IRC log of html-techs-tf on 2012-06-25

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16:08:51 [jamesn]
zakim, this is HTML-TECHS-TF
16:08:51 [Zakim]
sorry, jamesn, I do not see a conference named 'HTML-TECHS-TF' in progress or scheduled at this time
16:09:32 [jamesn]
zakim, this is 9224
16:09:32 [Zakim]
ok, jamesn; that matches WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM
16:09:51 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the call?
16:09:51 [Zakim]
On the phone I see James_Nurthen, Detlev, Marc_Johlic, ??P4
16:10:08 [jamesn]
zakim, ??P4 is Adam
16:10:08 [Zakim]
+Adam; got it
16:10:56 [jamesn]
https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/htmltfJun182012/results
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scribe: marcjohlic
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TOPIC: ARIA technique: Using aria-label
16:12:43 [marcjohlic]
LG does not think the examples qualify as non-text content
16:12:53 [Joshue108]
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16:13:18 [marcjohlic]
David may not be able to continue updating these - do we want to find someone else to finish these up?
16:13:32 [marcjohlic]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA
16:14:10 [Zakim]
+??P21
16:14:27 [marcjohlic]
David tied up with the ICT work
16:14:28 [Joshue108]
zakim, ??P21 is Joshue
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+Joshue; got it
16:14:52 [jamesn]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/25-html-techs-tf-minutes.html jamesn
16:16:38 [jamesn]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-label
16:17:10 [marcjohlic]
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-TECHS/aria.html
16:18:21 [Joshue108]
Maybe we do need ARIA techs for CAPTHAS and other use cases.
16:18:44 [marcjohlic]
http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/text-equiv-all.html#textdef
16:20:02 [Joshue108]
We are expanding the examples that we have, Detlev has worked on some, also Leonie Watson has created some new aria-labelled technqiues.
16:20:30 [Joshue108]
zakim, mute me
16:20:30 [Zakim]
Joshue should now be muted
16:21:22 [marcjohlic]
DF: Why would anyone want to use aria-label / describedby vs just using @alt ? We should document cases where using ARIA is advantageous
16:21:31 [Joshue108]
+q
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ack me
16:23:19 [marcjohlic]
JOC: Granular approach where we can outline x,y,z for each SC - or we can create more general techniques
16:28:12 [marcjohlic]
DF: In general as a developer it's can be helpful to see specific techniques for a particular use case
16:29:50 [marcjohlic]
JN: The aria-label techniques are too general right now - not as useful to developers
16:30:10 [marcjohlic]
JOC: Agree - we need clearer / more specific examples
16:32:58 [marcjohlic]
JN: Are we in agreement that these 3 techniques need some re-work
16:33:46 [marcjohlic]
aria-label, aria-describedby, aria-labeledby
16:34:12 [Joshue108]
Great stuff James.
16:34:14 [marcjohlic]
JN: I will take on situations A, B, & C of 1.1.1 for the 3 techniques
16:35:18 [marcjohlic]
JN: ARIA1 takes care of aria-describedby for Situation C of 1.1.1
16:36:25 [marcjohlic]
JN: Is there a need to review the rest of the techniques today?
16:36:39 [marcjohlic]
JOC: No objection to not reviewing - JN will look over feedback
16:37:32 [marcjohlic]
MJ: Are we fixing small typos that we find as we are reviewing (a vs an)
16:37:53 [marcjohlic]
JOC / JN: yes - let the author know
16:38:41 [Zakim]
-Adam
16:38:50 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the call?
16:38:50 [Zakim]
On the phone I see James_Nurthen, Detlev, Marc_Johlic, Joshue
16:39:05 [adam]
got cut off temporarily
16:39:09 [Joshue108]
np
16:39:22 [Joshue108]
We are going to talk about activedescendent..
16:39:27 [Joshue108]
Can you call back in?
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+??P4
16:40:32 [jamesn]
zakim ??P4 is Adam
16:40:48 [jamesn]
zakim, ??P4 is Adam
16:40:48 [Zakim]
+Adam; got it
16:41:41 [adam]
im hearing half of what is being said
16:42:06 [marcjohlic]
RESOLUTION: JN will review the 3 techniques that David started and update them with more specific examples and use cases
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TOPIC: activedescendent
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-Adam
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+??P4
16:43:36 [marcjohlic]
zakim, ??P4 is Adam
16:43:36 [Zakim]
+Adam; got it
16:44:06 [Joshue108]
zakim, mute me
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Joshue should now be muted
16:44:12 [Detlev]
zakim, mute me
16:44:12 [Zakim]
Detlev should now be muted
16:44:18 [jamesn]
adam - go
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-Adam
16:44:34 [Joshue108]
zakim, unmute me
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Joshue should no longer be muted
16:44:35 [Detlev]
ack me
16:44:53 [marcjohlic]
JOC: Adam is having connection issues - we'll wrap up today and revisit this topic next week
16:45:02 [jamesn]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/25-html-techs-tf-minutes.html jamesn
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+??P4
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-??P4
16:45:55 [jamesn]
rrsagent, make log world
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/25-html-techs-tf-minutes.html jamesn
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-Joshue
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-James_Nurthen
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-Detlev
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-Marc_Johlic
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WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has ended
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Attendees were James_Nurthen, Detlev, Marc_Johlic, Adam, Joshue
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WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has now started
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+??P3
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is anyone on the call?
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-??P3
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WAI_HTML TT()11:30AM has ended
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Attendees were
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