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14:03:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/03/11-ldp-irc
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14:03:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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14:03:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP ←
14:03:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started ←
14:03:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:03:57 <trackbot> Date: 11 March 2013
14:04:35 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
14:04:59 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice] ←
14:05:19 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on here?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on here? ←
14:05:20 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Arnaud.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, Arnaud. ←
14:05:46 <Arnaud> zakim, who is here?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who is here? ←
14:05:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, Arnaud, [GVoice], pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, ??P10, TallTed (muted), ??P13, dret, JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, Arnaud, [GVoice], pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, ??P10, TallTed (muted), ??P13, dret, JohnArwe ←
14:05:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Arnaud, JohnArwe, dret, Zakim, Ashok, TallTed, pchampin, jmvanel, gavinc, sandro, ericP, Yves, thschee, betehess, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Arnaud, JohnArwe, dret, Zakim, Ashok, TallTed, pchampin, jmvanel, gavinc, sandro, ericP, Yves, thschee, betehess, trackbot ←
14:06:14 <ericP> Zakim, [GVoice] is me
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, [GVoice] is me ←
14:06:14 <Zakim> +ericP; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP; got it ←
14:08:38 <dret> i can step in
Erik Wilde: i can step in ←
14:08:46 <dret> ok, i won't step in
Erik Wilde: ok, i won't step in ←
14:08:53 <sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
<sandro> chair: Arnaud
14:11:00 <sandro> two unidentified callers. mysterious!
two unidentified callers. mysterious! ←
14:11:23 <dret> +1
Erik Wilde: +1 ←
14:11:24 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
<sandro>Topic: Minutes of last meeting
14:11:32 <sandro> PROPOSED: accept minutes from last week
PROPOSED: accept minutes from last week ←
14:11:45 <sandro> RESOLVED: accept minutes from last week (March 4)
RESOLVED: accept minutes from last week (March 4) ←
<sandro>Topic: Next meetings
14:11:27 <sandro> Arnaud: At our last F2F, we arranged for an informal telecon afterwords.
Arnaud Le Hors: At our last F2F, we arranged for an informal telecon afterwords. ←
14:12:20 <sandro> Arnaud: At informal telecon right afterwords, we went over what happened, to catch up people who missed it. That's the plan for next week's telecon.
Arnaud Le Hors: At informal telecon right afterwords, we went over what happened, to catch up people who missed it. That's the plan for next week's telecon. ←
14:12:44 <sandro> Arnaud: So people who come to the F2F, you don't have to join the telecon next week. We wont be making any decisions or anything like that.
Arnaud Le Hors: So people who come to the F2F, you don't have to join the telecon next week. We wont be making any decisions or anything like that. ←
14:12:58 <sandro> Arnaud: On the F2F -- do we have the final list of participatns?
Arnaud Le Hors: On the F2F -- do we have the final list of participatns? ←
14:13:29 <sandro> Arnaud: I haven't heard any feedback on the agenda.
Arnaud Le Hors: I haven't heard any feedback on the agenda. ←
14:14:25 <sandro> Arnaud: Maybe breakouts. Long list of issues; no proposal for some of them.
Arnaud Le Hors: Maybe breakouts. Long list of issues; no proposal for some of them. ←
14:15:00 <sandro> Arnaud: I STRONGLY suggest if you care about an issue, you send out a proposal BEFORE the meeting.
Arnaud Le Hors: I STRONGLY suggest if you care about an issue, you send out a proposal BEFORE the meeting. ←
14:15:05 <dret> the break-out groups would be chartered with preparing proposals for those issues which don't have any right now.
Erik Wilde: the break-out groups would be chartered with preparing proposals for those issues which don't have any right now. ←
14:15:20 <Ashok> q+
Ashok Malhotra: q+ ←
14:15:51 <sandro> Arnaud: If people are remote and really care, we can try to work around their schedule.
Arnaud Le Hors: If people are remote and really care, we can try to work around their schedule. ←
14:16:05 <Arnaud> ack ashok
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok ←
14:16:47 <sandro> Ashok: We still have arguments and disagreements on the overall @@. I was hoping we could talk about that early
Ashok Malhotra: We still have arguments and disagreements on the overall model. I was hoping we could talk about that early ←
14:16:55 <sandro> s/@@/model/
14:17:20 <sandro> Arnaud: I'm kind of torn on that.
Arnaud Le Hors: I'm kind of torn on that. ←
14:17:57 <sandro> Arnaud: If we could agree on the model, things would be easier, yes. But it doesn't seem to be working, so maybe bottom up will work better.
Arnaud Le Hors: If we could agree on the model, things would be easier, yes. But it doesn't seem to be working, so maybe bottom up will work better. ←
14:18:03 <Zakim> +Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves ←
14:18:06 <sandro> .. like develop the test suite, and see how that goes.
.. like develop the test suite, and see how that goes. ←
14:18:11 <dret> switch from topd-down to bottom-up mode, yes. i think we have established that top-down doesn't seem to work all that great for us.
Erik Wilde: switch from topd-down to bottom-up mode, yes. i think we have established that top-down doesn't seem to work all that great for us. ←
14:18:29 <sandro> +1 bottom up
+1 bottom up ←
14:18:51 <sandro> Arnaud: We'll end up needing to make the same design decisions, but without the details we don't understand each other.
Arnaud Le Hors: We'll end up needing to make the same design decisions, but without the details we don't understand each other. ←
14:18:54 <dret> and then when we have better spec'd bottom-up cases, we need to distill the model.
Erik Wilde: and then when we have better spec'd bottom-up cases, we need to distill the model. ←
14:19:23 <sandro> eric: There's a possibility that working with test cases will get us toward the model than discussion the model theoretically
Eric Prud'hommeaux: There's a possibility that working with test cases will get us toward the model than discussion the model theoretically ←
14:19:28 <sandro> Arnaud: exactly.
Arnaud Le Hors: exactly. ←
14:19:35 <dret> yup, i agree that the tests are an excellent way to go forward.
Erik Wilde: yup, i agree that the tests are an excellent way to go forward. ←
14:19:52 <sandro> ericP: Ashok, do you see a way to have the Test discussion first, in a way that will help us have a grounded Model discussion.
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Ashok, do you see a way to have the Test discussion first, in a way that will help us have a grounded Model discussion. ←
14:19:55 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:20:04 <sandro> dret, can you take over scribing for 10-15 now?
dret, can you take over scribing for 10-15 now? ←
14:20:12 <sandro> Ashok: I need to think about this.
Ashok Malhotra: I need to think about this. ←
14:21:34 <dret> i can do that...
Erik Wilde: i can do that... ←
<dret>scribe: dret
(Scribe set to Erik Wilde)
14:22:46 <dret> Arnaud: keep breakout sessions as an option, but in such a fragmented group it may be counter-productive; will be decided on demand
Arnaud Le Hors: keep breakout sessions as an option, but in such a fragmented group it may be counter-productive; will be decided on demand ←
14:23:06 <Zakim> -??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P13 ←
14:23:20 <dret> Topic: Actions and Issues
14:23:49 <Zakim> -??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P10 ←
14:24:13 <dret> Proposal: close ACTION-29
14:24:54 <dret> Resolved: ACTION-29 closed
14:26:22 <dret> ACTION-38 remains open while we switch to bottom-up mode for the model discussion
ACTION-38 remains open while we switch to bottom-up mode for the model discussion ←
<sandro>Topic: Open Issues
<sandro>subtopic: Issue-49
14:30:00 <Ashok> But is this a LDP issue?
Ashok Malhotra: But is this a LDP issue? ←
14:30:44 <Arnaud> ack Yves
Arnaud Le Hors: ack Yves ←
14:31:47 <dret> discussing ISSUE-49 and whether it's part of LDP or should be considered orthogonal
discussing ISSUE-49 and whether it's part of LDP or should be considered orthogonal ←
14:32:46 <dret> Yves: pointing to metalink and saying that we should be very cautious about making mirroring/equivalence a part of LDP
Yves Lafon: pointing to metalink and saying that we should be very cautious about making mirroring/equivalence a part of LDP ←
14:33:02 <dret> Ashok: agrees with Yves
Ashok Malhotra: agrees with Yves ←
14:33:19 <dret> Arnaud: seems like most people agree that it's not an LDP issue
Arnaud Le Hors: seems like most people agree that it's not an LDP issue ←
14:33:20 <JohnArwe> ...yves said he would put reference to other materials on the public list; some issues with attack vectors.
John Arwe: ...yves said he would put reference to other materials on the public list; some issues with attack vectors. ←
14:33:43 <Arnaud> ack sandro
Arnaud Le Hors: ack sandro ←
14:34:26 <dret> Sandro: use OWL sameas in data or in the HTTP header
Sandro Hawke: use OWL sameas in data or in the HTTP header ←
14:35:04 <dret> these are RDF solutions, we might also recommend HTTP-level ones?
these are RDF solutions, we might also recommend HTTP-level ones? ←
14:35:14 <pchampin> q+ to notice that owl:sameAs is symetrical
Pierre-Antoine Champin: q+ to notice that owl:sameAs is symetrical ←
14:35:21 <Arnaud> ack pchampin
Arnaud Le Hors: ack pchampin ←
14:35:21 <Zakim> pchampin, you wanted to notice that owl:sameAs is symetrical
Zakim IRC Bot: pchampin, you wanted to notice that owl:sameAs is symetrical ←
14:36:28 <dret> pchampin: not sure about sameas, because it is supposed to be symmetrical
Pierre-Antoine Champin: not sure about sameas, because it is supposed to be symmetrical ←
14:37:39 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
14:37:39 <Yves> See https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6249
Yves Lafon: See https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6249 ←
14:37:44 <sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
14:38:03 <SteveS> zakim, [IBM] is me
Steve Speicher: zakim, [IBM] is me ←
14:38:03 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
14:38:12 <Ashok> q+
Ashok Malhotra: q+ ←
14:38:15 <dret> thanks, sandro!
Erik Wilde: thanks, sandro! ←
14:38:23 <Arnaud> proposal: close issue-49, making no change
PROPOSED: close ISSUE-49, making no change ←
14:38:34 <Arnaud> ack ashok
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok ←
14:38:59 <sandro> Ashok: There's a section 4.1.4 that spoke to this. Does that get clarified or removed or what?
Ashok Malhotra: There's a section 4.1.4 that spoke to this. Does that get clarified or removed or what? ←
14:39:16 <sandro> Arnaud: No one has proposed that
Arnaud Le Hors: No one has proposed that ←
14:39:54 <sandro> Arnaud: There is one MUST in the spec.
Arnaud Le Hors: There is one MUST in the spec. ←
14:40:32 <sandro> Ashok: I recommend keeping it open and figuring out what to do with that part of our spec.
Ashok Malhotra: I recommend keeping it open and figuring out what to do with that part of our spec. ←
14:41:04 <sandro> Arnaud: I don't want to just leave it open, and then we'll come back in 2 months
Arnaud Le Hors: I don't want to just leave it open, and then we'll come back in 2 months ←
14:41:13 <sandro> Ashok: give me an action
Ashok Malhotra: give me an action ←
14:41:38 <SteveS> q+
Steve Speicher: q+ ←
14:41:38 <sandro> Arnaud: So we'll leave ISSUE-49 open for now, and Ashok with produce a recommendation about what to do about 4.1.4
Arnaud Le Hors: So we'll leave ISSUE-49 open for now, and Ashok with produce a recommendation about what to do about 4.1.4 ←
14:41:47 <Arnaud> ack steves
Arnaud Le Hors: ack steves ←
14:43:42 <sandro> action Ashok to propose how to modify the text of 4.1.4 to go with closing ISSUE-49 (with no material modification to spec)
action Ashok to propose how to modify the text of 4.1.4 to go with closing ISSUE-49 (with no material modification to spec) ←
14:43:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-40 - Propose how to modify the text of 4.1.4 to go with closing ISSUE-49 (with no material modification to spec) [on Ashok Malhotra - due 2013-03-18].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-40 - Propose how to modify the text of 4.1.4 to go with closing ISSUE-49 (with no material modification to spec) [on Ashok Malhotra - due 2013-03-18]. ←
14:44:42 <dret> i'm fine with ignoring ISSUE-37 for now and then attempt to distill it from tests
Erik Wilde: i'm fine with ignoring ISSUE-37 for now and then attempt to distill it from tests ←
<sandro>subtopic: Issue-21
14:45:22 <sandro> Arnaud: We were going to talk about Reverse Membership Predicate, but Steve Battle asked we not decide in his absence, so we'll put it off.
Arnaud Le Hors: We were going to talk about Reverse Membership Predicate, but Steve Battle asked we not decide in his absence, so we'll put it off. ←
14:45:35 <sandro> Arnaud: He did send email with example.
Arnaud Le Hors: He did send email with example. ←
14:46:59 <sandro> dret: I liked Steve's notion that navigability and data model are different things. What are the concepts that we identify and represent; and THEN decide on the affordances, where do we encode it, so clients can find that part of the data model in that place.
Erik Wilde: I liked Steve's notion that navigability and data model are different things. What are the concepts that we identify and represent; and THEN decide on the affordances, where do we encode it, so clients can find that part of the data model in that place. ←
14:47:35 <sandro> .. I really like the idea of splitting them. Make membership part of model, then later talk about how to make it navigable, maybe in both directions.
.. I really like the idea of splitting them. Make membership part of model, then later talk about how to make it navigable, maybe in both directions. ←
14:47:55 <sandro> Arnaud: I thought you might agree with that. :-)
Arnaud Le Hors: I thought you might agree with that. :-) ←
14:48:10 <sandro> Arnaud: Steve's example was very useful. I had not understood it.
Arnaud Le Hors: Steve's example was very useful. I had not understood it. ←
14:48:20 <sandro> Arnaud: We need more examples posted.
Arnaud Le Hors: We need more examples posted. ←
14:49:06 <sandro> Arnaud: I had thought it was a back-link, but he's just using a different membership property. The link is in the same direciton, container to member.
Arnaud Le Hors: I had thought it was a back-link, but he's just using a different membership property. The link is in the same direciton, container to member. ←
14:50:13 <sandro> subtopic: issue-35
14:50:16 <sandro> issue-35?
14:50:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-35 -- POSTing to a container MUST yield a fresh URI -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-35 -- POSTing to a container MUST yield a fresh URI -- open ←
14:50:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/35
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/35 ←
14:50:41 <sandro> Arnaud: We had a similar discussion about whether URIs could be reused after delete.
Arnaud Le Hors: We had a similar discussion about whether URIs could be reused after delete. ←
14:51:07 <sandro> .. Like MUST you get an error doing a GET after a DELETE?
.. Like MUST you get an error doing a GET after a DELETE? ←
14:51:22 <sandro> .. people seemed to think there may be cases where a URI is reused.
.. people seemed to think there may be cases where a URI is reused. ←
14:51:26 <sandro> issue-24?
14:51:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-24 -- Should DELETED resources remain deleted? -- closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-24 -- Should DELETED resources remain deleted? -- closed ←
14:51:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/24
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/24 ←
14:51:39 <dret> i hope we don't say anywhere that you MUST get an error..
Erik Wilde: i hope we don't say anywhere that you MUST get an error.. ←
14:51:45 <sandro> Arnaud, so issue-35 and issue-24 seem linked
Arnaud, so ISSUE-35 and ISSUE-24 seem linked ←
14:51:59 <pchampin> I agree that they seem linked
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I agree that they seem linked ←
14:52:01 <sandro> (your logic sounds good to me, Arnaud)
(your logic sounds good to me, Arnaud) ←
14:52:31 <TallTed> seems an accurate assessment...
Ted Thibodeau: seems an accurate assessment... ←
14:52:57 <sandro> dret, I don't think we have liberty to decide this. if a server decides to re-use URIs, that's up to it. clients shouldn't make those assumptions.
Erik Wilde: I don't think we have liberty to decide this. if a server decides to re-use URIs, that's up to it. clients shouldn't make those assumptions. ←
14:53:12 <sandro> s/dret,/dret:/
14:53:29 <sandro> dret: I don't think clients have business looking at URIs like this.
Erik Wilde: I don't think clients have business looking at URIs like this. ←
14:53:43 <sandro> Arnaud: Richard proposed server must not re-assign URI.
Arnaud Le Hors: Richard proposed server must not re-assign URI. ←
14:54:00 <sandro> q+
q+ ←
14:54:19 <TallTed> POSTing to a container MUST yield a URI ... it's server's choice what that URI is, and I think whether that URI is guaranteed new or re-used is and should remain outside our control
Ted Thibodeau: POSTing to a container MUST yield a URI ... it's server's choice what that URI is, and I think whether that URI is guaranteed new or re-used is and should remain outside our control ←
14:54:47 <sandro> Arnaud: To be consistent with 24 we can't change anything on 35. because we already said URIs may be reused
Arnaud Le Hors: To be consistent with 24 we can't change anything on 35. because we already said URIs may be reused ←
14:54:51 <Arnaud> ack sandro
Arnaud Le Hors: ack sandro ←
14:55:32 <ericP> sandro: i'm concearned about the situation where client A deletes </foo> and client B continues to use </foo>
Sandro Hawke: i'm concearned about the situation where client A deletes </foo> and client B continues to use </foo> [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
14:56:03 <ericP> ... if something else creates </foo>, the meaning will change out from under client B.
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... if something else creates </foo>, the meaning will change out from under client B. ←
14:56:23 <sandro> Arnaud: Yeah, "under certain cirumstances". So in the NORMAL case you'd get a new URI.
Arnaud Le Hors: Yeah, "under certain cirumstances". So in the NORMAL case you'd get a new URI. ←
14:56:28 <ericP> ... we need text which talks about "delete if if you're *sure* the URL hasn't leaked out"
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... we need text which talks about "delete if if you're *sure* the URL hasn't leaked out" ←
14:56:33 <sandro> Arnaud: So I'm okay with a SHOULD.
Arnaud Le Hors: So I'm okay with a SHOULD. ←
14:56:34 <Arnaud> ack tallted
Arnaud Le Hors: ack tallted ←
14:56:43 <dret> i think this is "deployment guide" stuff: don't do it, because of this and that.
Erik Wilde: i think this is "deployment guide" stuff: don't do it, because of this and that. ←
14:56:57 <sandro> TallTed: This is no different from any other situation where URIs change.
Ted Thibodeau: This is no different from any other situation where URIs change. ←
14:57:42 <pchampin> I agree with TallTed
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I agree with TallTed ←
14:57:49 <dret> me too
Erik Wilde: me too ←
14:57:54 <sandro> TallTed: I don't think this is an undetectable error condition. You just have to document your server behavior
Ted Thibodeau: I don't think this is an undetectable error condition. You just have to document your server behavior ←
14:58:20 <dret> i'd prefer non-spec level, this is just best practice
Erik Wilde: i'd prefer non-spec level, this is just best practice ←
14:58:57 <sandro> sandro: documenting server bevavior means there's no spec here.
Sandro Hawke: documenting server bevavior means there's no spec here. ←
14:59:18 <SteveS> I like increasing the awareness from what we have, like with should or recommended, and possibly update some guidance into the deployment guide
Steve Speicher: I like increasing the awareness from what we have, like with should or recommended, and possibly update some guidance into the deployment guide ←
14:59:45 <sandro> sandro: MUST is too hard to implemnt, but strongly worded SHOULD is okay
Sandro Hawke: MUST is too hard to implemnt, but strongly worded SHOULD is okay ←
15:00:04 <sandro> Arnaud: Sounds like we're coming to SHOULD, but let's not decide until we have Richard present.
Arnaud Le Hors: Sounds like we're coming to SHOULD, but let's not decide until we have Richard present. ←
15:00:11 <dret> not sure. this is not a protocol issue. it's just a recommendation.
Erik Wilde: not sure. this is not a protocol issue. it's just a recommendation. ←
15:00:57 <dret> yup, and if people want to shoot themselves in the foot, they are allowed to do so. they just dimish the vaue of their service.
Erik Wilde: yup, and if people want to shoot themselves in the foot, they are allowed to do so. they just dimish the vaue of their service. ←
15:00:59 <sandro> TallTed: I think SHOULD might be too strong. eg in the case of a reboot
Ted Thibodeau: I think SHOULD might be too strong. eg in the case of a reboot ←
15:01:19 <sandro> sandro: if the client can't assume the URIs will be stable on a given server, we have a huge problem.
Sandro Hawke: if the client can't assume the URIs will be stable on a given server, we have a huge problem. ←
15:01:21 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra ←
15:01:23 <dret> thanks everybody! thanks, sandro!
Erik Wilde: thanks everybody! thanks, sandro! ←
15:01:29 <Zakim> -dret
Zakim IRC Bot: -dret ←
15:01:33 <sandro> thanks, dret!
thanks, dret! ←
15:01:41 <sandro> Arnaud: See many of you in Boston!!
Arnaud Le Hors: See many of you in Boston!! ←
15:01:45 <sandro> ADJOURN
ADJOURN ←
15:01:49 <Zakim> -Yves
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves ←
15:01:50 <Zakim> -TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed ←
15:02:09 <Zakim> -pchampin
Zakim IRC Bot: -pchampin ←
15:03:17 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
15:03:35 <sergio> hi
Sergio Fernández: hi ←
15:03:43 <sandro> https://www.csail.mit.edu/mrbs/view_entry.php?id=94640&area=1&day=14&month=03&year=2013
https://www.csail.mit.edu/mrbs/view_entry.php?id=94640&area=1&day=14&month=03&year=2013 ←
15:03:57 <JohnArwe> we just ended sergio --- US daylight savings started this past weekend
John Arwe: we just ended sergio --- US daylight savings started this past weekend ←
15:04:34 <Zakim> -SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←
15:05:07 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
15:05:08 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
15:05:10 <sergio> what' the new conference code?
Sergio Fernández: what' the new conference code? ←
15:05:12 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
15:05:13 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
15:05:13 <Zakim> Attendees were pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, TallTed, dret, JohnArwe, Sandro, Arnaud, ericP, Yves, SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, TallTed, dret, JohnArwe, Sandro, Arnaud, ericP, Yves, SteveS ←
<sandro> present: pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, TallTed, dret, JohnArwe, Sandro, Arnaud, ericP, Yves, SteveS
15:06:01 <sandro> cygri, meeting just ended. daylight saving time shift.
cygri, meeting just ended. daylight saving time shift. ←
15:06:15 <sergio> ooooh
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown sergio: ooooh ←
15:06:25 <sergio> same error than cygri
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown sergio: same error than cygri ←
15:07:07 <cygri> i updated the calendar for RDF-WG and GLD-WG but must have forgotten LDP-WG
Scribe problem: the name 'cygri' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'cygri' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown cygri: i updated the calendar for RDF-WG and GLD-WG but must have forgotten LDP-WG ←
15:07:23 <sergio> me too
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown sergio: me too ←
15:07:27 <sergio> sorry guys
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'sergio' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Pierre-Antoine Champin Ashok Malhotra Ted Thibodeau Erik Wilde John Arwe Sandro Hawke Arnaud Le Hors Eric Prud'hommeaux Yves Lafon Steve Speicher Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown sergio: sorry guys ←
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