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12:57:29 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:57:29 <trackbot> Date: 24 July 2015
13:02:30 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee
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Deirdre Lee: present+ deirdrelee ←
13:02:45 <phila> present+ PhilA
Phil Archer: present+ PhilA ←
13:03:10 <MTCarrasco> present+
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: present+ ←
13:03:39 <phila> present+ MTCarrasco
Phil Archer: present+ MTCarrasco ←
13:03:54 <Caroline_> Present+ Caroline_
Caroline Burle: Present+ Caroline_ ←
13:04:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> present+ RiccardoAlbertoni
Riccardo Albertoni: present+ RiccardoAlbertoni ←
13:04:14 <Eric_Kauz> present+ Eric_Kauz
Eric Kauz: present+ Eric_Kauz ←
13:04:16 <RiccardoAlbertoni> hi all1
Riccardo Albertoni: hi all1 ←
13:04:28 <jerdeb> present+ jerdeb
Jeremy Debattista: present+ jerdeb ←
13:04:48 <deirdrelee> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150724
13:04:58 <ericstephan> present+
Eric Stephan: present+ ←
13:05:01 <InWeb-AdrianoC> Hi All!
Adriano Pereira: Hi All! ←
13:05:14 <Caroline_> Hello! :)
Caroline Burle: Hello! :) ←
13:05:17 <ericstephan> present+ Ericstephan
Eric Stephan: present+ Ericstephan ←
13:05:31 <Caroline_> I can scribe!
Caroline Burle: I can scribe! ←
13:05:39 <Caroline_> scribe: Caroline_
(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)
13:06:03 <annette_g> present+ annette_g
Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g ←
13:06:04 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Approve last week's meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-17
PROPOSED: Approve last week's meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-17 ←
13:06:12 <Caroline_> +1
+1 ←
13:06:16 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:06:17 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:06:19 <InWeb-AdrianoC> +1
Adriano Pereira: +1 ←
13:06:20 <PeterWinstanley> present+ PeterWinstanley
Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley ←
13:06:21 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:06:29 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
13:06:32 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-17
RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-17 ←
13:06:53 <PeterWinstanley> Hi Team, sorry I'm late.
Peter Winstanley: Hi Team, sorry I'm late. ←
13:07:25 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: we can talk briefly about all the documents before getting to DUV
Deirdre Lee: we can talk briefly about all the documents before getting to DUV ←
13:08:17 <phila> Caroline_: Bernadette is at a conference, Newton on holiday
Caroline Burle: Bernadette is at a conference, Newton on holiday [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:08:35 <phila> ... we usually have a weekly meeting. We have a lot to do before the F2F if we're going to get a new version
Phil Archer: ... we usually have a weekly meeting. We have a lot to do before the F2F if we're going to get a new version ←
13:08:53 <phila> Caroline_: Peter spoke last week about imroving the BP template
Caroline Burle: Peter spoke last week about imroving the BP template [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:09:22 <phila> ... We see it as a big cahallenge to update to his suggested template. We like it, but we're concerned about getting hte document finished by the end of the year
Phil Archer: ... We see it as a big cahallenge to update to his suggested template. We like it, but we're concerned about getting hte document finished by the end of the year ←
13:09:32 <phila> ... so we'd need help
Phil Archer: ... so we'd need help ←
13:09:41 <phila> ... It's great that the vocabs are getting together
Phil Archer: ... It's great that the vocabs are getting together ←
13:10:01 <phila> ... but it would be nice to get attantion on the BP doc so that we can make progress
Phil Archer: ... but it would be nice to get attantion on the BP doc so that we can make progress ←
13:10:09 <phila> ... Not sure if Newton has put commnets in the tracker yet
Phil Archer: ... Not sure if Newton has put commnets in the tracker yet ←
13:10:22 <phila> ... We must focus on getting back to the DCAT discussion to get agreement on that.
Phil Archer: ... We must focus on getting back to the DCAT discussion to get agreement on that. ←
13:10:28 <phila> ... Also we're working on a @@@ model
Phil Archer: ... Also we're working on a maturity model ←
13:10:43 <phila> ... we need input on that during the week (this week is on DUV)
Phil Archer: ... we need input on that during the week (this week is on DUV) ←
13:11:34 <phila> Caroline_: We need more examples in the doc and that needs help. This is important so that we can test the BPs
Caroline Burle: We need more examples in the doc and that needs help. This is important so that we can test the BPs [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:11:57 <phila> ... Also we need to start defining what the tests will be. We thought we could get examples and see how the tests ...
Phil Archer: ... Also we need to start defining what the tests will be. We thought we could get examples and see how the tests ... ←
13:12:15 <phila> ... we want to look at what other WGs have done. But we need to think about how we're going to test our BPs.
Phil Archer: ... we want to look at what other WGs have done. But we need to think about how we're going to test our BPs. ←
13:12:29 <phila> Caroline_: If you have suggestions we're always open to them. Thank you
Caroline Burle: If you have suggestions we're always open to them. Thank you [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:13:07 <phila> deirdrelee: Thanks Carol. If you can set out what you need decisions on, we can put them on next bweek's agenda
Deirdre Lee: Thanks Carol. If you can set out what you need decisions on, we can put them on next bweek's agenda [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:13:24 <phila> ... maybe 3-5 concrete things you need decisions on and then we can go from there.
Phil Archer: ... maybe 3-5 concrete things you need decisions on and then we can go from there. ←
13:13:52 <phila> Action: Burle to send e-mail to the WG summarising the currente state of the BP doc, including tasks and decisions to be taken.
ACTION: Burle to send e-mail to the WG summarising the currente state of the BP doc, including tasks and decisions to be taken. ←
13:13:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Send e-mail to the wg summarising the currente state of the bp doc, including tasks and decisions to be taken. [on Caroline Burle - due 2015-07-31].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-190 - Send e-mail to the wg summarising the currente state of the bp doc, including tasks and decisions to be taken. [on Caroline Burle - due 2015-07-31]. ←
13:14:17 <phila> Topic: DQV
13:14:19 <yaso> present +
Yaso Córdova: present + ←
13:14:30 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: let's talk about DUV
Deirdre Lee: let's talk about DUV ←
13:15:02 <Caroline_> RiccardoAlbertoni: the last two calls were very productive in terms of discussion
Riccardo Albertoni: the last two calls were very productive in terms of discussion ←
13:15:09 <ericstephan> Caroline_: current discussion on Data quality vocab
Caroline Burle: current discussion on Data quality vocab [ Scribe Assist by Eric Stephan ] ←
13:15:43 <Caroline_> ... I have to suggest a possible agenda for next f2f on data quality discussion
... I have to suggest a possible agenda for next f2f on data quality discussion ←
13:16:02 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: let's move to data usage vocabulary
Deirdre Lee: let's move to data usage vocabulary ←
13:16:14 <phila> I see there are 8 weeks between now and the F2F -including hte northern hemisphere summer
Phil Archer: I see there are 8 weeks between now and the F2F -including hte northern hemisphere summer ←
13:16:20 <phila> Topic: Dataset Usage Vocabulary
13:16:58 <ericstephan> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/189
Eric Stephan: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/189 ←
13:16:58 <Caroline_> ericstephan: we have made references to july's meetings
Eric Stephan: we have made references to july's meetings ←
13:17:11 <Caroline_> ... the action 189 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/189
... the ACTION-189 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/189 ←
13:17:36 <Caroline_> ... is to make sure we incorporate the issues we discussed three weeks ago on the document
... is to make sure we incorporate the issues we discussed three weeks ago on the document ←
13:17:39 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:17:59 <Caroline_> ... where there any updates that still need to be incorporated in public comment versus what we have in github?
... were there any updates that still need to be incorporated in public comment versus what we have in github? ←
13:18:06 <Caroline_> s/where/were
13:18:45 <Caroline_> s/@@@/maturity
13:19:09 <Caroline_> phila: there are somethings that have to be done
Phil Archer: there are somethings that have to be done ←
13:19:29 <Caroline_> ... ex. we must write World Wide Web with capital letters
... ex. we must write World Wide Web with capital letters ←
13:19:47 <Caroline_> ... that is the kind of thing I must do
... that is the kind of thing I must do ←
13:20:02 <Caroline_> ... it is easier for me to do it than ask anyone else to do it
... it is easier for me to do it than ask anyone else to do it ←
13:20:10 <Caroline_> ... I should track all these changes
... I should track all these changes ←
13:20:19 <Caroline_> ... ericstephan carry on as you are
... ericstephan carry on as you are ←
13:20:41 <Caroline_> ... if you see some of these changes please replicate it, but I am not asking you to make all these changes
... if you see some of these changes please replicate it, but I am not asking you to make all these changes ←
13:20:54 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I think consistance on american spelling is ??
Eric Stephan: I think consistance on american spelling is an oxymoron ←
13:21:20 <Caroline_> ... I didn't want to mess up what you got there
... I didn't want to mess up what you got there ←
13:21:28 <Caroline_> ... can we jump into the issues?
... can we jump into the issues? ←
13:21:30 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: yes
Deirdre Lee: yes ←
13:21:34 <phila> s/??/an oxymoron/
13:21:39 <ericstephan> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/173
Eric Stephan: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/173 ←
13:21:55 <phila> issue-173?
13:21:55 <trackbot> issue-173 -- The use of cito:CitationAct and duv:Citation should be reviewed. -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-173 -- The use of cito:CitationAct and duv:Citation should be reviewed. -- open ←
13:21:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/173
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/173 ←
13:21:56 <Caroline_> ericstephan: during july 3rd meeting we had a issues 169 to 172 that we have not resolved in the meeting
Eric Stephan: during july 3rd meeting we had a issues 169 to 172 that we have not resolved in the meeting ←
13:22:14 <Caroline_> ... the issue 173 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/173 is where we left it of
... the ISSUE-173 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/173 is where we left it of ←
13:22:46 <Caroline_> ... I would appreciate opinions about it
... I would appreciate opinions about it ←
13:22:55 <Caroline_> ... same or different of Carlos
... same or different of Carlos ←
13:23:02 <deirdrelee> DUV http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-duv/
Deirdre Lee: DUV http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-duv/ ←
13:23:18 <Caroline_> ... I think where Carlos was coming from perhaps that using the data usage vocabulary ??
... I think where Carlos was coming from perhaps that using the data usage vocabulary ?? ←
13:23:34 <Caroline_> ... are we doing things in a similar way of DCAT?
... are we doing things in a similar way of DCAT? ←
13:23:54 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:23:54 <Caroline_> ... I wouljd like to keep this issue open and have more clarification with Carlos on it
... I wouljd like to keep this issue open and have more clarification with Carlos on it ←
13:24:25 <Caroline_> ... I think if DCAT is doing things in a certain way we could do things in a synergic way thinking on what DACT is already using
... I think if DCAT is doing things in a certain way we could do things in a synergic way thinking on what DACT is already using ←
13:25:14 <Caroline_> ... the reason why we chose ?? in the very begining is because it has few classes and a number of properties
... the reason why we chose dublin core in the very begining is because it has few classes and a number of properties ←
13:25:23 <Caroline_> ... I wasn't thinking about vocabulary reuse
... I wasn't thinking about vocabulary reuse ←
13:25:38 <Caroline_> s/??/dublin core
13:25:53 <deirdrelee> ack phila
Deirdre Lee: ack phila ←
13:26:24 <Caroline_> phila: are you trying to give a textual string how you site it?
Phil Archer: are you trying to give a textual string how you site it? ←
13:26:33 <Caroline_> ... what is the nature of the class?
... what is the nature of the class? ←
13:26:53 <Caroline_> ericstephan: thre was quite a bit of discussion after the f2f
Eric Stephan: thre was quite a bit of discussion after the f2f ←
13:27:05 <Caroline_> ... from a scientific perspective
... from a scientific perspective ←
13:27:48 <Caroline_> ... one of the things we are considering from the use cases we had on siding sources there are other kind of ways
... one of the things we are considering from the use cases we had on siding sources there are other kind of ways ←
13:28:20 <Caroline_> ... I was looking for if there is a broather scientific sitention
... I was looking for if there is a broather scientific citation ←
13:28:26 <phila> ack mehttps://www.datacite.org/services/format-your-citation.html
Phil Archer: ack mehttps://www.datacite.org/services/format-your-citation.html ←
13:28:31 <phila> https://www.datacite.org/services/format-your-citation.html
Phil Archer: https://www.datacite.org/services/format-your-citation.html ←
13:28:45 <Caroline_> s/sitention/citation
13:28:55 <Caroline_> s/site/cite
13:29:00 <phila> http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#terms-bibliographicCitation
Phil Archer: http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#terms-bibliographicCitation ←
13:29:06 <Caroline_> phila: the question is how do you link to that test
Phil Archer: the question is how do you link to that test ←
13:29:21 <Caroline_> ... probably is how to use dublin core to scientific citation
... probably is how to use dublin core to scientific citation ←
13:29:41 <Caroline_> ... if in your mind data citation is a string
... if in your mind data citation is a string ←
13:29:58 <ericstephan> http://sempublishing.sourceforge.net/
Eric Stephan: http://sempublishing.sourceforge.net/ ←
13:30:03 <Caroline_> ... to be consistent it would use dublin core, but it might not be the best to use
... to be consistent it would use dublin core, but it might not be the best to use ←
13:30:16 <Caroline_> ericstephan: looking in different kind citation vocabularies
Eric Stephan: looking in different kind citation vocabularies ←
13:30:38 <Caroline_> ... there is a lot of different kinds of vocabularies
... there is a lot of different kinds of vocabularies ←
13:30:50 <Caroline_> phila: another source is Michael Demontier?
Phil Archer: another source is Michael Dumontier ←
13:31:06 <Caroline_> ... a direct email to Michel could help
... a direct email to Michel could help ←
13:31:09 <phila> Michel Dumontier
Phil Archer: Michel Dumontier ←
13:31:16 <Caroline_> ... he is interested on it
... he is interested on it ←
13:31:26 <Caroline_> s/Demontier?/Dumontier
13:31:56 <Caroline_> ericstephan: looking for input into the vocabulary with very target question and getting some confirmation on what we are doing here
Eric Stephan: looking for input into the vocabulary with very target question and getting some confirmation on what we are doing here ←
13:32:23 <Caroline_> ... I would like to keep this issue open until I get some confirmation from Carlos and get a chane to hear from Michel
... I would like to keep this issue open until I get some confirmation from Carlos and get a chane to hear from Michel ←
13:32:26 <ericstephan> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/174
Eric Stephan: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/174 ←
13:32:32 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
13:33:11 <Caroline_> annette_g: I was going to ask what is the best way to submit ideas to DUV issues
Annette Greiner: I was going to ask what is the best way to submit ideas to DUV issues ←
13:33:13 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g
Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g ←
13:33:38 <Caroline_> ericstephan: you can send privaly or just send an email to the group email, which would be best
Eric Stephan: you can send privaly or just send an email to the group email, which would be best ←
13:33:44 <phila> q+ to highlight an old thread https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Feb/0110.html
Phil Archer: q+ to highlight an old thread https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Feb/0110.html ←
13:33:56 <Caroline_> ... so if we have something coming up as issue or action we can refere it
... so if we have something coming up as issue or action we can refere it ←
13:34:21 <phila> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:34:21 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to highlight an old thread https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Feb/0110.html
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to highlight an old thread https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Feb/0110.html ←
13:34:24 <deirdrelee> ack phila
Deirdre Lee: ack phila ←
13:34:25 <Caroline_> ... we need to make sure we addree everything we raised on the last f2f
... we need to make sure we addree everything we raised on the last f2f ←
13:34:52 <Caroline_> phila: just to point that Michel ???
Phil Archer: just to point that Michel ??? ←
13:34:53 <deirdrelee> issue-174
13:34:53 <trackbot> issue-174 -- The meaning of duv:retains is not clear. More examples should be provided and its use should be reviewed. -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-174 -- The meaning of duv:retains is not clear. More examples should be provided and its use should be reviewed. -- open ←
13:34:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/174
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/174 ←
13:35:18 <phila> I just wanted to put that e-mail archive in the minutes. Done now, thanks Caroline_
Phil Archer: I just wanted to put that e-mail archive in the minutes. Done now, thanks Caroline_ ←
13:36:00 <annette_g> * I have the same issue, I think
Annette Greiner: * I have the same issue, I think ←
13:36:02 <RiccardoAlbertoni> bye phil
Riccardo Albertoni: bye phil ←
13:36:46 <Caroline_> ericstephan: regarding DUV we tried to articulate this concept
Eric Stephan: regarding DUV we tried to articulate this concept ←
13:37:06 <Caroline_> ... to associate basicaly a history associate to the dataset
... to associate basicaly a history associate to the dataset ←
13:37:19 <Caroline_> ... when I say history think specifically about provenance
... when I say history think specifically about provenance ←
13:37:34 <Caroline_> ... the way that we talked about itens like this in the July 3rd meeting
... the way that we talked about itens like this in the July 3rd meeting ←
13:38:03 <Caroline_> ... the way we are recording the data usage vocabulary in provenance
... the way we are recording the data usage vocabulary in provenance ←
13:38:27 <Caroline_> ... so I would like to propose to remove it from the model and put it on text so the data usage can be supported
... so I would like to propose to remove it from the model and put it on text so the data usage can be supported ←
13:38:28 <annette_g> +1 to Eric
Annette Greiner: +1 to Eric ←
13:39:10 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:39:36 <ericstephan> PROPOSED: remove duv:retains property and provide guidance in DUV on recording provenance for DU issue-174
PROPOSED: remove duv:retains property and provide guidance in DUV on recording property for DU ISSUE-174 ←
13:39:55 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
13:39:55 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:39:58 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:39:58 <Caroline_> s/provenance/property
13:40:00 <Caroline_> +1
+1 ←
13:40:06 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:40:09 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:40:13 <Caroline_> s/provenance/property
13:40:13 <Eric_Kauz> +1
13:40:25 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:40:32 <ericstephan> RESOLVED: remove duv:retains property and provide guidance in DUV on recording provenance for DU issue-174
RESOLVED: remove duv:retains property and provide guidance in DUV on recording provenance for DU ISSUE-174 ←
13:40:48 <deirdrelee> close issue-174
Deirdre Lee: close ISSUE-174 ←
13:40:48 <trackbot> Closed issue-174.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-174. ←
13:40:56 <ericstephan> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/175
Eric Stephan: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/175 ←
13:41:08 <deirdrelee> issue-175
13:41:08 <trackbot> issue-175 -- Shouldn't duv:DatasetCorrection be a dcat:Dataset as well? -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-175 -- Shouldn't duv:DatasetCorrection be a dcat:Dataset as well? -- open ←
13:41:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/175
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/175 ←
13:41:14 <Caroline_> ericstephan: about the issue 175 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/175
Eric Stephan: about the ISSUE-175 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/175 ←
13:41:34 <Caroline_> ... unfortunatelly Summit is not here
... unfortunatelly Summit is not here ←
13:41:38 <Caroline_> ... I agree with Carlos
... I agree with Carlos ←
13:41:55 <Caroline_> ... this was from a context of how do we record if someone is creating a dataset?
... this was from a context of how do we record if someone is creating a dataset? ←
13:42:03 <Caroline_> .... this is where it comes from
.... this is where it comes from ←
13:42:26 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
13:42:26 <Caroline_> ... I think Summit thoughts where that it wouldn't be the dataset itself but a small portion of it
... I think Summit thoughts where that it wouldn't be the dataset itself but a small portion of it ←
13:42:34 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g
Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g ←
13:43:14 <Caroline_> annette_g: maybe it doesn't need to be int hte DUV itself
Annette Greiner: maybe it doesn't need to be int hte DUV itself ←
13:43:29 <Caroline_> ... maybe just letting someone letting know they are using your data
... maybe just letting someone letting know they are using your data ←
13:43:39 <Caroline_> ... I still don't think as usage so much
... I still don't think as usage so much ←
13:44:00 <Caroline_> ericstephan: the feedback is mainly informational
Eric Stephan: the feedback is mainly informational ←
13:44:08 <Caroline_> ... it would be almost as distribution
... it would be almost as distribution ←
13:44:22 <Caroline_> ... it might be safer place to stay on the impermissional lever
... it might be safer place to stay on the impermissional level ←
13:44:24 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:44:26 <Caroline_> s/lever/level
13:44:30 <Caroline_> ... with this vocabulary
... with this vocabulary ←
13:44:52 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: there are lots of different ways that could be interpreted
Deirdre Lee: there are lots of different ways that could be interpreted ←
13:45:04 <Caroline_> ... it could be a correction of the dataset, or a new dataset, etc
... it could be a correction of the dataset, or a new dataset, etc ←
13:45:36 <Caroline_> ... maybe in the first case the feedback is a suggestion to correct the dataset it could be implemented
... maybe in the first case the feedback is a suggestion to correct the dataset it could be implemented ←
13:45:42 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee
Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee ←
13:45:49 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I like the way you phrased it deirdrelee
Eric Stephan: I like the way you phrased it deirdrelee ←
13:45:59 <Caroline_> ... I would like to put it in a proposal
... I would like to put it in a proposal ←
13:46:11 <Caroline_> ... it sounds in a particulary way of feedback
... it sounds in a particulary way of feedback ←
13:46:22 <Caroline_> ... why am I giving the feedback
... why am I giving the feedback ←
13:46:30 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: it makes sense
Deirdre Lee: it makes sense ←
13:46:50 <Caroline_> ... if you are going to classify types of feedback then what kind of feedback you would classify
... if you are going to classify types of feedback then what kind of feedback you would classify ←
13:46:59 <annette_g> * the ocean's temperature is rising...
Annette Greiner: * the ocean's temperature is rising... ←
13:47:01 <Caroline_> ericstephan: we can provide guidence about how the DUV can be extended
Eric Stephan: we can provide guidence about how the DUV can be extended ←
13:47:23 <Caroline_> ... we could propose reviewing dataset correction or the model again
... we could propose reviewing dataset correction or the model again ←
13:47:29 <Caroline_> ... let's go to the proposal
... let's go to the proposal ←
13:48:03 <ericstephan> PROPOSED: We remove the DatasetCorrection class and review how activities such as correction and curation can be performed in the DUV model.
PROPOSED: We remove the DatasetCorrection class and review how activities such as correction and curation can be performed in the DUV model. ←
13:48:29 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
13:48:57 <Caroline_> annette_g: I still don't see why we need to address that on DUV
Annette Greiner: I still don't see why we need to address that on DUV ←
13:49:00 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g
Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g ←
13:49:05 <Caroline_> ericstephan: it is a valid question
Eric Stephan: it is a valid question ←
13:49:25 <Caroline_> ... I think part of it is that thinking about the motivation or help people to think about applying the DUV
... I think part of it is that thinking about the motivation or help people to think about applying the DUV ←
13:50:02 <Caroline_> ... if someone thinks "maybe this dataset is incorrect and needs to change in some way"
... if someone thinks "maybe this dataset is incorrect and needs to change in some way" ←
13:50:15 <Caroline_> ... if it needs to be more descriptive for instance
... if it needs to be more descriptive for instance ←
13:50:37 <Caroline_> annette_g: I just don't think would be worth to put all the different possibilities
Annette Greiner: I just don't think would be worth to put all the different possibilities ←
13:50:50 <Caroline_> ... isn't feedback the same thing?
... isn't feedback the same thing? ←
13:51:05 <Caroline_> ... it is important to give feedback but I don't see as usage
... it is important to give feedback but I don't see as usage ←
13:51:13 <Caroline_> ericstephan: we get dataset feedback
Eric Stephan: we get dataset feedback ←
13:51:38 <Caroline_> ... if we think as feedback as a general leval
... if we think as feedback as a general level ←
13:51:43 <Caroline_> s/leval/level
13:52:25 <Caroline_> annette_g: I am thinking that the DUV could be more focused on the need of the publishers
Annette Greiner: I am thinking that the DUV could be more focused on the need of the publishers ←
13:52:54 <Caroline_> ... right now we have vocabularies that describe interaction, but does not describe how it has been used
... right now we have vocabularies that describe interaction, but does not describe how it has been used ←
13:53:12 <Caroline_> ... are they mixinng up other data or creating something different?
... are they mixinng up other data or creating something different? ←
13:53:36 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I would love to work through examples with you and decide which are important
Eric Stephan: I would love to work through examples with you and decide which are important ←
13:53:54 <Caroline_> ... some of the examples you put on DUV helped to connect the document
... some of the examples you put on DUV helped to connect the document ←
13:54:17 <Caroline_> ... if this vocabulary is going to be useful people need to think why data usage is importatn to be described
... if this vocabulary is going to be useful people need to think why data usage is importatn to be described ←
13:54:27 <Caroline_> ... real world use cases would be important
... real world use cases would be important ←
13:54:33 <Caroline_> ... we can work on examples
... we can work on examples ←
13:54:51 <Caroline_> annette_g: I will write an email to get things more concret
Annette Greiner: I will write an email to get things more concrete ←
13:54:57 <Caroline_> s/concret/concrete
13:55:15 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I still think is important to review activities
Eric Stephan: I still think is important to review activities ←
13:55:40 <Caroline_> ... we can change the proposal to make sure the dataset usage vocabulary is in a more general level
... we can change the proposal to make sure the dataset usage vocabulary is in a more general level ←
13:55:54 <annette_g> +1 to Deirdre
Annette Greiner: +1 to Deirdre ←
13:55:56 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: the specifis are not bad as long as they are key to DUV
Deirdre Lee: the specifis are not bad as long as they are key to DUV ←
13:56:21 <ericstephan> PROPOSED: We remove the DatasetCorrection class
PROPOSED: We remove the DatasetCorrection class ←
13:56:23 <Caroline_> ericstephan: maybe if we put them in text we can help people see how to use them
Eric Stephan: maybe if we put them in text we can help people see how to use them ←
13:56:32 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
13:56:38 <Caroline_> +1
+1 ←
13:56:39 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:56:39 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:56:39 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:56:42 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:56:44 <Eric_Kauz> +1
13:56:48 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:57:05 <ericstephan> RESOLVED: We remove the DatasetCorrection class
RESOLVED: We remove the DatasetCorrection class ←
13:57:09 <deirdrelee> close issue-175
Deirdre Lee: close ISSUE-175 ←
13:57:09 <trackbot> Closed issue-175.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-175. ←
13:58:20 <Caroline_> deirdrelee: next week we will talk about the BP document again
Deirdre Lee: next week we will talk about the BP document again ←
13:58:43 <Caroline_> ... we have 8 weeks until the F2F, which is about 2 or 3 calls about the BP Document
... we have 8 weeks until the F2F, which is about 2 or 3 calls about the BP Document ←
13:58:44 <Caroline_> q+
q+ ←
13:59:24 <deirdrelee> ack Caroline_
Deirdre Lee: ack Caroline_ ←
14:00:22 <MTCarrasco> bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye ←
14:00:24 <annette_g> bye all!
Annette Greiner: bye all! ←
14:00:27 <yaso> bye, thanks all!
Yaso Córdova: bye, thanks all! ←
14:00:29 <RiccardoAlbertoni> bye!
Riccardo Albertoni: bye! ←
14:00:33 <Caroline_> Caroline_: would be great to get feedback by email so we can have a more focused call
Caroline Burle: would be great to get feedback by email so we can have a more focused call ←
14:00:40 <Caroline_> bye!
bye! ←
14:00:41 <jerdeb> bye!
Jeremy Debattista: bye! ←
14:03:08 <InWeb-AdrianoC> Bye all!
Adriano Pereira: Bye all! ←
14:08:13 <laufer> oopsss... I thought the meeting was at 11 am here in Rio... my mistake...
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Carlos Laufer: oopsss... I thought the meeting was at 11 am here in Rio... my mistake... ←
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