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14:58:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
14:58:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 58 minutes ago
14:58:48 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:58:48 <trackbot> Date: 04 April 2013
14:58:54 <chaals> agenda+ Identify scribe - 2 minutes
14:58:54 <chaals> agenda+ New Staff Introduction - 3 minutes
14:58:54 <chaals> agenda+ Longdesc Review and bugs <http://clck.ru/8c5Dw> - 4 minutes
14:58:54 <chaals> agenda+ Upcoming HTML & PF F2F <http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda> - 4 minutes
14:58:55 <chaals> agenda+ TF publication process <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html> - 2 minutes
14:58:55 <chaals> agenda+ Text subteam Bugs - 10 - 15 minutes
14:58:55 <chaals> agenda+ Encrypted Media Extensions specification, video captions, DRM... - the rest
14:59:01 <chaals> zakim, agenda?
14:59:01 <Zakim> I see 18 items remaining on the agenda:
14:59:02 <Zakim> 1. Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List [from janina]
14:59:02 <Zakim> 2. New Staff Introduction [from janina]
14:59:02 <Zakim> 3. Upcoming HTML & PF F2F http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda [from janina]
14:59:02 <Zakim> 4. Longdesc Review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2013JanMar/0148.html [from janina]
14:59:03 <Zakim> 5. TF Publication Process http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html [from janina]
14:59:03 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:59:04 <Zakim> 6. Text Bugs (Continued) [from janina]
14:59:04 <Zakim> 7. Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping; [from janina]
14:59:04 <Zakim> 8. Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open [from janina]
14:59:04 <Zakim> 9. Other Business [from janina]
14:59:04 <Zakim> 10. Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List [from janina]
14:59:04 <Zakim> 11. be done [from janina]
14:59:04 <Zakim> 12. Identify scribe - 2 minutes [from chaals]
14:59:05 <Zakim> 13. New Staff Introduction - 3 minutes [from chaals]
14:59:05 <Zakim> 14. Longdesc Review and bugs <http://clck.ru/8c5Dw> - 4 minutes [from chaals]
14:59:05 <Zakim> 15. Upcoming HTML & PF F2F <http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda> - 4 minutes [from chaals]
14:59:05 <Zakim> 16. TF publication process <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html> - 2 minutes [from chaals]
14:59:06 <Zakim> 17. Text subteam Bugs - 10 - 15 minutes [from chaals]
14:59:07 <Zakim> 18. Encrypted Media Extensions specification, video captions, DRM... - the rest [from chaals]
14:59:07 <Zakim> apparently WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has ended, janina
14:59:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, paulc, MarkS, davidb, darobin, chaals, IanPouncey, janina, MichaelC, Zakim, hober, trackbot
14:59:15 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 1
14:59:15 <Zakim> agendum 1, Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
14:59:17 <Zakim> I see 17 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:17 <Zakim> 2. New Staff Introduction [from janina]
14:59:17 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has now started
14:59:22 <Zakim> +Mark_Sadecki
14:59:36 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 2
14:59:36 <Zakim> agendum 2, New Staff Introduction, closed
14:59:37 <Zakim> I see 16 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:37 <Zakim> 3. Upcoming HTML & PF F2F http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda [from janina]
14:59:40 <Zakim> +Judy
14:59:44 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 3
14:59:44 <Zakim> agendum 3, Upcoming HTML & PF F2F http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda, closed
14:59:47 <Zakim> I see 15 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:47 <Zakim> 4. Longdesc Review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2013JanMar/0148.html [from janina]
14:59:48 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 4
14:59:48 <Zakim> agendum 4, Longdesc Review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2013JanMar/0148.html, closed
14:59:48 <Zakim> I see 14 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:48 <Zakim> 5. TF Publication Process http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html [from janina]
14:59:50 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 5
14:59:51 <Zakim> agendum 5, TF Publication Process http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html, closed
14:59:51 <Zakim> I see 13 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:51 <Zakim> 6. Text Bugs (Continued) [from janina]
14:59:52 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 6
14:59:53 <Zakim> agendum 6, Text Bugs (Continued), closed
14:59:53 <Zakim> I see 12 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:53 <Zakim> 7. Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping; [from janina]
14:59:54 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 7
14:59:54 <Zakim> agendum 7, Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; AAPI Mapping;, closed
14:59:55 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:55 <Zakim> 8. Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open [from janina]
14:59:56 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 8
14:59:56 <Zakim> agendum 8, Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open, closed
14:59:58 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 9
14:59:58 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:58 <Zakim> 9. Other Business [from janina]
14:59:58 <Zakim> agendum 9, Other Business, closed
14:59:58 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:58 <Zakim> 10. Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List [from janina]
15:00:00 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 10
15:00:01 <Zakim> agendum 10, Identify Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List, closed
15:00:01 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:00:01 <Zakim> 11. be done [from janina]
15:00:04 <chaals> zakim, close agendum 11
15:00:04 <Zakim> agendum 11, be done, closed
15:00:05 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:00:05 <Zakim> 12. Identify scribe - 2 minutes [from chaals]
15:00:06 <Zakim> +??P12
15:00:15 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:00:29 <chaals> zakim, next agendum
15:00:29 <Zakim> agendum 12. "Identify scribe - 2 minutes" taken up [from chaals]
15:00:49 <Zakim> + +1.661.748.aaaa
15:00:50 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
15:00:50 <Zakim> the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
15:00:51 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:00:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mark_Sadecki, Judy, ??P12, [IPcaller], +1.661.748.aaaa
15:01:02 <janina> zakim, ??P12 is Janina
15:01:02 <Zakim> +Janina; got it
15:01:08 <janina> zakim, IPcaller is Leonie
15:01:08 <Zakim> +Leonie; got it
15:01:24 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:01:32 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:01:32 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:01:39 <chaals> Chaals: anyone prepared to Scribe
15:01:40 <Zakim> +markw
15:01:42 <LJWatson> LJWatson has joined #html-a11y
15:01:59 <chaals> zakim, who is making noise
15:02:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise', chaals
15:02:21 <Zakim> - +1.661.748.aaaa
15:02:51 <Zakim> +??P24
15:02:52 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P24 is Michael_Cooper
15:02:52 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
15:03:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:03:26 <chaals1> chaals1 has joined #html-a11y
15:03:34 <IanPouncey> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
15:03:34 <Zakim> +IanPouncey; got it
15:03:59 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
15:04:01 <Zakim> +hober
15:04:15 <Zakim> + +34.67.214.aabb
15:04:59 <JF> JF has joined #html-a11y
15:05:20 <chaals1> zakim, choose a victim
15:05:20 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose markw
15:05:41 <chaals1> zakim, next agendum
15:05:41 <Zakim> agendum 13. "New Staff Introduction - 3 minutes" taken up [from chaals]
15:05:50 <LJWatson> scribe: Léonie Watson
15:06:13 <LJWatson> CMN: Welcome to Mark.
15:06:34 <LJWatson> JB: Mark will be staff contact specifically for the HTML A11y TF.
15:07:04 <MarkS> ack Mark
15:07:08 <chaals1> chaals1 has changed the topic to: #html-a11y HTML Accessibility Task Force. Meets thursday 11am Boston time, http://list.w3.org/Archive/Public/public-html-a11y
15:07:32 <chaals1> zakim, aabb is me
15:07:32 <Zakim> +chaals1; got it
15:07:44 <chaals1> zakim, who is making noise?
15:07:56 <chaals1> zakim, who is here?
15:07:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mark_Sadecki, Judy, Janina, Leonie, paulc, markw, Michael_Cooper, IanPouncey, John_Foliot, hober, chaals1
15:07:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see JF, chaals1, LJWatson, RRSAgent, paulc, MarkS, davidb, darobin, IanPouncey, janina, MichaelC, Zakim, hober, trackbot
15:07:58 <Zakim> chaals1, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Mark_Sadecki (95%)
15:08:09 <Zakim> +Judy.a
15:08:10 <LJWatson> MS: Would welcome anyone who'd like to schedule a call with me to give me some background.
15:08:10 <Zakim> -Judy
15:08:28 <LJWatson> JB: We're thrilled you're here.
15:08:37 <LJWatson> +1 Welcome to Mark
15:09:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:10:31 <LJWatson> Welcomes and introductions from members of the TF present on the call.
15:11:03 <chaals1> zakim, next item
15:11:03 <Zakim> agendum 14. "Longdesc Review and bugs <http://clck.ru/8c5Dw> - 4 minutes" taken up [from chaals]
15:11:11 <Zakim> -hober
15:11:49 <Steve> Steve has joined #html-a11y
15:11:52 <LJWatson> CMN: We have a WAI IG review in progress. Roughly 10 open bugs. Some are tricky.
15:12:40 <Judy> Judy has joined #html-a11y
15:13:41 <LJWatson> CMN: Three in particular - One suggests raising longdesc from "should" to "must", another suggests UA behaviour when the longdesc is pointless, and a third discusses images like stock photography.
15:14:37 <chaals1> zakim, agenda
15:14:37 <Zakim> I don't understand 'agenda', chaals1
15:14:45 <chaals1> zakim, agenda?
15:14:45 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
15:14:46 <Zakim> 14. Longdesc Review and bugs <http://clck.ru/8c5Dw> - 4 minutes [from chaals]
15:14:46 <Zakim> 15. Upcoming HTML & PF F2F <http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda> - 4 minutes [from chaals]
15:14:46 <Zakim> 16. TF publication process <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html> - 2 minutes [from chaals]
15:14:46 <Zakim> 17. Text subteam Bugs - 10 - 15 minutes [from chaals]
15:14:46 <Zakim> 18. Encrypted Media Extensions specification, video captions, DRM... - the rest [from chaals]
15:15:54 <LJWatson> JS: Could we filter by enhancement versus what HTML4 already provided?
15:16:33 <LJWatson> CMN: In the days of HTML4 specs tended to be more loose. Substantive issues tend to be the things left undefined then.
15:16:52 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:16:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:17:50 <chaals1> zakim, next item?
15:17:50 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, chaals1.
15:18:01 <chaals1> zakim, next agendum
15:18:01 <Zakim> agendum 15. "Upcoming HTML & PF F2F <http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda> - 4 minutes" taken up [from chaals]
15:19:21 <LJWatson> CMN: The presentation role may be a topic at the F2F. Paul requests that topic suggestions are sent to the HTML WG, topics for Web App Sec should go to that WG.
15:20:05 <LJWatson> PC: When would you like to focus on a11y topics, so it fits with time on PF topics?
15:20:33 <LJWatson> JS: PF has a fairly full agenda.
15:20:47 <LJWatson> JS: We'll know more closer to the meeting time.
15:21:08 <LJWatson> PC: Registeration closes tomorrow.
15:21:15 <LJWatson> JS: I should be more informed next week.
15:21:49 <JF> Suggest revisiting the transcript issue with the larger group
15:21:52 <LJWatson> PC; Sent a note to our host, had a request from the Media TF to break out discussions on topics that might not involve everyone.
15:22:26 <LJWatson> PC: Janina could consider adding topics to the Tuesday agenda, then looking at a breakout session?
15:22:36 <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
15:22:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:22:47 <chaals1> zakim, who is making noise?
15:22:57 <Zakim> chaals1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Janina (60%), paulc (5%), John_Foliot (84%)
15:23:09 <chaals1> zakim, mute john_foliot
15:23:09 <Zakim> John_Foliot should now be muted
15:23:41 <LJWatson> CMN: Do you run your agenda unconference style?
15:24:12 <LJWatson> PC: Yes. Given that most PF people won't be there until Wednesday, it's important for us to know what a11y topics need to be discussed.
15:24:55 <LJWatson> CMN: I'll be there from Tuesday 9am, so envisage actively taking part in that process.
15:25:17 <chaals1> zakim, next agendum
15:25:17 <Zakim> agendum 16. "TF publication process <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html> - 2 minutes" taken up [from chaals]
15:25:59 <chaals1> zakim, next agendum
15:25:59 <Zakim> agendum 16 was just opened, chaals1
15:26:05 <markw> markw has joined #html-a11y
15:26:10 <LJWatson> CMN: Process for producing TF deliverables published on the wiki. Please take a look and feedback.
15:26:17 <chaals1> zakim, agenda?
15:26:17 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
15:26:18 <Zakim> 16. TF publication process <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html> - 2 minutes [from chaals]
15:26:18 <Zakim> 17. Text subteam Bugs - 10 - 15 minutes [from chaals]
15:26:18 <Zakim> 18. Encrypted Media Extensions specification, video captions, DRM... - the rest [from chaals]
15:26:20 <markw> Zakim, who is on the phone ?
15:26:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mark_Sadecki, Janina, Leonie, paulc, markw, Michael_Cooper, IanPouncey, John_Foliot (muted), chaals1, Judy.a, [IPcaller]
15:26:45 <chaals1> zakim, take up agendum 18
15:26:45 <Zakim> agendum 18. "Encrypted Media Extensions specification, video captions, DRM... - the rest" taken up [from chaals]
15:26:55 <chaals1> zakim, close agendum 12
15:26:55 <Zakim> agendum 12, Identify scribe - 2 minutes, closed
15:26:56 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:26:56 <Zakim> 16. TF publication process <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html> - 2 minutes [from chaals]
15:27:07 <chaals1> zakim, close agendum 16
15:27:07 <Zakim> agendum 16, TF publication process <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Mar/0080.html> - 2 minutes, closed
15:27:09 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:27:09 <Zakim> 17. Text subteam Bugs - 10 - 15 minutes [from chaals]
15:27:16 <chaals1> zakim, close agendum 17
15:27:16 <Zakim> agendum 17, Text subteam Bugs - 10 - 15 minutes, closed
15:27:17 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:27:17 <Zakim> 18. Encrypted Media Extensions specification, video captions, DRM... - the rest [from chaals]
15:28:14 <Zakim> +smiles
15:28:23 <Zakim> -chaals1
15:28:25 <LJWatson> MW: The idea of the Encrypted Media Extension is to produce a common API.
15:28:31 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
15:29:10 <JF> scribe: JF
15:29:14 <chaals> scribe: JohnF
15:29:29 <Zakim> -Leonie
15:29:31 <JF> MW: the EME is all in the context of the <video> element in HTML5
15:29:48 <Zakim> +[Apple]
15:29:53 <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
15:29:53 <Zakim> +hober; got it
15:30:00 <JF> MW: there have been a number of discussions WRT to captions and DRM
15:30:12 <JF> not much mentioned in this topic
15:30:43 <David_> David_ has joined #html-a11y
15:30:43 <JF> do not have any encrypted captions at this time, but there have been some questions around captions inside of the media wrapper
15:30:51 <JF> Q?
15:30:56 <JF> Q+
15:31:05 <janina> q?
15:31:05 <paulc> q+
15:31:17 <janina> q+
15:31:20 <Judy> q?
15:31:39 <JF> zakim, unmute me
15:31:39 <Zakim> sorry, JF, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:32:50 <chaals> ack jf
15:32:50 <chaals> acj john_foliot
15:32:50 <chaals> unmute john_foliot
15:32:50 <chaals> q- JF later
15:32:50 <chaals> ack paul
15:33:09 <paulc> q-
15:33:39 <Zakim> +chaals1
15:33:49 <Zakim> -smiles
15:34:31 <chaals> JF: Are transcripts and audio descriptions going to be things that content owners will want to have protected?
15:35:14 <Judy> q+
15:36:11 <chaals> q+ to ask how the spec handles different requirements on different parts of content - does it allow for tracks with different CDMs?
15:36:41 <chaals> JF: My concern is that we don't arrive at the last minute and discover tehre are lots of questions - so I am looking for some help in formulating it.
15:36:52 <janina> q?
15:37:27 <chaals> MW: [earlier answer] Don't know. THink it is important for people who want to know that to join teh technical work.
15:37:31 <chaals> ack jan
15:37:32 <JF> JS: wanted to explore that idea, but from a slightly different perspective
15:37:46 <Zakim> -chaals1
15:37:55 <JF> suggest we revisit the existing specifications to understand terminology
15:38:08 <JF> appears that captions and subtitles are used interchangibly
15:38:11 <Zakim> +chaals1
15:38:27 <chaals> zakim, chaals1 is me
15:38:27 <Zakim> +chaals; got it
15:38:46 <JF> seemed that very few people had an understanding of the other types of requirements (extended descriptions, etc.)
15:39:02 <JF> so we should be careful that we are using correct terminology
15:39:44 <JF> JS: we should also check back with our contacts who develop these types of alternatives to see if this topic has hit their radar as well
15:40:18 <JF> JS: did have one other range of concerns, wrt the controls, and want to confirm that they remain outside of this discussion
15:40:19 <chaals> zakim, mute john_foliot
15:40:19 <Zakim> John_Foliot should now be muted
15:40:35 <JF> MW: correct, this should have no impact on the controls
15:40:41 <David_> q+
15:40:59 <JF> this should be more clearly called out in the EME spec
15:41:50 <JF> MW: there is the ability to apply CSS transformations to <video>, but that might be restricted in DRM'ed content
15:42:24 <chaals> [/me notes that there are also users who are trying to enforce "moral right" - restrictions on use of their content, and we can expect them to consider this a feature]
15:42:28 <Judy> q?
15:42:28 <chaals> ack judy
15:43:03 <JF> JB: in some settings, DRM settings have been known to interpret Screen Readers as an "attack"
15:43:38 <JF> what I am hearing here however is that this is likely not the case here. Looking to get some form of confirmation that this is not something we would be concerned with here
15:43:58 <JF> MW: not convinced of this yet, as I do not have a full understanding of the SR technologies
15:45:04 <JF> JB: if it turns out that this is a risk, it will become a high priority issue for us to address
15:45:19 <JF> so making sure that access to caption and video description streams is important
15:45:40 <JF> MW: to my understanding, those devices need access to the raw video stream?
15:45:57 <JF> JS: historic problem arose from accessing the text that had been encrypted
15:46:33 <JF> if a SR is your "eyes" and that text was encrypted, then the screen reader was perceived as an attack
15:47:16 <JF> I don't see this as the same issue if the data is a video stream, but if the alternative representations are encrytped then the issues will likely remain
15:47:27 <JF> we have some bugs in general about media controls
15:49:03 <JF> MW: back to the screen readers, I think there are 3 tech. possibilities" 1) delivered in the clear, 2) within the multi-plex delivery, 3) encrypted captions could be rendered in the DRM system to be rendered on the screen (??)
15:49:12 <JF> we have not address those in the spec at this time
15:49:30 <paulc> q+
15:49:42 <JF> the first 2 appear clear, and to date no-one has come forward with a request for the third
15:50:02 <JF> MW: if we feel that in the future that it does surface, then we would need to look at that
15:50:07 <chaals> ack me
15:50:07 <Zakim> chaals, you wanted to ask how the spec handles different requirements on different parts of content - does it allow for tracks with different CDMs?
15:50:19 <chaals> ack dav
15:50:26 <chaals> q+
15:50:28 <JF> However as Janina has noted, it would be a lot simpler if the support files remained in the clear
15:50:47 <JF> DM: can't imagine why content owners wouldn't want to encrypt those files
15:51:00 <JF> CMM: there are a lot of content owners who don't do this today
15:51:05 <chaals> ack pau
15:51:28 <JF> MW: this is the case at netflix, where videos are encrypted but not caption files
15:51:40 <JF> PC: this might be a topic to add to the F2F agenda
15:51:55 <JF> the EME folk have asked for a 90 minute slot
15:52:07 <chaals> ack me
15:52:20 <JF> thus asking these questions to the larger group may surface other responses [sic]
15:52:43 <JF> CMM: don't know why we can't squeeze these into the same 90 minutes
15:53:05 <JF> PC: a lot of the existing EME bugs are quite complex
15:53:48 <JF> CMM: if you have the video element and a track element, then can you apply the DRM to the media and not the track?
15:54:20 <janina> q+
15:54:36 <JF> MW: this is the idea. This might need to be made clearer in the draft spec
15:54:55 <JF> Q+
15:55:54 <chaals> ack jan
15:56:19 <JF> JS: David macDonald's question is quite valid
15:56:29 <JF> we have had this problem in the past
15:57:37 <chaals> ack jf
15:57:41 <JF> zakim, unmute John_Foliot
15:57:41 <Zakim> John_Foliot should no longer be muted
15:57:55 <paulc> I need to go to get ready to Chair the WG meeting
15:57:59 <chaals> zakim, please close the q
15:57:59 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please close the q', chaals
15:58:08 <chaals> zakim, please close the queue
15:58:08 <Zakim> ok, chaals, the speaker queue is closed
15:59:06 <chaals> zakim, mute john_foliot
15:59:06 <Zakim> John_Foliot should now be muted
15:59:36 <JF> CMM: reached the end. Would like to thank Mark for coming to explain this topic further
15:59:58 <Zakim> -hober
16:00:03 <Zakim> -markw
16:00:04 <JF> there are a large number of things still to be addressed, so please follow the mailing list carefully
16:00:05 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
16:00:05 <Zakim> -Janina
16:00:06 <Zakim> -Judy.a
16:00:06 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:00:07 <Zakim> -Mark_Sadecki
16:00:08 <Zakim> -IanPouncey
16:00:11 <Zakim> -chaals
16:00:28 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
16:00:37 <JF> rrsagent, make logs public
16:00:43 <Zakim> -paulc
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16:00:45 <JF> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:00:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-html-a11y-minutes.html JF
16:01:12 <JF> zakim, please part
16:01:12 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Mark_Sadecki, Judy, +1.661.748.aaaa, Janina, Leonie, paulc, markw, Michael_Cooper, IanPouncey, John_Foliot, hober, +34.67.214.aabb,
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16:01:15 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller], smiles, David_MacDonald, chaals
16:01:20 <JF> rrsagent, please part
16:01:20 <RRSAgent> I see no action items