IRC log of aapi on 2013-12-17

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RRSAgent, make logs member
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Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM scheduled to start now
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Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 17 December 2013
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WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM has now started
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+[Mozilla]
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+[GVoice]
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+ +1.650.773.aaaa
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zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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+Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
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zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
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zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
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+David_Bolter; got it
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zakim, aaaa is Bryan_Garaventa
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+Bryan_Garaventa; got it
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RRSAgent: make log public
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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chair: Joseph_Scheuhammer
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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zakim, who is on the phone?
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On the phone I see David_Bolter, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Bryan_Garaventa, Cynthia_Shelly
20:15:53 [asurkov]
hey, clown
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scribenick: clown
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Dec/0015.html
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Topic: Remaining 1.0 UAIG issues/actions
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
20:17:08 [asurkov]
hey, davidb, ok
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topic: issue-486
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issue-486?
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issue-486 -- UAIG has some MUST requirements that could only be tested in HTML 5, but 1) the ARIA spec is being tested only against HTML 4 and we prefer to do the same with UAIG, and 2) HTML 5 isn't complete; so we need to deal with this in the UAIG CR exit criteria n -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486
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DB: let's just close it.
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JS: No, there is a difference between the name calculation in the spec and the UAIG.
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JS: I think it's editorial.
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JS: But I think Michael wants to keep it open to make sure.
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JS: two differences.
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JS: one is an example of use of aria-labellbedby + aria-label
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JS: the other is a note about alt text and HTML5.
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issue-551?
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issue-551 -- When UAIG enters CR, we need to ask Director if we have to have 2 mappings to all platforms, or just demonstrate implementability of mapping via a sample and say all the mappings are therefore defined implementable -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/551
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topic: Issue-551.
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JS: the plan is to change the UIA menu event mappings to a SHOULD.
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JS: My mistake, not 551.
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CS: we marked the UIA column "at risk".
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+??P5
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/551
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JS: Michael, can we close this issue?
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MC: we have entered CR, and the director accepted the argument. We can close it.
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CS: 486 is also yours.
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MC: I think that was a simllar issue.
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MC: I think it is moot.
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MC: there is wording in the exit criteria.
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JS: close it?
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topci: 629
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topic: 629
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issue-629?
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issue-629 -- Unable to test ie11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of msaa column -- open
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629
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CS: there are outstanding bugs, but the blockage has been cleared.
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CS: We can test these items, and we have. There are bugs.
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CS: Just tracking down if the bugs are real.
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JS: We have cleared the list.
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MC: we can tackle the 1.1 product next, but we don't need to do that right now.
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Topic: CR publication of UAIG.
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https://twitter.com/w3c
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MC: It was announced today that the UAIG is now CR>
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s/CR>/CR./
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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BG: has the f2f agenda come out yet?
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MC: There is a draft, and discussions with Janina, but it isn't posted yet.
20:35:01 [davidb]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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-David_Bolter
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-Bryan_Garaventa
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zakim, please part
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.650.773.aaaa, Joseph_Scheuhammer, David_Bolter, Bryan_Garaventa, Cynthia_Shelly, Michael_Cooper
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'make mintues', clown. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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JS: Next meeting is Tue Jan 7 2014.
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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