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12:59:40 <daveL> chair: daveL
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13:01:41 <fsasaki> meeting: MLW-LT WG
13:02:05 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0064.html
13:02:11 <fsasaki> chair: dave
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13:02:46 <fsasaki> daveL, dF, can you make sure that http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0077.html is taken into account today? I can't be on the call but will watch on IRC. Thanks
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13:03:35 <dF> Thanks, Felix, sure the WD publication is our priority
13:04:12 <dF> I just want to confirm, the link you sent earlier today
13:04:14 <dF> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/mlw-metadata-uc-impl/mlw-metadata-us-impl-wiki2spec.html
13:04:25 <dF> is it the TR form?
13:04:51 <dF> or is the note that you are going to transorm wiki after approval still relevant?
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13:05:11 <fsasaki> hi dF, that is what I will use for the publication. But you can send to the chairs list whatever you want - I will then adapt http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/mlw-metadata-uc-impl/mlw-metadata-us-impl-wiki2spec.html following your mail to the chairs list
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13:06:31 <kfritsche> scribe: kfritsche
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13:07:38 <kfritsche> daveL: checking attendance
13:07:49 <daveL> roll call: ankit, christian, dave, david, felix, karl, naoto, shaun, yves
13:08:03 <daveL> roll call: phil, olaf
13:08:18 <daveL> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0064.html
13:09:04 <kfritsche> daveL: main topic today is the use cases, so we can publish this
13:10:43 <kfritsche> daveL: also quick going through the action to clean up and checking last call issue
13:12:37 <daveL> agenda: add extension namespace topic to XLIFF mapping
13:13:15 <kfritsche> topic: Highlevel Use Case wrap up
13:13:15 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0068.html
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13:14:18 <kfritsche> chriLi: i went through all of the text on the weekend and shared my observations
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13:14:46 <kfritsche> ... all mails i send out got answered and changes are made there
13:15:40 <kfritsche> ... I'm currently aware of two changes I have to look at
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13:17:02 <daveL> more implementors mentioned in;
13:17:03 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0073.html
13:17:05 <kfritsche> ... does anyone has currently concerns with the status of the wiki?
13:17:27 <kfritsche> chriLi: these implementors are added
13:17:41 <kfritsche> dF: i checked my additions there are in place
13:19:00 <kfritsche> phil: kevin and chase are "my" coders and should be added
13:19:14 <Yves_> Spartan Software
13:19:18 <kfritsche> dF: as which organization should they added?
13:19:42 <kfritsche> phil: add them both as Spartan Software
13:19:54 <kfritsche> chriLi: I added them now
13:20:06 <kfritsche> daveL: anybody else is missing?
13:20:55 <kfritsche> daveL: are all sections checked?
13:21:57 <kfritsche> dF: the license of solas is not decided yet
13:22:19 <kfritsche> chriLi: add it as a note, i will figure it out, how we can manage that there
13:22:36 <kfritsche> chriLi: there is a discussion about the title
13:23:26 <kfritsche> ... in the document is not only the use cases also some additional paragraphs
13:23:44 <kfritsche> ... we now have something ready
13:23:59 <kfritsche> daveL: can you forward this to the list?
13:25:41 <kfritsche> dF: you included ??? into the the wrong section, it should be moved to 2.11
13:26:06 <kfritsche> ... there should be also noted that it will be open source (license unclear)
13:26:12 <kfritsche> chriLi: thats fixed
13:26:19 <daveL> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/mlw-metadata-uc-impl/mlw-metadata-us-impl-wiki2spec.html
13:26:55 <kfritsche> chriLi: thats a slightly outdated version
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13:27:29 <chriLi> This is a Working Group Note "High-level Usage Scenarios and Implementation Reports for Internationalization Tag Set 2.0". The W3C Internationalization Tag Set 2.0 - developed by the [http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/ W3C MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group] - enhances the foundation to integrate automated processing of human language into core Web technologies. The W3C MultilingualWeb-LT Working Group received funding by the European Commiss[CUT]
13:27:53 <chriLi> project [http://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/ict/language-technologies/project-multilingualweb-lt_en.html MultilingualWeb-LT (LT-Web))] through the Seventh Framework Programme (FP7) in the area of Language Technologies (Grant Agreement No. 287815).
13:27:55 <kfritsche> chriLi: this [above] is the paragraph we discussed
13:28:15 <chriLi>  As part of their activities, members of the Working Group and the LT-Web project created various implementations that exemplify how ITS 2.0 supports automated processing of human language into core Web technologies.
13:28:39 <kfritsche> daveL: thats the text of the status box
13:29:52 <kfritsche> daveL: what is the current note title?
13:30:19 <fsasaki> hi all, just to re-iterate: this is just a draft, not yet a final note ;)
13:30:21 <chriLi> Metadata for the Multilingual Web - Usage Scenarios and Implementations
13:30:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
13:31:37 <kfritsche> dF: there are minor edits in the paragraph, which are not in yet
13:31:46 <kfritsche> daveL: this is the first draft, so we can update it later
13:32:02 <fsasaki> thanks, daveL and chriLi :)
13:32:42 <kfritsche> daveL: Is everybody happy with the current status?
13:33:01 <kfritsche> ... as a first public draft of the working group note
13:33:13 <kfritsche> ... any objections
13:33:23 <kfritsche> - no objections -
13:33:52 <kfritsche> dF: we need pretty printed minutes for this
13:34:07 <kfritsche> daveL: normaly fsasaki is doing this
13:34:19 <kfritsche> s/normaly/normally
13:34:40 <daveL> question for felix; can you generate a pretty printed version of minutes for transition request
13:34:41 <fsasaki> hi dF, no need for pretty printing
13:34:59 <fsasaki> above rrsagent link is enough - also for the mail to the chairs list
13:35:09 <daveL> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:35:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html daveL
13:35:10 <kfritsche> dF: requisition request refers to minutes
13:35:27 <fsasaki> rrsagent, where am I?
13:35:27 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-irc#T13-35-27
13:35:36 <kfritsche> dF: the raw link is enough
13:36:10 <kfritsche> daveL: after rome we can extend this draft
13:36:17 <daveL> Topic:  XLIFF mapping - short update
13:36:33 <kfritsche> daveL: send out an email:
13:36:45 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0060.html
13:37:48 <kfritsche> ... updating our implementations and the wiki to the current status
13:38:54 <kfritsche> ... using match-quality in XLIFF instead of mtConfidence
13:39:36 <kfritsche> ... all changes are on going, any comments are welcome
13:40:38 <Yves_> I have several comments, but I'll post emails in the thread for that.
13:40:59 <Yves_> too long to comment now
13:41:42 <kfritsche> dF: would be good if the whole group would maybe aware of it, maybe we can move it to next call
13:42:10 <kfritsche> daveL: can you follow up with the namespace issue
13:43:06 <kfritsche> dF: extending namespace without any location or validation resources would be pointless in my mind
13:43:09 <Yves_> I think we can have a schema, just speciifc to our purpose
13:43:44 <kfritsche> df: is there a way to use multiple XSD for different scenarios?
13:43:52 <Yves_> standalone xsd is not meaning full
13:43:58 <Yves_> ...in this case
13:44:21 <Yves_> markup make sense only when used with XLIFF
13:44:46 <kfritsche> dF: i look for way, that this is not only working as a empty shell, also for validation purposes
13:45:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
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13:46:12 <Yves_> The bottom line is I think we can have an XSD for ITS+XLIFF with that namespace, without stepping on the other elements/attributes of that namespace.
13:46:28 <kfritsche> phil: can there an uri under that namespace, we could use
13:46:38 <Yves_> there is no rule that says 1 namespace == 1 XSD
13:46:46 <kfritsche> daveL: we could always do this
13:47:19 <Yves_> probably
13:47:47 <kfritsche> dF: I would be happy to have suche a XSD for ITS+XLIFF
13:48:11 <kfritsche> ... probably better discuss this further f2f in rome
13:48:18 <dF> itsx.uni.me
13:48:59 <Yves_> That's a URI not an URL
13:49:15 <kfritsche> df: itsx.uni.me is what we are using currently until this is resolved
13:49:19 <Yves_> where is it? (URL) could we see it? Thanks.
13:49:49 <dF> http://itsx.uni.me/
13:50:01 <daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0070.html
13:50:14 <dF> There is just a sample xsd there now
13:50:40 <Yves_> thanks.
13:50:51 <daveL> topic: last call issue check
13:51:08 <kfritsche> daveL: moving the agenda around and maybe we could jump to last call issues because we are at the end of the hour
13:52:10 <kfritsche> action: Uploading XSD to github to daveL
13:52:11 <trackbot> Error finding 'Uploading'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/users>.
13:52:19 <kfritsche> action: daveL to Uploading XSD to github
13:52:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-457 - Uploading XSD to github [on David Lewis - due 2013-03-13].
13:52:37 <daveL> http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
13:52:51 <fsasaki> hi all, just for the record, I had an action item to create a separate (= not the existing extension URI) namespace URI for its-xliff mapping - if this is needed please let me know and I can try to do that this week
13:53:06 <dF> http://services.w3.org/xslt?xslfile=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fmultilingualweb%2Flt%2Fdrafts%2Fits20%2Ftools%2Fxslt%2Fdisco-for-its20.xsl&xmlfile=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FInternational%2Fmultilingualweb%2Flt%2Ftrack%2Fapi%2Fdump%3Ffull&content-type=&submit=transform
13:53:59 <kfritsche> dF: oldest open issue is 67
13:53:59 <daveL> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/67
13:55:20 <kfritsche> dF: issue 68 is mostly resolved
13:55:48 <kfritsche> ... chriLi are you satisfied with the solution of this?
13:56:25 <kfritsche> chriLi: i can't answer this today, because i was busy with editing the wiki
13:56:46 <kfritsche> s/wiki/high level use cases draft/
13:57:29 <kfritsche> dF: many issues are only editorial actions left
13:57:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
13:58:09 <kfritsche> daveL: maybe we need longer editor calls, like we have shortly before the first draft
13:59:09 <kfritsche> dF: but not all are only editing actions
13:59:36 <kfritsche> ... there is still some pending issues
14:00:02 <kfritsche> daveL: maybe this is mostly co-chair stuff between felix, david and me to check this
14:00:44 <kfritsche> daveL: we need this table in form the W3C can go through this and accepts its
14:00:58 <fsasaki> regrets+ felix
14:00:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
14:01:13 <fsasaki> present+ felix(partially_on_IRC)
14:01:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
14:01:26 <kfritsche> daveL: remind everybody you should print and bring your poster by yourself to rome
14:01:51 <kfritsche> ... there is also a call on Friday for Luxembourg preparations
14:02:59 <dF> http://www.localizationworld.com/lwlon2013/feisgiltt/
14:03:24 <kfritsche> daveL: would be good to see some demos at the ITS2 track in London at Feisgiltt
14:04:17 <kfritsche> ... maybe you can promote your products there
14:04:54 <kfritsche> daveL: next week no call, because most of us are in rome
14:05:04 <kfritsche> ... see you all in rome
14:05:08 <daveL> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:05:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html daveL
14:05:41 <kfritsche> daveL: chrili is the wiki stable now?
14:06:03 <kfritsche> chrili: give me maybe half an hour
14:06:12 <kfritsche> daveL: i will prepare and wait for your mail
14:06:26 <daveL> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:06:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/06-mlw-lt-minutes.html daveL
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