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12:59:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
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12:59:27 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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12:59:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:59:28 <trackbot> Date: 17 July 2015
12:59:51 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee
Deirdre Lee: present+ deirdrelee ←
13:00:28 <deirdrelee> RRSAgent:, make logs public
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13:00:35 <Caroline> Present+ Caroline
Caroline Burle: Present+ Caroline ←
13:01:19 <RiccardoAlbertoni> hi all!
Riccardo Albertoni: hi all! ←
13:01:44 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Present+ RiccardoAlbertoni
Riccardo Albertoni: Present+ RiccardoAlbertoni ←
13:01:45 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150717
13:02:05 <Eric_Kauz> present+ Eric_Kauz
Eric Kauz: present+ Eric_Kauz ←
13:02:52 <antoine> present+ antoine
Antoine Isaac: present+ antoine ←
13:03:03 <deirdrelee> i can only see 4 people on webex..
Deirdre Lee: i can only see 4 people on webex.. ←
13:03:44 <Caroline> Webex link https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9
Caroline Burle: Webex link https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 ←
13:03:47 <PeterWinstanley> present+ PeterWinstanley
Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley ←
13:04:47 <ericstephan> present+ ericstephan
Eric Stephan: present+ ericstephan ←
13:05:44 <yaso> present+ yaso
Yaso Córdova: present+ yaso ←
13:05:56 <deirdrelee> zakim, pick a victim
Deirdre Lee: zakim, pick a victim ←
13:05:56 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is ←
13:06:02 <deirdrelee> zakim, this is dwbp
Deirdre Lee: zakim, this is dwbp ←
13:06:02 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I do not see a conference named 'dwbp' in progress or scheduled at this time
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I do not see a conference named 'dwbp' in progress or scheduled at this time ←
13:06:05 <annette_g> present+ annette_g
Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g ←
13:06:59 <deirdrelee> scribe: annette_g
(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)
13:07:03 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10
PROPOSED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10 ←
13:07:07 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:07:11 <ericstephan> +0 not present
Eric Stephan: +0 not present ←
13:07:12 <Eric_Kauz> +1
13:07:22 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:07:26 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:07:44 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:07:57 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10
RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10 ←
13:08:06 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150717
13:08:09 <SumitPurohit> +0 not present
Sumit Purohit: +0 not present ←
13:08:13 <annette_g> ACCEPTED: Approve last week's meeting minutes
RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes ←
13:08:38 <deirdrelee> topic: data quality vocabulary
13:08:42 <Caroline> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
13:08:44 <Eric_Kauz> +1
13:09:05 <RiccardoAlbertoni> sure !
Riccardo Albertoni: sure ! ←
13:09:16 <deirdrelee> FPWD is at http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/
Deirdre Lee: FPWD is at http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/ ←
13:09:40 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni: we haven't received a lot of comments, just some discussion on services
Antoine Isaac: we haven't received a lot of comments, just some discussion on services ←
13:10:00 <annette_g> deirdrelee: is dissemination the issue maybe?
Deirdre Lee: is dissemination the issue maybe? ←
13:10:36 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
13:10:40 <annette_g> s/RiccardoAlbertoni/antoine
13:11:09 <PeterWinstanley> +q
Peter Winstanley: +q ←
13:11:19 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:11:32 <annette_g> ericstephan: DUV hasn't had much activity either
Eric Stephan: DUV hasn't had much activity either ←
13:12:25 <deirdrelee> ack PeterWinstanley
Deirdre Lee: ack PeterWinstanley ←
13:12:46 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: I think we should get 2 groups involved, SharePSI and Open Knowledge
Peter Winstanley: I think we should get 2 groups involved, SharePSI and Open Knowledge ←
13:12:54 <CarlosIglesias> present+ CarlosIglesias
Carlos Iglesias: present+ CarlosIglesias ←
13:13:11 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, present+ CarlosIglesias
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, present+ CarlosIglesias ←
13:13:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'present+ CarlosIglesias', CarlosIglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'present+ CarlosIglesias', CarlosIglesias ←
13:13:31 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: you as chair should email people in those groups
Peter Winstanley: you as chair should email people in those groups ←
13:14:06 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: you should also give them a time that's not open ended
Peter Winstanley: you should also give them a time that's not open ended ←
13:14:22 <annette_g> deirdrelee: something like a feedback template?
Deirdre Lee: something like a feedback template? ←
13:14:43 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: yes, request feedback on 3 or 4 different things
Peter Winstanley: yes, request feedback on 3 or 4 different things ←
13:15:00 <ericstephan> +1 PeterWinstanley
Eric Stephan: +1 PeterWinstanley ←
13:15:22 <annette_g> deirdrelee: sounds good. Antoine and Eric, what do you think?
Deirdre Lee: sounds good. Antoine and Eric, what do you think? ←
13:15:38 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
13:15:42 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:15:48 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:16:01 <annette_g> ericstephan: I like Peter's idea
Eric Stephan: I like Peter's idea ←
13:16:23 <PeterWinstanley> is the vocabulary standard clearly described? Is it relevant to their sector? If it was applied to their sector would it make a significant improvement in the direction which the vocabulary is aimed to deliver?
Peter Winstanley: is the vocabulary standard clearly described? Is it relevant to their sector? If it was applied to their sector would it make a significant improvement in the direction which the vocabulary is aimed to deliver? ←
13:16:46 <annette_g> ericstephan: targeting users with specific questions would help us get some feedback
Eric Stephan: targeting users with specific questions would help us get some feedback ←
13:17:14 <CarlosIglesias> why only those two groups?
Carlos Iglesias: why only those two groups? ←
13:17:19 <CarlosIglesias> there are other relevant ones
Carlos Iglesias: there are other relevant ones ←
13:17:21 <annette_g> deirdrelee: maybe put the template on the wiki?
Deirdre Lee: maybe put the template on the wiki? ←
13:17:24 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:17:35 <CarlosIglesias> e.g. JoinedUp data, International Open Data Charter
Carlos Iglesias: e.g. JoinedUp data, International Open Data Charter ←
13:17:35 <deirdrelee> ack antoine
Deirdre Lee: ack antoine ←
13:17:36 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
Riccardo Albertoni: q+ ←
13:17:49 <annette_g> ericstephan: we should maybe do our own. Antoine?
Eric Stephan: we should maybe do our own. Antoine? ←
13:18:42 <annette_g> antoine: we may be missing some categories of general feedback. we might have a hard time articulating the needs.
Antoine Isaac: we may be missing some categories of general feedback. we might have a hard time articulating the needs. ←
13:18:45 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni ←
13:19:23 <ericstephan> the only enemy of vocabulary feedback it is the holiday season...
Eric Stephan: the only enemy of vocabulary feedback it is the holiday season... ←
13:19:25 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni: the issues we have are mostly very specific, but some are more broad, like what is an SLA?
Riccardo Albertoni: the issues we have are mostly very specific, but some are more broad, like what is an SLA? ←
13:20:30 <RiccardoAlbertoni> yes..
Riccardo Albertoni: yes.. ←
13:20:33 <annette_g> deirdrelee: action items?
Deirdre Lee: action items? ←
13:20:37 <antoine> yes
Antoine Isaac: yes ←
13:21:36 <ericstephan> SumitPurohit - does this sound okay to you?
Eric Stephan: SumitPurohit - does this sound okay to you? ←
13:21:56 <deirdrelee> ACTION: ericstephan to create template for feedback on DQV and DUV together with all editors
ACTION: ericstephan to create template for feedback on DQV and DUV together with all editors ←
13:21:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-185 - Create template for feedback on dqv and duv together with all editors [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-185 - Create template for feedback on dqv and duv together with all editors [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24]. ←
13:22:19 <deirdrelee> ACTION: ericstephan to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DUV
ACTION: ericstephan to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DUV ←
13:22:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-186 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on duv [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-186 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on duv [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24]. ←
13:22:27 <deirdrelee> ACTION: antoine to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DQV
ACTION: antoine to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DQV ←
13:22:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-187 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on dqv [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-187 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on dqv [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24]. ←
13:23:05 <annette_g> deirdrelee: once there's a template, maybe dwbp can use the templates too
Deirdre Lee: once there's a template, maybe dwbp can use the templates too ←
13:23:16 <annette_g> deirdrelee: on to DQV
Deirdre Lee: on to DQV ←
13:23:17 <deirdrelee> topic: open issues for DQV
13:23:54 <annette_g> antoine: first issue is 179
Antoine Isaac: first issue is 179 ←
13:24:01 <deirdrelee> DQV doc: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/
Deirdre Lee: DQV doc: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/ ←
13:24:13 <annette_g> putting new termsi into the DCAT namespace
putting new termsi into the DCAT namespace ←
13:24:29 <annette_g> deirdrelee: was discussed last week
Deirdre Lee: was discussed last week ←
13:24:35 <annette_g> antoine: for the f2f?
Antoine Isaac: for the f2f? ←
13:24:48 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
Riccardo Albertoni: q+ ←
13:24:50 <annette_g> deirdrelee: put it aside until then? maybe should be resolved before then
Deirdre Lee: put it aside until then? maybe should be resolved before then ←
13:25:10 <annette_g> deirdrelee: was on the agenda last week, but not discussed
Deirdre Lee: was on the agenda last week, but not discussed ←
13:25:15 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni ←
13:25:41 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni: from the email, it seemed we would have a release and then consider the reaction from the community
Riccardo Albertoni: from the email, it seemed we would have a release and then consider the reaction from the community ←
13:26:20 <annette_g> deirdrelee: sounds like a good issue to add to the feedback template
Deirdre Lee: sounds like a good issue to add to the feedback template ←
13:26:46 <annette_g> antoine: issue 180, can we reuse elements from DQ vocabulary
Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-180, can we reuse elements from DAQ vocabulary ←
13:27:00 <annette_g> s/DQ/DAQ
13:28:17 <annette_g> antoine: I would prefer to redeclare them because I tried twice to access them and it was down
Antoine Isaac: I would prefer to redeclare them because I tried twice to access them and it was down ←
13:29:36 <annette_g> antoine: what kind of commitment would we need?
Antoine Isaac: what kind of commitment would we need? ←
13:30:12 <annette_g> ACTION: antoine to follow up with DAQ vocab people
ACTION: antoine to follow up with DAQ vocab people ←
13:30:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Follow up with daq vocab people [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-188 - Follow up with daq vocab people [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24]. ←
13:30:24 <deirdrelee> Q?
Deirdre Lee: Q? ←
13:30:45 <deirdrelee> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165
Deirdre Lee: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165 ←
13:30:48 <annette_g> antoine: issue 165, relationship between DUV and DQV feedback
Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-165, relationship between DUV and DQV feedback ←
13:31:21 <SumitPurohit> q+
Sumit Purohit: q+ ←
13:31:29 <annette_g> antoine: are the semantically the same? what would be the fate of a merged class if we put everything into DCAT?
Antoine Isaac: are the semantically the same? what would be the fate of a merged class if we put everything into DCAT? ←
13:32:00 <deirdrelee> ack SumitPurohit
Deirdre Lee: ack SumitPurohit ←
13:32:21 <annette_g> SumitPurohit: DUV feedback strives to include the experience of using the thing.
Sumit Purohit: DUV feedback strives to include the experience of using the thing. ←
13:32:21 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
13:32:56 <annette_g> SumitPurohit: DQV may have the same idea
Sumit Purohit: DQV may have the same idea ←
13:33:04 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:33:11 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:33:29 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q?
Riccardo Albertoni: q? ←
13:33:40 <annette_g> * it's awfully quiet on deirdrelee's end
* it's awfully quiet on deirdrelee's end ←
13:34:24 <annette_g> ericstephan: would like to maybe have an email discussion between editors
Eric Stephan: would like to maybe have an email discussion between editors ←
13:35:19 <annette_g> ericstephan: some intended uses may go beyond what the other vocab wants.
Eric Stephan: some intended uses may go beyond what the other vocab wants. ←
13:35:28 <annette_g> …does that sound okay?
…does that sound okay? ←
13:35:33 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni: yep
Riccardo Albertoni: yep ←
13:35:39 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:35:40 <RiccardoAlbertoni> yes it sounds ok..
Riccardo Albertoni: yes it sounds ok.. ←
13:35:54 <deirdrelee> ack antoine
Deirdre Lee: ack antoine ←
13:36:35 <annette_g> antoine: there was not much action to do for the DUV
Antoine Isaac: there was not much action to do for the DUV ←
13:36:50 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
13:36:54 <annette_g> antoine: we should discuss and see whether there is some divergence
Antoine Isaac: we should discuss and see whether there is some divergence ←
13:36:59 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:37:18 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to ericstephan
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to ericstephan ←
13:37:18 <annette_g> ericstephan: would be good to look at examples, for both vocabs
Eric Stephan: would be good to look at examples, for both vocabs ←
13:37:42 <annette_g> ericstephan: would love to iterate on some of the examples
Eric Stephan: would love to iterate on some of the examples ←
13:37:57 <annette_g> deirdrelee: sounds good for getting into the nitty gritty
Deirdre Lee: sounds good for getting into the nitty gritty ←
13:38:24 <deirdrelee> issue-181
13:38:24 <trackbot> issue-181 -- Should we have only the existing class daq:QualityGraph or keep the new class dqv:QualityMetadata? -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-181 -- Should we have only the existing class daq:QualityGraph or keep the new class dqv:QualityMetadata? -- open ←
13:38:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181 ←
13:38:38 <annette_g> antoine: issue 181 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181
Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-181 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181 ←
13:38:59 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
Riccardo Albertoni: q+ ←
13:39:07 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni ←
13:39:46 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni: these are probably too technical for discussion with the group, mostly in there to remind us to deal with them
Riccardo Albertoni: these are probably too technical for discussion with the group, mostly in there to remind us to deal with them ←
13:40:41 <annette_g> deirdrelee: so, the editors need to make sure they get addressed before the next public working draft
Deirdre Lee: so, the editors need to make sure they get addressed before the next public working draft ←
13:41:22 <annette_g> antoine: issue-182
13:41:24 <deirdrelee> isue-182
Deirdre Lee: isue-182 ←
13:41:30 <deirdrelee> issue-182
13:41:30 <trackbot> issue-182 -- The label of daq:QualityGraph does not fit well with the current model -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-182 -- The label of daq:QualityGraph does not fit well with the current model -- open ←
13:41:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/182
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/182 ←
13:41:59 <RiccardoAlbertoni> yes..
Riccardo Albertoni: yes.. ←
13:42:08 <annette_g> antoine: maybe treat this one like the previous
Antoine Isaac: maybe treat this one like the previous ←
13:42:28 <deirdrelee> issue-183
13:42:28 <trackbot> issue-183 -- We may want to consider a revision of DCAT to make dcat:Dataset and dcat:Distribution subclasses of prov:Entity -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-183 -- We may want to consider a revision of DCAT to make dcat:Dataset and dcat:Distribution subclasses of prov:Entity -- open ←
13:42:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/183
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/183 ←
13:42:32 <annette_g> antoine: suggestion for DCAT vocab
Antoine Isaac: suggestion for DCAT vocab ←
13:43:59 <annette_g> antoine: we use dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution that way. This is to be compatible with the prov. In my view this is not needed. I would not go through the pain of revising DCAT for this.
Antoine Isaac: we use dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution that way. This is to be compatible with the prov. In my view this is not needed. I would not go through the pain of revising DCAT for this. ←
13:44:29 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
13:44:36 <annette_g> deirdrelee: what effect would that have for DCAT and existing implentations?
Deirdre Lee: what effect would that have for DCAT and existing implentations? ←
13:44:50 <annette_g> would it be straightforward to do?
would it be straightforward to do? ←
13:44:55 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
Riccardo Albertoni: q+ ←
13:45:03 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:46:00 <annette_g> ericstephan: when prov:entity was created, my impression was as part of the prov WG, we used the term 'thing' quite a bit. everything inherited this overarching concept. I agree with Antoine on the Open World concept.
Eric Stephan: when prov:entity was created, my impression was as part of the prov WG, we used the term 'thing' quite a bit. everything inherited this overarching concept. I agree with Antoine on the Open World concept. ←
13:46:41 <annette_g> ericstephan: from a prov:entity standpoint, anything can be one. It wouldn't make sense for dcat to enherit from something like that.
Eric Stephan: from a prov:entity standpoint, anything can be one. It wouldn't make sense for dcat to enherit from something like that. ←
13:47:28 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni ←
13:47:37 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni: probably we can close this issue
Riccardo Albertoni: probably we can close this issue ←
13:48:11 <annette_g> PROPSED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity
PROPOSED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity ←
13:48:21 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:48:23 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:48:24 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:48:26 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 ←
13:48:30 <deirdrelee> s /PRPSED/PROPOSED
Deirdre Lee: s /PRPSED/PROPOSED ←
13:48:33 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:48:37 <ericstephan> s/PROPSED/PROPOSED/
13:48:53 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:48:55 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity
RESOLVED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity ←
13:48:57 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:49:07 <deirdrelee> CLOSE issue-183
Deirdre Lee: CLOSE ISSUE-183 ←
13:49:07 <trackbot> Closed issue-183.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-183. ←
13:49:24 <annette_g> antoine: issue-184
13:49:24 <deirdrelee> issue-184?
13:49:24 <trackbot> issue-184 -- Is an dqv:ServiceLevelAgreement a kind of certificate, or a standard? -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-184 -- Is an dqv:ServiceLevelAgreement a kind of certificate, or a standard? -- open ←
13:49:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/184
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/184 ←
13:49:34 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:50:37 <annette_g> antoine: we got some good feedback from a friend of Peter's, David. Maybe he could give useful feedback on this issue.
Antoine Isaac: we got some good feedback from a friend of Peter's, David. Maybe he could give useful feedback on this issue. ←
13:51:16 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: we can link with terms from IT industry, like ITIL
Peter Winstanley: we can link with terms from IT industry, like ITIL ←
13:51:35 <annette_g> deirdrelee: is there any risk in limiting it to only a certificate or standard
Deirdre Lee: is there any risk in limiting it to only a certificate or standard ←
13:51:48 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: yes
Peter Winstanley: yes ←
13:52:29 <annette_g> … there's also something called a offering from the commerce side of things
… there's also something called a offering from the commerce side of things ←
13:52:34 <annette_g> from schema.org
from schema.org ←
13:52:45 <annette_g> it's basically a pitch
it's basically a pitch ←
13:53:16 <annette_g> antoine: If David can also weigh in on this, we should have enough info
Antoine Isaac: If David can also weigh in on this, we should have enough info ←
13:53:27 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: I'll see what I can do
Peter Winstanley: I'll see what I can do ←
13:54:00 <annette_g> deirdrelee: are you saying the offering is a subclass of standard?
Deirdre Lee: are you saying the offering is a subclass of standard? ←
13:54:03 <annette_g> antoine: no
Antoine Isaac: no ←
13:54:10 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:54:29 <annette_g> antoine: issue-185?
13:54:35 <deirdrelee> issue-185
13:54:35 <trackbot> issue-185 -- dqv:QualityAnnotation modeling issues -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-185 -- dqv:QualityAnnotation modeling issues -- open ←
13:54:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/185
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/185 ←
13:55:17 <annette_g> antoine: we are pretty much decided on this but we wanted to see if anyone has a strong opinion about it
Antoine Isaac: we are pretty much decided on this but we wanted to see if anyone has a strong opinion about it ←
13:55:39 <annette_g> silence ensues
silence ensues ←
13:55:57 <annette_g> deirdrelee: we can close it
Deirdre Lee: we can close it ←
13:56:11 <annette_g> * missed the number
* missed the number ←
13:56:22 <deirdrelee> we can close it before next publication, not yet
Deirdre Lee: we can close it before next publication, not yet ←
13:56:25 <deirdrelee> issue-186
13:56:25 <trackbot> issue-186 -- There might be no need for a subclass link between dqv:QualityMeasure and daq:Observation. I.e., we could re-use daq:Observation directly. -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-186 -- There might be no need for a subclass link between dqv:QualityMeasure and daq:Observation. I.e., we could re-use daq:Observation directly. -- open ←
13:56:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/186
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/186 ←
13:56:43 <annette_g> antoine: if we don't use DAQ directly, this is an easy one
Antoine Isaac: if we don't use DAQ directly, this is an easy one ←
13:57:30 <annette_g> deirdrelee: any feedback?
Deirdre Lee: any feedback? ←
13:57:32 <annette_g> silence ensues
silence ensues ←
13:58:07 <annette_g> deirdrelee: summarizes actions
Deirdre Lee: summarizes actions ←
13:58:28 <Caroline> q+ to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding
Caroline Burle: q+ to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding ←
13:58:54 <PeterWinstanley> q+
Peter Winstanley: q+ ←
13:59:04 <annette_g> Caroline: if anyone needs an invitation letter, just ask
Caroline Burle: if anyone needs an invitation letter, just ask ←
13:59:09 <deirdrelee> ack Caroline
Deirdre Lee: ack Caroline ←
13:59:09 <Zakim> Caroline, you wanted to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, you wanted to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding ←
13:59:20 <annette_g> * I can't come :(
* I can't come :( ←
13:59:26 <deirdrelee> ack PeterWinstanley
Deirdre Lee: ack PeterWinstanley ←
13:59:39 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: I distributed a couple pages on the template and suggestions for additions
Peter Winstanley: I distributed a couple pages on the template and suggestions for additions ←
13:59:46 <Caroline> that is sad annette_g :(
Caroline Burle: that is sad annette_g :( ←
14:00:05 <annette_g> 3 proposals: something to do with forces/tradeoffs, something about projected outcome, something about related patterns
3 proposals: something to do with forces/tradeoffs, something about projected outcome, something about related patterns ←
14:00:46 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: invites more feedback
Peter Winstanley: invites more feedback ←
14:01:13 <annette_g> deirdrelee: is there an issue that we can close?
Deirdre Lee: is there an issue that we can close? ←
14:01:13 <deirdrelee> action-184
14:01:13 <trackbot> action-184 -- Peter Winstanley to Review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the bp -- due 2015-07-17 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-184 -- Peter Winstanley to Review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the bp -- due 2015-07-17 -- OPEN ←
14:01:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/184
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/184 ←
14:01:22 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: well, we first need an agreement
Peter Winstanley: well, we first need an agreement ←
14:01:35 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: suggests we discuss next meeting
Peter Winstanley: suggests we discuss next meeting ←
14:02:04 <annette_g> deirdrelee: next week is DUV, I think.
Deirdre Lee: next week is DUV, I think. ←
14:02:12 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley: maybe week after
Peter Winstanley: maybe week after ←
14:02:36 <annette_g> although the template could work for other docs
although the template could work for other docs ←
14:02:47 <annette_g> deirdrelee: next week
Deirdre Lee: next week ←
14:02:53 <Caroline> bye!
Caroline Burle: bye! ←
14:02:56 <RiccardoAlbertoni> good weekend!
Riccardo Albertoni: good weekend! ←
14:02:57 <yaso> Bye!
Yaso Córdova: Bye! ←
14:02:58 <annette_g> Bye all!
Bye all! ←
14:02:59 <CarlosIglesias> BYE!
Carlos Iglesias: BYE! ←
14:02:59 <SumitPurohit> thanks
Sumit Purohit: thanks ←
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