 <Guus> chair: Guus
16:00:45 <Guus> zakim, who is here?

Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is here?

16:00:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see pfps, GavinC, AndyS, Guus_Schreiber

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16:00:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see pfps, gkellogg, AndyS, Guus, Zakim, RRSAgent, TallTed, ivan, gavinc, ericP, manu, yvesr, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see pfps, gkellogg, AndyS, Guus, Zakim, RRSAgent, TallTed, ivan, gavinc, ericP, manu, yvesr, trackbot

16:00:56 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

16:00:56 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

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16:00:58 <Zakim> +Ivan

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16:01:09 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

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16:01:18 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

16:01:18 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

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16:01:20 <Zakim> +??P18

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18

16:01:22 <Zakim> +??P16

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16:01:28 <gkellogg> zakim, I am ??P16

Gregg Kellogg: zakim, I am ??P16

16:01:29 <Zakim> +gkellogg; got it

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16:01:34 <ivan> zakim, mute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me

16:01:35 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

16:01:37 <yvesr> Zakim, ??P18 is me

Yves Raimond: Zakim, ??P18 is me

16:01:37 <Zakim> +yvesr; got it

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16:01:45 <gavinc> Topic: Admin

1. Admin

16:02:14 <gavinc> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 20 Nov telecon    https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-11-20

PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 20 Nov telecon https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-11-20

16:02:19 <pfps> minutes look fine

Peter Patel-Schneider: minutes look fine

16:02:21 <gavinc> RESOLVED: accept the minutes of the 20 Nov telecon

RESOLVED: accept the minutes of the 20 Nov telecon

16:02:32 <gavinc> subtopic: action items

1.1. action items

16:03:47 <gavinc> subtopic: JSON-LD

1.2. JSON-LD

16:03:56 <ivan> zakim unmute me

Ivan Herman: zakim unmute me

16:03:57 <gavinc> Guus: Votes from AC going well

Guus Schreiber: Votes from AC going well

16:04:01 <ivan> zakim, unmute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, unmute me

16:04:01 <Zakim> Ivan should no longer be muted

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16:04:07 <AndyS> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+

16:04:24 <gavinc> ivan: 18 votes earlier today, all positive.

Ivan Herman: 18 votes earlier today, all positive.

16:04:42 <Zakim> +David_Wood

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16:04:47 <Guus> ack AndyS

Guus Schreiber: ack AndyS

16:05:37 <gavinc> AndyS: Nice that votes are going to the comments list, but worried that commenter trying to ack replies on that mailing list may turn off the mailing list

Andy Seaborne: Nice that votes are going to the comments list, but worried that commenter trying to ack replies on that mailing list may turn off the mailing list

16:05:37 <gavinc> +q

+q

16:05:49 <gavinc> -q

-q

16:05:51 <Zakim> +Arnaud

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16:06:11 <gavinc> ivan: Not sure why all the votes are going to the comments list

Ivan Herman: Not sure why all the votes are going to the comments list

16:06:24 <gavinc> ... but it is done

... but it is done

16:07:05 <gavinc> topic:  CR implementations

2. CR implementations

16:07:39 <gavinc> PROPOSED: The WG approves the test suites for TriG, N-Triples and N-Quads

PROPOSED: The WG approves the test suites for TriG, N-Triples and N-Quads

16:08:39 <gkellogg> +1

Gregg Kellogg: +1

16:08:39 <gavinc> AndyS: We have tests, gkellogg has set them up. Everything is working, we should move them to their official test locations

Andy Seaborne: We have tests, gkellogg has set them up. Everything is working, we should move them to their official test locations

16:08:40 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

16:08:41 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

16:08:41 <gavinc> +1

+1

16:08:45 <pfps> +3

Peter Patel-Schneider: +3

16:08:47 <yvesr> +1

Yves Raimond: +1

16:08:47 <Guus> +1

Guus Schreiber: +1

16:08:48 <Arnaud> +1

Arnaud Le Hors: +1

16:08:51 <davidwood> +1

David Wood: +1

16:08:56 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

16:09:20 <gavinc> RESOLVED: The WG approves the test suites for TriG, N-Triples and N-Quads

RESOLVED: The WG approves the test suites for TriG, N-Triples and N-Quads

16:10:40 <gavinc> gkellogg: the tests will ALSO be in hg

Gregg Kellogg: the tests will ALSO be in hg

16:11:15 <gavinc> Guus: Which W3C team person can place the tests in the official locations?

Guus Schreiber: Which W3C team person can place the tests in the official locations?

16:11:29 <gavinc> AndyS: Are we linking to a specific revision, or are we making a copy?

Andy Seaborne: Are we linking to a specific revision, or are we making a copy?

16:11:40 <gavinc> +1 to linking to a specific revision that's tagged

+1 to linking to a specific revision that's tagged

16:12:40 <gavinc> AndyS: Right now it links to dvcs on the default branch, we can point it to a specific revision

Andy Seaborne: Right now it links to dvcs on the default branch, we can point it to a specific revision

16:12:42 <gavinc> +q

+q

16:12:55 <Guus> ack gavinc

Guus Schreiber: ack gavinc

16:14:15 <Zakim> +karima

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16:14:32 <FabGandon> Zakim, karima is me

Fabien Gandon: Zakim, karima is me

16:14:32 <Zakim> +FabGandon; got it

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16:14:35 <AndyS> ACTION AndyS Mark tests approved and email the list.

Andy Seaborne: ACTION AndyS Mark tests approved and email the list.

16:14:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-328 - Mark tests approved and email the list. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2013-12-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-328 - Mark tests approved and email the list. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2013-12-04].

16:15:48 <gavinc> subaction: Semantics Tests

2.1. Semantics Tests

16:16:06 <gavinc> Guus: ??? has nearly completed an implementation of the semantics tests

Guus Schreiber: Michael Schneider has nearly completed an implementation of the semantics tests

16:16:19 <ivan> s/???/Michael Schneider/
16:16:29 <gavinc> pfps: Sent out announcements, but haven't heard back from them, even acks.

Peter Patel-Schneider: Sent out announcements, but haven't heard back from them, even acks.

16:16:39 <ivan> s/subaction/subtopic/
16:18:33 <gavinc> ivan: Is there somewhere a pointer or description of which are the new tests that are relevant for this round?

Ivan Herman: Is there somewhere a pointer or description of which are the new tests that are relevant for this round?

16:18:47 <gavinc> ... only looking at 1.1 tests, not 1.0

... only looking at 1.1 tests, not 1.0

16:18:58 <gavinc> pfps: Things that haven't changed should just work.

Peter Patel-Schneider: Things that haven't changed should just work.

16:19:28 <gavinc> ivan: Thinking of trying to contact rdflib folks if we know what tests we need to run

Ivan Herman: Thinking of trying to contact rdflib folks if we know what tests we need to run

16:19:52 <gavinc> pfps: ran them with owl reasoner, but they didn't pass. Wasn't too much work to do

Peter Patel-Schneider: ran them with owl reasoner, but they didn't pass. Wasn't too much work to do

16:22:19 <gavinc> ... not sure what we can do to get people to send in responses

... not sure what we can do to get people to send in responses

16:23:04 <gavinc> pfps: at this moment we have 0 results

Peter Patel-Schneider: at this moment we have 0 results

16:23:08 <gavinc> ivan: that's not much

Ivan Herman: that's not much

16:23:14 <gavinc> Guus: One promised

Guus Schreiber: One promised

16:24:57 <gavinc> Guus: Do we just build a reasoner?

Guus Schreiber: Do we just build a reasoner?

16:25:10 <gavinc> pfps: I had hopped it was easy using something from oxford, but it wasn't

Peter Patel-Schneider: I had hopped it was easy using something from oxford, but it wasn't

16:25:53 <gavinc> ivan: If someone has an old reasoner, what is the extra work that needs to be done to create a 1.1 reasoner?

Ivan Herman: If someone has an old reasoner, what is the extra work that needs to be done to create a 1.1 reasoner?

16:26:36 <Zakim> +??P0

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16:26:56 <az> zakim, ??P0 is me

Antoine Zimmermann: zakim, ??P0 is me

16:26:56 <Zakim> +az; got it

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16:28:13 <gavinc> pfps: forwarding one of the personal requests to the RDF-WG mailing list

Peter Patel-Schneider: forwarding one of the personal requests to the RDF-WG mailing list

16:29:15 <Guus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Nov/0139.html

Guus Schreiber: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Nov/0139.html

16:31:45 <gavinc> pfps: Will work a bit on some Oxford stuff to see if I can get it to produce test results

Peter Patel-Schneider: Will work a bit on some Oxford stuff to see if I can get it to produce test results

16:32:07 <Zakim> +ericP

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16:33:21 <gavinc> ericP: ??? passed all of OWL2, might pass the RDF Semantics tests

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Euler passed all of OWL2, might pass the RDF Semantics tests

16:33:34 <ivan> s/???/Euler/
16:35:06 <gavinc> FabGandon: Oliver says "passing the entailments"

Fabien Gandon: Olivier Cory says "passing the entailments"

16:35:18 <gavinc> FabGandon: Asked him to send pfps an email

Fabien Gandon: Asked him to send pfps an email

16:35:46 <gavinc> ivan: That may mean we are fine, if Michael's works too

Ivan Herman: That may mean we are fine, if Michael's works too

16:36:10 <gavinc> s/Oliver/Olivier Cory/
16:36:33 <gavinc> pfps: So if I ping Olivier Cory he should send me test results back?

Peter Patel-Schneider: So if I ping Olivier Corby Cory he should send me test results back?

16:36:36 <FabGandon> s/Olivier/Olivier Corby/
16:37:02 <FabGandon> s/Olivier Cory/Olivier Corby/
16:38:01 <gavinc> Topic:  CR comments

3. CR comments

16:38:43 <gavinc> ericP: waiting on 5 from Dave Robillard

Eric Prud'hommeaux: waiting on 5 from Dave Robillard

16:38:49 <gavinc> AndyS: I sent reply on @base @prefix

Andy Seaborne: I sent reply on @base @prefix

16:38:59 <gavinc> ... comment 37 on turtle

... comment 37 on turtle

16:39:10 <gavinc> ... comment 6 on the other documents list

... comment 6 on the other documents list

16:40:16 <AndyS> ACTION-328 done

Andy Seaborne: ACTION-328 done

16:40:22 <AndyS> ACTION-328 close

Andy Seaborne: ACTION-328 close

16:40:46 <AndyS> to ivan, ericP - please update the test pages

Andy Seaborne: to ivan, ericP - please update the test pages

16:41:10 <AndyS> The version is d2aa3c0cdec7

Andy Seaborne: The version is d2aa3c0cdec7

16:43:09 <gavinc> http://www.w3.org/mid/alpine.LRH.2.02.1311171537260.23626@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com

http://www.w3.org/mid/alpine.LRH.2.02.1311171537260.23626@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com

16:44:02 <AndyS> Ivan - http://www.w3.org/2013/N-TriplesTests/ http://www.w3.org/2013/N-QuadsTests/ http://www.w3.org/2013/TrigTests/

Andy Seaborne: Ivan - http://www.w3.org/2013/N-TriplesTests/ http://www.w3.org/2013/N-QuadsTests/ http://www.w3.org/2013/TrigTests/

16:44:15 <ericP> ACTION: ericP to respond to http://www.w3.org/mid/alpine.LRH.2.02.1311171537260.23626@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com

ACTION: ericP to respond to http://www.w3.org/mid/alpine.LRH.2.02.1311171537260.23626@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com

16:44:54 <gavinc> Topic: RDF Schema

4. RDF Schema

16:45:34 <gavinc> Guus: Only real change might consider is the title of the document

Guus Schreiber: Only real change might consider is the title of the document

16:45:50 <gavinc> ... RDF 1.1 Vocabulary Description Language: RDF Schema

... RDF 1.1 Vocabulary Description Language: RDF Schema

16:45:57 <gavinc> ... would we be allowed to change the name?

... would we be allowed to change the name?

16:45:59 <pfps> I vote for tradition  :-)

Peter Patel-Schneider: I vote for tradition :-)

16:46:15 <gavinc> ivan: I know we have changed the names for RDFa, but only a small change

Ivan Herman: I know we have changed the names for RDFa, but only a small change

16:46:28 <gavinc> ... so no, I don't know if we can change the name

... so no, I don't know if we can change the name

16:46:50 <gavinc> ericP: The objection to the change would be that we're hiding the document

Eric Prud'hommeaux: The objection to the change would be that we're hiding the document

16:47:09 <gavinc> ... did we change to something that's not true, but we're saying we're changing to something that's more true

... did we change to something that's not true, but we're saying we're changing to something that's more true

16:47:29 <gavinc> ivan: We will see, if the director objects we can change it back. Not a big deal.

Ivan Herman: We will see, if the director objects we can change it back. Not a big deal.

16:47:58 <gavinc> Guus: taking action to propose a new time

Guus Schreiber: taking action to propose a new time

16:48:00 <gavinc> +q

+q

16:48:40 <gavinc> -q

-q

16:48:44 <Guus> ack gavinc

Guus Schreiber: ack gavinc

16:50:18 <gavinc> Topic:  RDF/XML

5. RDF/XML

16:50:30 <AndyS> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+

16:50:33 <gavinc> Guus: Change URI Refrence to IRI

Guus Schreiber: Change URI Refrence to IRI

16:50:44 <gkellogg> I believe "URI Reference" is replaced with just "IRI"

Gregg Kellogg: I believe "URI Reference" is replaced with just "IRI"

16:51:01 <AndyS> "RDF URI Reference" -> "IRI"

Andy Seaborne: "RDF URI Reference" -> "IRI"

16:52:27 <Zakim> +PatH

Zakim IRC Bot: +PatH

16:52:42 <Zakim> -David_Wood

Zakim IRC Bot: -David_Wood

16:53:00 <AndyS> ack me

Andy Seaborne: ack me

16:53:24 <gavinc> Topic: What's new in RDF

6. What's new in RDF

16:53:38 <pfps> sign me up

Peter Patel-Schneider: sign me up

16:53:51 <gavinc> Guus: Who can check the document?

Guus Schreiber: Who can check the document?

16:54:52 <gavinc> ACTION GavinC add syntax sections to What's new in RDF 1.1

ACTION GavinC add syntax sections to What's new in RDF 1.1

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16:54:59 <gavinc> ACTION gavinc add syntax sections to What's new in RDF 1.1

ACTION gavinc add syntax sections to What's new in RDF 1.1

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16:55:04 <gavinc> ACTION gcarothe add syntax sections to What's new in RDF 1.1

ACTION gcarothe add syntax sections to What's new in RDF 1.1

16:55:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-329 - Add syntax sections to what's new in rdf 1.1 [on Gavin Carothers - due 2013-12-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-329 - Add syntax sections to what's new in rdf 1.1 [on Gavin Carothers - due 2013-12-04].

16:55:20 <gavinc> Topic:  Primer

7. Primer

16:55:53 <gavinc> Guus: In general we have a very informal example in the beinging. PatH doesn't like it. Thinking of ways of making more informal.

Guus Schreiber: In general we have a very informal example in the beinging. PatH doesn't like it. Thinking of ways of making more informal.

16:57:02 <yvesr> maybe the (new) diagram would help a little?

Yves Raimond: maybe the (new) diagram would help a little?

16:57:08 <gavinc> path: objection is that it seems to transition from natural language examples to IRI examples without anything in between

Patrick Hayes: objection is that it seems to transition from natural language examples to IRI examples without anything in between

16:57:39 <gavinc> Guus: I can't seem to get rid of the term RDF Schema itself.

Guus Schreiber: I can't seem to get rid of the term RDF Schema itself.

16:57:55 <gavinc> ... schema is used in the outside world in many ambiguous ways

... schema is used in the outside world in many ambiguous ways

16:58:32 <gavinc> path: Maybe just call it RDFS?

Patrick Hayes: Maybe just call it RDFS?

16:58:43 <gavinc> Guus: Just call it RDFS, without explaining what the S is.

Guus Schreiber: Just call it RDFS, without explaining what the S is.

16:59:25 <gavinc> ... schema.org, it's a vocabulary

... schema.org, it's a vocabulary

16:59:39 <yvesr> in the primer now - there's no mention of Schema, without 'RDF ' or 'XML ' prefixing it

Yves Raimond: in the primer now - there's no mention of Schema, without 'RDF ' or 'XML ' prefixing it

17:00:20 <gavinc> ivan: If we change the title of the RDF Schema document it should have language in the SOTD referring to the old name

Ivan Herman: If we change the title of the RDF Schema document it should have language in the SOTD referring to the old name

17:01:39 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

17:02:21 <gavinc> Guus: Rest of primer discussion can happen via email

Guus Schreiber: Rest of primer discussion can happen via email

17:02:54 <gavinc> ... hopefully next week we have a version that's nearer to consensus

... hopefully next week we have a version that's nearer to consensus

17:03:33 <gavinc> Topic: Timing

8. Timing

17:04:13 <gavinc> Guus: As long as we have completed all our comments by the end of December if we extend for one or two months we'll likely get it.

Guus Schreiber: As long as we have completed all our comments by the end of December if we extend for one or two months we'll likely get it.

17:04:24 <gavinc> ... for things like the Primer and Notes.

... for things like the Primer and Notes.

17:06:21 <gavinc> Adjourned!

Adjourned!

17:06:24 <Zakim> -pfps

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17:06:25 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

17:06:26 <Zakim> -gkellogg

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17:06:26 <Zakim> -Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud

17:06:28 <Zakim> -ericP

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17:06:28 <Zakim> -PatH

Zakim IRC Bot: -PatH

17:06:30 <Zakim> -FabGandon

Zakim IRC Bot: -FabGandon

17:06:31 <Zakim> -GavinC

Zakim IRC Bot: -GavinC

17:06:32 <Zakim> -TallTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed

17:06:34 <Zakim> -yvesr

Zakim IRC Bot: -yvesr

17:06:35 <Zakim> -Guus_Schreiber

Zakim IRC Bot: -Guus_Schreiber

17:17:26 <Guus> trackbot, end meeting

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Guus Schreiber: trackbot, end meeting

17:17:26 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees

17:17:26 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been pfps, GavinC, AndyS, Guus_Schreiber, Ivan, TallTed, gkellogg, yvesr, David_Wood, Arnaud, FabGandon, az, ericP, PatH

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been pfps, GavinC, AndyS, Guus_Schreiber, Ivan, TallTed, gkellogg, yvesr, David_Wood, Arnaud, FabGandon, az, ericP, PatH

17:17:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes

17:17:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/27-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/27-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot

17:17:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye

17:17:35 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items



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