IRC log of pf on 2013-11-18
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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- ok, trackbot, I see WAI_PFWG(ARIA)10:00AM already started
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- Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 18 November 2013
- 15:01:56 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- chair: Rich
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- RRSAgent, make log public
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- +??P4
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- -??P4
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- +??P4
- 15:02:20 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus
- 15:02:23 [janina]
- zakim, ??P4 is me
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- +janina; got it
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- +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
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- +[GVoice]
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- zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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- +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
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- zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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- ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
- 15:15:02 [janina]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2013Nov/0038.html
- 15:17:11 [janina]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2013Nov/0037.html
- 15:27:33 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- scribe: Janina
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2013Nov/0045.html
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- topic: UAIG Items
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- rs: Any actions or issues?
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- js: No, no mtg last week because of TPAC
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- s/js/clown/
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- rs: Need to discuss some last tests ...
- 15:30:45 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testreport?testsuite_id=2&filter_invalid=on&filter_required=on&filter=Filter+view
- 15:31:15 [janina]
- clown: JC notes "waiting on bug fixes"
- 15:31:33 [janina]
- rs: AT-SpPI has nothing to test except for a focus event
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- clown: Unclear from report page that there's nothing to test, it's just blank, should say "NA"
- 15:34:21 [janina]
- rs: IE11 not even generating focus event, so table will never pass
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- rs: Have they transitioned to UIA? We don't know, haven't been told
- 15:35:29 [janina]
- rs: We have the UIA column, but no info about it
- 15:36:13 [janina]
- rs: On line docs only refer to Win8
- 15:36:35 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
- 15:41:36 [janina]
- rs: Would like to know what they're actually mapping
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- rs: Wondering whether webkit bugs will be resolved in time for CR exit?
- 15:47:31 [janina]
- rs: We have 2 implementations everywhere except these menu events
- 15:50:31 [clown]
- proposal: In IE11, the focus events disappeared under Win7 using Tooling. How to test? Also, do not see MSAA+UIExpress menu events. How do we test?
- 15:52:31 [clown]
- issue: Unable to test IE11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of MSAA column
- 15:52:31 [trackbot]
- Created ISSUE-629 - Unable to test ie11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of msaa column. Please complete additional details at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629/edit>.
- 15:55:35 [clown]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629
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- #aapi
- 15:58:22 [janina]
- topic: SVG2
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- rs: Now pointing to ARIA-1.1 in order to pickup Describedat
- 15:59:08 [janina]
- rs: On all elements that Describedby supports
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- topic: ARIA-1.1
- 16:06:23 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
- 16:06:30 [janina]
- issue-398?
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- issue-398 -- Errata: aria-setsize and aria-posinset should apply to more than just listitem and option -- open
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
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- rs: Ah, I see it's covered. Good!
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- issue-464?
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- issue-464 -- Allow aria-haspopup on more roles -- open
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/464
- 16:08:29 [clown]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2011OctDec/0054.html
- 16:08:30 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- http://www.w3.org/2011/10/17-pf-minutes.html
- 16:09:09 [janina]
- clown: This is bubble-help
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- clown: Suggested Ctrl-F1 in dhtml guide -- but JN asks "How does the user know?" -- Discoverability
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- rs: haspopup becomes confusing
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- mk: dialog being handled well
- 16:11:58 [janina]
- mk: primarily a kybd access issue
- 16:13:16 [janina]
- mk: They are content, can be anything, e.g. business card at IBM
- 16:18:42 [janina]
- rs: Maybe better for IndieUI
- 16:20:58 [clown]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/
- 16:31:19 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- rich: this has moved to Indie UI issue 17: https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/issues/17
- 16:31:42 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- Resolution: Close issue 464
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/18-pf-minutes.html richardschwerdtfeger
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.541.678.aaaa, janina, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joseph_Scheuhammer
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- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/18-pf-minutes.html richardschwerdtfeger
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