IRC log of text on 2012-06-19

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16:59:27 [janina]
zakim, this will be 2119
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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
16:59:48 [janina]
zakim, this will be 2119
16:59:48 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
16:59:56 [janina]
trackbot, start meeting
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17:00:09 [janina]
zakim, this will be 2119
17:00:09 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
17:00:41 [janina]
zakim, room for 10?
17:00:42 [Zakim]
ok, janina; conference Team_(text)17:00Z scheduled with code 2119 (A11Y) for 60 minutes until 1800Z
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Team_(text)17:00Z has now started
17:01:06 [janina]
zakim, this will be 2119
17:01:07 [Zakim]
ok, janina; I see Team_(text)17:00Z scheduled to start now
17:02:41 [janina]
regrets: david
17:03:05 [JF]
zakim, first item
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I don't understand 'first item', JF
17:03:09 [janina]
zakim, who's on the phone?
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I notice Team_(text)17:00Z has restarted
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On the phone I see John_Foliot, Judy, ??P1
17:03:15 [JF]
zakim, take up next item
17:03:15 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
17:03:21 [janina]
zakim, ??P1 is Janina
17:03:21 [Zakim]
+Janina; got it
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scribe:JF
17:05:42 [janina]
agenda?
17:05:49 [janina]
agenda+ Agenda review; identify scribe.
17:05:50 [janina]
agenda+ Issue 31b, buggy alts and buggy alt guidance: Reviewing
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updated bug matrix from David, and intro from Janina.
17:05:50 [janina]
agenda+ Status updates only where questions or as needed on:
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- Issues 31c, meta generator re-open question: Still pending review:
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+http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Issue31cMetaGeneratorUpdated
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- Issue 194, transcript: update on deadline
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- Issue 199, ARIA processing: update on deadline
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- Issue 203, media descriptors: update on not calling 203 until 30 is resolved
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- Issue 30, longdesc: remaining relevance or not of 204 question to 30
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agenda+ Confirm next meeting; identify next scribe; adjourn.
17:06:17 [JF]
zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "Agenda review; identify scribe." taken up [from janina]
17:06:25 [JF]
zakim, close item 1
17:06:25 [Zakim]
agendum 1, Agenda review; identify scribe., closed
17:06:26 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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2. Issue 31b, buggy alts and buggy alt guidance: Reviewing [from janina]
17:06:37 [JF]
zakim, next item
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agendum 2. "Issue 31b, buggy alts and buggy alt guidance: Reviewing" taken up [from janina]
17:06:55 [JF]
JS: David's document needs some editorial re-working
17:07:11 [JF]
Janina has provided some feedback, reviewing on call
17:10:33 [JF]
JB: so it needs clearer framing
17:11:02 [JF]
this is both alt guidance as well as ALT text in the document?
17:11:13 [JF]
JS: think they are split apart
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JB: thought we agreed to combine the 2\
17:11:53 [JF]
So we need to read through the entire doc to ensure this happened
17:12:47 [JF]
JS: once we give this TF 'blessing" then we make it a TF doc. At this point it is still just a draft
17:12:57 [JF]
which is why it has a version number and authroed by David
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s/authroed/authored
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JS: comparing of Technical Recommendation against a draft document
17:14:50 [JF]
also looking to remove "hot" words - to reduce any contentious language
17:15:18 [JF]
Suggested a matrix (table) as a better way of presenting this
17:16:41 [janina]
http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/WAI/buggy.html
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s/http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/WAI/buggy.html/
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s/http:\/\/www.davidmacd.com\/WCAG\/WAI\/buggy.html/
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s/s\/http:\/\/www.davidmacd.com\/WCAG\/WAI\/buggy.html\//
17:20:22 [JF]
JB: perhaps we should run this by the WCAG WG as well
17:20:43 [JF]
JS: agree. wanted that David make changes before we forward to Loretta
17:24:42 [JF]
JB: perhaps Janina and John can continue on this (perhaps offline?)
17:27:56 [JF]
JF: talked to Ted about issue 204 - think we can find common ground on MAY language
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on JF to try and draft some new text
17:28:46 [Zakim]
-Judy
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+ +1.715.718.aaaa
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rrsagent, make logs public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/19-text-minutes.html JF
18:02:38 [JF]
zakim, please part
18:02:38 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were John_Foliot, Judy, Janina, +1.715.718.aaaa
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18:02:44 [laura]
have to go now.
18:02:45 [JF]
rrsagent, please part
18:02:45 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items