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16:04:49 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Tzviya
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16:05:09 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose madi
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16:05:31 <mgylling> scribe: madi
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16:06:14 <madi> We'll be picking up from last week's meeting of reports
We'll be picking up from last week's meeting of reports ←
16:06:23 <madi> Last week's meeting have been approved.
Last week's meeting have been approved. ←
16:06:30 <tzviya> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Feb/0069.html
Tzviya Siegman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2014Feb/0069.html ←
16:06:36 <madi> Latin Req continues
Latin Req continues ←
16:06:37 <Zakim> +Suzanne_Taylor
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16:06:58 <tzviya> Latin Req http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pagination/index.html
Tzviya Siegman: Latin Req http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pagination/index.html ←
16:07:01 <madi> Examples of draft issues recently published.
Examples of drop cap issues recently published. ←
16:07:31 <tzviya> s/draft/drop cap
16:07:46 <madi> Today, we'll figure out the logistics of publishing and next steps after the draft is out.
Today, we'll figure out the logistics of publishing and next steps after the draft is out. ←
16:07:53 <madi> Identifying a common understanding
Identifying a common understanding ←
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16:08:08 <mgylling> q?
Markus Gylling: q? ←
16:08:30 <madi> Ivan commented on images that need fixing.
Ivan commented on images that need fixing. ←
16:08:47 <madi> markus: on to logistics
Markus Gylling: on to logistics ←
16:08:56 <madi> Ivan: first drafts are registered with a short name
Ivan: first drafts are registered with a short name ←
16:09:13 <madi> Ralph will be asked for a green light for Latin Req
Ralph will be asked for a green light for Latin Req ←
16:09:35 <madi> \A date will have to be agreed on; Tuesday and Thursdays. If agreed, send this to the webmaster.
\A date will have to be agreed on; Tuesday and Thursdays. If agreed, send this to the webmaster. ←
16:10:06 <madi> In practice for first time, let's agree that the document is ready one week before the publishing date. Thierry will place the document in its final place.
In practice for first time, let's agree that the document is ready one week before the publishing date. Thierry will place the document in its final place. ←
16:10:45 <madi> Editors will check details, links, etc.
Editors will check details, links, etc. ←
16:11:32 <madi> If we can agree on March 13, we should have the document ready this Thurs or Friday.
If we can agree on March 13, we should have the document ready this Thurs or Friday. ←
16:11:46 <madi> Publishing on March 13 is acceptable.
Publishing on March 13 is acceptable. ←
16:12:15 <azaroth> And to Rob too please for the annotation doc
Robert Sanderson: And to Rob too please for the annotation doc ←
16:13:07 <madi> Identifying final editors
Identifying final editors ←
16:15:11 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules
Ivan Herman: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/pubrules ←
16:15:17 <madi> Feedback welcome on the basic structure of the document
Feedback welcome on the basic structure of the document ←
16:16:05 <madi> Document will be ready by Thursday.
Document will be ready by Thursday. ←
16:16:20 <ivan> PROPOSED: publish latinreq on the 13
PROPOSED: publish latinreq WD on the 13th ←
16:16:21 <madi> From Ralph, we'll need a resolve to publish Latin Req.
From Ralph, we'll need a resolve to publish Latin Req. ←
16:16:23 <liza> Hooray!
16:16:30 <ivan> RESOLVED: publish latinreq on the 13
RESOLVED: publish latinreq WD on the 13th ←
16:16:36 <madi> Markus: Any rejections? No Resolved.
Markus Gylling: Any objections? No Resolved. ←
16:16:37 <Luc> well done!
Luc Audrain: well done! ←
16:17:28 <madi> Since the Annotations draft to the Implementation COmmunity Group, received some feedback.
Since the Annotations draft to the Implementation COmmunity Group, received some feedback. ←
16:17:40 <mgylling> s/rejections/objections
16:17:48 <madi> May be some more use cases from the Community Group.
May be some more use cases from the Community Group. ←
16:18:34 <madi> Annotations for Accessibility and Internationalisation added
Annotations for Accessibility and Internationalisation added ←
16:19:03 <madi> Use case of annotating complete phrases rather than enumeration's added
Use case of annotating complete phrases rather than enumeration's added ←
16:19:16 <madi> Ivan: this is very important. Very clear use case.
Ivan Herman: this is very important. Very clear use case. ←
16:19:38 <madi> After adding the two use cases, document would be ready to go.
After adding the two use cases, document would be ready to go. ←
16:20:03 <azaroth> http://www.openannotation.org/usecases.html
Robert Sanderson: http://www.openannotation.org/usecases.html ←
16:20:46 <azaroth> is the static version. The editor version is https://github.com/w3c/dpub-annotation
Robert Sanderson: is the static version. The editor version is https://github.com/w3c/dpub-annotation ←
16:21:02 <ivan> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-annotation/
Ivan Herman: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-annotation/ ←
16:21:25 <madi> Markus: Rob - the same timeline will be acceptable
Markus Gylling: Rob - the same timeline will be acceptable ←
16:21:34 <ivan> PROPOSED: publish ann use cases on the 13
PROPOSED: publish ann use cases on the 13 ←
16:21:35 <madi> First working draft of Use Cases - any objections?
First working draft of Use Cases - any objections? ←
16:21:38 <ivan> ...
Ivan Herman: ... ←
16:21:41 <liza> Hooray x2
16:21:46 <Luc> +1
Luc Audrain: +1 ←
16:21:46 <tzviya> :)
Tzviya Siegman: :) ←
16:21:46 <ivan> RESOLVED: publish ann use cases on the 13
RESOLVED: publish ann use cases WD on the 13th ←
16:21:53 <madi> Markus: Great! Resolved.
Markus Gylling: Great! Resolved. ←
16:22:09 <madi> Thierry will be doing work on both.
Thierry will be doing work on both. ←
16:22:21 <madi> Markus: moving on...
Markus Gylling: moving on... ←
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16:22:42 <madi> Agenda was too packed last week, so hereby extending the topic here
Agenda was too packed last week, so hereby extending the topic here
Tzviya Siegman: Behavioural UI discussion: 1) creating something that enables a system to do something interesting ←16:24:26 <madi> Tzviya: another we haven't gotten into, extending the ePub3 vocabulary to refine HTML to a books vocabulary
Tzviya Siegman: another we haven't gotten into, extending the ePub3 vocabulary to refine HTML to a books vocabulary ←
16:24:37 <madi> Possibly through an HTML extension
Possibly through an HTML extension ←
16:25:13 <madi> Tzviya: further refinements for messaging
Tzviya Siegman: further refinements for messaging ←
16:25:56 <madi> Markus: Category on adaptational styles for dynamically manipulating CSS
Markus Gylling: Category on adaptational styles for dynamically manipulating CSS ←
16:26:18 <mgylling> q?
Markus Gylling: q? ←
16:26:26 <madi> Tzviya: a lot of ways to readers want to manipulate content. Three players: Readers, Systems, and the Author
Tzviya Siegman: a lot of ways to readers want to manipulate content. Three players: Readers, Systems, and the Author ←
16:26:39 <madi> Must make sure the reader is still manipulable.
Must make sure the reader is still manipulable. ←
16:27:13 <madi> Scratch that. Readers are not manipulable.
Scratch that. Readers are not manipulable. ←
16:27:40 <madi> Markus: Multiple examples for dynamic manipulations with precision.
Markus Gylling: Multiple examples for dynamic manipulations with precision. ←
16:27:49 <madi> Tzviya: Yes, like colors.
Tzviya Siegman: Yes, like colors. ←
16:28:10 <madi> Markus: Those are the 2 or 3 threads circulating. You also mentioned that Use Cases are lacking
Markus Gylling: Those are the 2 or 3 threads circulating. You also mentioned that Use Cases are lacking ←
16:28:34 <madi> Tzviya: Yes. Short cut behaviour has not generated a lot of interest. There might be more with the others.
Tzviya Siegman: Yes. Short cut behaviour has not generated a lot of interest. There might be more with the others. ←
16:28:52 <madi> Aria?
Aria? ←
16:29:42 <madi> Tzviya: let's temporarily table the stage two, and get to structure and metadata with Aria (sp)
Tzviya Siegman: let's temporarily table the stage two, and get to structure and metadata with Aria (sp) ←
16:29:53 <madi> This is coming up with the eduPub group, so may work well.
This is coming up with the eduPub group, so may work well. ←
16:29:59 <liza> ARIA is right
16:30:10 <madi> Markus: CSS Style manipulation - anyone interested?
Markus Gylling: CSS Style manipulation - anyone interested? ←
16:30:27 <madi> Markus: Anyone with more examples?
Markus Gylling: Anyone with more examples? ←
16:30:49 <madi> Markus: One of the most common complaints regarding content in reading systems.
Markus Gylling: One of the most common complaints regarding content in reading systems. ←
16:31:03 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:31:15 <madi> Markus: Would be great to find to advocate a solution on this
Markus Gylling: Would be great to find to advocate a solution on this ←
16:31:29 <madi> CSS manipulation?
CSS manipulation? ←
16:31:43 <madi> Suzanne: Happy to contribute.
Suzanne Taylor: Happy to contribute. ←
16:33:08 <madi> Markus: to Tzviya ok to table the CSS stuff and continue to gain use cases to flesh out
Markus Gylling: to Tzviya ok to table the CSS stuff and continue to gain use cases to flesh out ←
16:33:30 <liza> Ahem
16:33:38 <madi> Markus: reading system developers are in the group: Google, Apple. They might provide guidance.
Markus Gylling: reading system developers are in the group: Google, Apple. They might provide guidance. ←
16:33:45 <ivan> q-
Ivan Herman: q- ←
16:33:52 <liam> /me q-
16:33:56 <madi> Madi notes:Safari
Madi notes:Safari ←
16:34:06 <liza> Hooray!
16:35:05 <madi> Does anyone know of any Service providers that have documented declarative extension of HTML5?
Does anyone know of any Service providers that have documented declarative extension of HTML5? ←
16:35:06 <Luc> q+
Luc Audrain: q+ ←
16:35:24 <mgylling> ack luc
Markus Gylling: ack luc ←
16:35:25 <madi> Need to understand what kind of extensions are available.
Need to understand what kind of extensions are available. ←
16:36:35 <madi> Tzviya: ARIA example
Tzviya Siegman: ARIA example ←
16:37:56 <madi> Markus to Tzviya: plan for the short term agreed
Markus to Tzviya: plan for the short term agreed ←
16:37:58 <mgylling> q?
Markus Gylling: q? ←
16:38:06 <madi> Any questions regarding behaviour?
Any questions regarding behaviour? ←
16:38:12 <madi> No questions
No questions ←
16:38:20 <madi> Next in line is Jean K
Next in line is Jean K ←
16:38:53 <madi> In the absence of Jean, anything we can do with STEM...
In the absence of Jean, anything we can do with STEM... ←
16:39:02 <madi> Table this for next week?
Table this for next week? ←
16:39:05 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:39:08 <madi> No objections.
No objections. ←
16:39:17 <madi> AOB?
AOB? ←
16:39:44 <madi> 2 documents that are planned for publication. Short name request. Please agree on short names that were proposed.
2 documents that are planned for publication. Short name request. Please agree on short names that were proposed. ←
16:39:56 <madi> for Annotations...will paste in IRC...
for Annotations...will paste in IRC... ←
16:39:56 <tmichel> dpub-annotation-uc/
Thierry Michel: dpub-annotation-uc/ ←
16:40:12 <azaroth> q+
Robert Sanderson: q+ ←
16:40:20 <ivan> q- later
Ivan Herman: q- later ←
16:40:31 <azaroth> q-
Robert Sanderson: q- ←
16:40:37 <madi> Markus: shouldn't reserve Annotation just to us, there are others.
Markus Gylling: shouldn't reserve Annotation just to us, there are others. ←
16:40:38 <tzviya> dpub-anno-uc?
Tzviya Siegman: dpub-anno-uc? ←
16:40:42 <mgylling> q?
Markus Gylling: q? ←
16:40:57 <madi> Ivan: keeping the dpub is good
Ivan Herman: keeping the dpub is good ←
16:41:06 <madi> Any objections to the short name for annotation?
Any objections to the short name for annotation? ←
16:41:08 <madi> Resolved.
Resolved. ←
16:41:12 <tmichel> dpub-pagination/
Thierry Michel: dpub-pagination/ ←
16:41:12 <tmichel> or dpub-latinreq/
Thierry Michel: or dpub-latinreq/ ←
16:41:24 <azaroth> dpub-latinreq-uc ?
Robert Sanderson: dpub-latinreq-uc ? ←
16:41:37 <azaroth> okay :)
Robert Sanderson: okay :) ←
16:41:38 <madi> LatinReq is preferred
LatinReq is preferred ←
16:42:12 <madi> latinereq - any objections?
16:42:41 <liza> dpub-latinreq
16:42:55 <madi> yes, dpub-latinreq
yes, dpub-latinreq ←
16:43:25 <madi> IVan: summer hours changing in Europe
Ivan Herman: summer hours changing in Europe ←
16:43:46 <liza> Technically, US changes
Liza Daly: Technically, US changes ←
16:43:54 <liza> but US meeting time does NOT change
Liza Daly: but US meeting time does NOT change ←
16:43:56 <madi> This weekend the times change in the US, not EUR
This weekend the times change in the US, not EUR ←
16:44:17 <madi> Markus: Anything else?
Markus Gylling: Anything else? ←
16:44:27 <madi> Markus: Thank you all.
Markus Gylling: Thank you all. ←
16:44:32 <Zakim> -Vlad
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16:44:34 <Zakim> -Suzanne_Taylor
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16:44:42 <Zakim> -madi
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16:44:48 <tmichel> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:44:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/03-dpub-minutes.html tmichel
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16:44:54 <Zakim> -gcapiel
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16:45:00 <Zakim> -Bert
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