IRC log of mbui on 2013-10-04

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meeting: Model-Based UI
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scribe: Dave
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scribenick: dsr
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chair: Gerrit
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Present+ Laufer, Joelle, Heiko, Dave
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Present+ Vivian
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Present+ Cristina, Javier, Paolo
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Present+ Davide
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Regrets: Gerrit
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Topic: AUI schema
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Davide: I've sent a copy of the schema to Vivian, and reviewed the structure with Paolo.
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... I can send the XSD to the list if that would be helpful?
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Dave: please do
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Vivian: I've received the schema.
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Paolo: the schema should go in the appendix for the AUI FPWD.
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Dave: do we want to give everyone a chance to review the schema?
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... suggest we give until next week's call and then formally resolve to publish.
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Vivian: that's fine with me
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... I can also link it from the wiki
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Paolo has a technical comment.
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Regrets+ Jaroslav
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Regrets+ Gaelle
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Vivian: I will update the AUI metamodel diagram as per Paolo's comment and send the new version.
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Paolo has a small correction to the text description relating to the terms used.
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Paolo: it isn't so much about the wording as about the structure.
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Dave: what changes do we need to apply to the draft specification?
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Vivian: so we keep the terms we use and drop the ones we don't
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Davide: we should put in the related work, a two line description, e.g. MARIA has been defined in that paper, ...
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Paolo: we have the introductory document, so it would be best to keep this brief.
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Vivian volunteers to provide an updated version of the draft.
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Action: Vivian to provide updated AUI draft before Oct 10 telecon
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Topic: Introduction document
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Joelle: a number of people have made changes as per the last telecon.
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... refers to some work done at the Munich face to face (2 figures)
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... asks Vivian to check the references to the figures
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... we re-used the figure from the car rental document as it is very generic and would be good at the start of the intro doc.
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... please check if you agree with that
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Joelle: use case 3 still needs work.
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... Paolo has updated use case 4, so that's fine
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... use case 5 (post wimp), I think it needs more work
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Fabio: Sebastian owns that one, but he is in transit to Europe
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Joelle: I can send Sebastian an email stating what changes we are expecting
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... use case 6, Gerrit isn't here, but it seems that this one is fine.
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... use case 7, we've shortened this
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... we also split what was UC7 into two, thereby creating UC8
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Paolo: I will put the correct reference
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Fabio: UC8 has black and white figures, could we have colour?
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Joelle: I have the coloured originals if everyone wants them?
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Vivian: Figure 8.2 the right one is unclear as it is, colour would help
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Paolo: the other figures are in colour, so it would be consistent to use colour
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Joelle: alright, we will make the change
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Topic: Glossary
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Dave: Jaroslav is at a meeting in Ireland today and can't attend the call.
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Joelle: I have some small changes I would like to make
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... in particular to "interaction modality" and relation to human perception
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Fabio suggests referring to the literature to see what others have defined this as
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Joelle: Fabio is right, we should look at what Oviat said, and come back to this next week
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Fabio: now we have "interaction modality" and "multimodality"
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Joelle: asks Fabio to check up on the literature and come back with a proposal.
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Fabio: sure, I can do that
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Joelle: migratory UI ...
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Fabio: we use migratory UI when the state is preserved when moving the UI from one device to another, and distributed UI when multiple devices play a role in the UI
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(scribe didn't get that quite right)
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Fabio: we further distinguish between multiple and distributed.
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... I will take an action to post an email with the definitions
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UW_MBUI()6:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +55213527aaaa, Dsr, +1.321.047.aabb, +33.4.76.41.aacc, [IPcaller], +39.050.621.aadd
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Action: Fabio to provide definitions clarifying distinctions between migratory, multiple and distributed UIs
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