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20:01:23 <jamesn> meeting: HTML5 & ARIA techniques TF
20:01:30 <jamesn> zakim, this will be 9224
20:01:30 <Zakim> ok, jamesn; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start now
20:01:32 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
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20:03:12 <Zakim> +[Google]
20:03:30 <jamesn> zakim, Google is Loretta
20:03:30 <Zakim> +Loretta; got it
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20:05:29 <jamesn> zakim, AndyS is Adam_Solomon
20:05:29 <Zakim> +Adam_Solomon; got it
20:05:55 <jamesn> regrets Alan_Smith
20:06:01 <jamesn> chair: Loretta
20:06:33 <jamesn> scribe: jamesn
20:11:31 <adam_solomon> im gone for 5 minutes
20:14:55 <marcjohlic> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-describedby_to_provide_descriptions_of_objects
20:16:46 <adam_solomon> back
20:17:55 <jamesn> Do we merge ARIA1 & http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-describedby_to_provide_descriptions_of_objects
20:18:47 <jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-describedby_for_link_purpose
20:23:00 <Zakim> -Adam_Solomon
20:23:12 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:23:35 <adam_solomon> zakim, IPcaller is adam_solomon
20:23:35 <Zakim> +adam_solomon; got it
20:25:30 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_landmarks_to_identify_regions_of_a_page
20:27:47 <jamesn> ARIA1 Actions - drop example 2, move examples 2,3 & 4 if applicable from http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-describedby_to_provide_descriptions_of_objects to ARIA1
20:28:18 <jamesn> leave http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-describedby_to_provide_descriptions_of_objects as one dealing with "long descriptions" of images
20:31:17 <jamesn> change title to "ARIA1: Using the aria-describedby property to provide a descriptive label for user interface controls"
20:32:33 <marcjohlic> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/ARIA1:_Using_the_aria-describedby_property_to_provide_a_descriptive_label_for_user_interface_controls
20:33:05 <jamesn> drop 2.4.4 from the applicability
20:41:47 <jamesn> <p><span class="left" id="fontDesc" >Select the font faces and sizes to be used on this page</span>
20:41:47 <jamesn>  <span class="right"><button id="fontB" onclick="doAction('Fonts');" aria-describedby="fontDesc">
20:41:47 <jamesn>  Fonts </button></span></p>
20:43:13 <jamesn> <live editing ARIA-1>
20:46:11 <Zakim> -adam_solomon
20:54:56 <jamesn> Resolutions: move aria1 to be reviewed by WCAG
20:55:09 <jamesn> accept changes to aria3 and move to wcag review
20:57:32 <marcjohlic> "Access a page that contains mandatory form field(s) using the aria-required property "
21:01:18 <jamesn> Note 2: At this time, WAI-ARIA is a Working Draft. This technique is provided as an advisory technique for organizations that wish to experiment with achieving WCAG conformance using WAI-ARIA. When WAI-ARIA becomes a formal specification and is supported in user agents, it is anticipated that this technique will become a sufficient technique.
21:01:19 <Zakim> -Paul_Adam
21:01:27 <jamesn> Note 1: The fact that the element is required is often visually presented (such as a sign or symbol after the control). Using the aria-required property in addition to the visual presentation makes it much easier for user agents to pass on this important information to the user in a user agent-specific manner. Refer to Supporting ARIA in XHTML and HTML 4.01 for information on how to provide WAI-ARIA States and Properties with XHTML and HTML. WAI-ARI
21:01:27 <jamesn> A States and Properties is compatible with other languages as well; refer to documentation in those languages.
21:01:45 <jamesn> Note 1: The fact that the element is required is often visually presented (such as a sign or symbol after the control). Using the aria-required property in addition to the visual presentation makes it much easier for user agents to pass on this important information to the user in a user agent-specific manner.
21:01:56 <Zakim> -Loretta
21:02:05 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:02:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see James_Nurthen, Marc_Johlic
21:11:53 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
21:11:55 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
21:11:55 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:11:55 <Zakim> Attendees were Paul_Adam, James_Nurthen, Loretta, Marc_Johlic, Adam_Solomon
21:11:58 <jamesn> zakim, please part
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