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16:00:54 <davidb> first!
16:01:00 <Andi> Scribe: Andi_Snow-Weaver
16:01:12 <Andi> ScribeNick: Andi
16:01:18 <Andi> Meeting: AAPI 
16:01:25 <Andi> Chair: Andi_Snow-Weaver
16:02:26 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow_Weaver
16:03:59 <Andi> topic: ISSUE-527
16:04:13 <Andi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/527
16:09:17 <Andi> DB: Joseph said in e-mail that he do not see the ROLE_PARENT_OF relationship in the a11y tree and thinks this was an inference on his part
16:09:48 <Andi> DB: looking at aria-owns, don't think we should have "IA2_RELATION_PARENT_WINDOW_OF" for IA2 column
16:17:08 <Andi> action: David to get someone to look at the tables, in particular aria-level
16:21:17 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:22:34 <Andi> topic: SHOULD statements in Role Mapping table
16:25:47 <Andi> AS: example of button, when aria-haspopup="true", maps to menu instead of pushbutton
16:26:28 <Andi> action: David check role mapping table IA2 and ATK columns for all SHOULD statements to determine if the "SHOULD be exposed as" can be changed to "expose as"
16:27:07 <Andi> action: Cynthia to check with IE team on button - is this mapped to role menu if aria-haspopup="true"
16:31:05 <Andi> topic: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17489
16:31:37 <Andi> AS: This suggestion violates our principle that ARIA doesn't change UA behavior
16:31:45 <Andi> DB: should be handled in HTML
16:32:10 <Andi> David to close this action item
16:32:53 <Andi> topic: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17716
16:34:23 <Andi> DB: IA2 is being changed to be more like ARIA but it might not be on the website yet
16:34:42 <Andi> DB: no one was using it except maybe Open Office and they were okay with the change
16:34:55 <Andi> David to find documentation of this and close the bug
16:36:46 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:36:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/24-aapi-minutes.html Andi
16:37:43 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
16:37:44 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:37:44 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
16:37:45 <Zakim> Team_(aapi)16:00Z has ended
16:37:45 <Zakim> Attendees were David_Bolter, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly
16:48:34 <Andi> zakim, bye
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16:48:40 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:48:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/07/24-aapi-minutes.html Andi
16:49:04 <Andi> Present: David_Bolter, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly
16:49:06 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
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18:11:25 <Andi> rrsagent, bye
18:11:25 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/24-aapi-actions.rdf :
18:11:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David to get someone to look at the tables, in particular aria-level [1]
18:11:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/24-aapi-irc#T16-17-08
18:11:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David check role mapping table IA2 and ATK columns for all SHOULD statements to determine if the "SHOULD be exposed as" can be changed to "expose as" [2]
18:11:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/24-aapi-irc#T16-26-28
18:11:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cynthia to check with IE team on button - is this mapped to role menu if aria-haspopup="true" [3]
18:11:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/07/24-aapi-irc#T16-27-07
18:11:31 <Andi> MichaelC, are you there?