IRC log of html-a11y on 2012-03-29
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 2119
- 14:36:31 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 24 minutes
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- Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 29 March 2012
- 14:36:42 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, call Mike
- 14:36:42 [Zakim]
- ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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- LeifHSilli: ready
- 14:37:10 [richardschwerdtfe]
- it is still saying 2119 is restricted
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- s/LeifHSilli: /member:LeifHSilli, /
- 14:38:31 [janina]
- ditto
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- 14:39:02 [MikeSmith]
- MichaelC, any clues about what we should do?
- 14:39:03 [richardschwerdtfe]
- so, I guess no meeting today
- 14:39:18 [MikeSmith]
- yeah
- 14:39:25 [richardschwerdtfe]
- how about providing the new code?
- 14:39:25 [MikeSmith]
- let's do that if we can
- 14:39:30 [janina]
- I can monitor 2119 on the side at 11
- 14:39:46 [janina]
- Let's do another code for today
- 14:39:57 [richardschwerdtfe]
- how about Morse
- 14:40:04 [richardschwerdtfe]
- ?
- 14:40:05 [janina]
- Too terse
- 14:40:06 [MichaelC]
- zakim, room for 15 for 90 minutes?
- 14:40:09 [Zakim]
- sorry, MichaelC; could not schedule an adhoc conference; passcode overlap; if you do not have a fixed code you may try again
- 14:40:37 [MichaelC]
- zakim, move 9248 to here
- 14:40:37 [Zakim]
- MichaelC, I see Team_(wai)14:40Z in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be 9248".
- 14:40:45 [MichaelC]
- Code is 9248 for today
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- MichaelC has changed the topic to: HTML-A11Y Task Force; Zakim code 9248 for 29 March 2012
- 14:41:16 [MichaelC]
- zakim, this will be 9248
- 14:41:16 [Zakim]
- ok, MichaelC; I see Team_(wai)14:40Z scheduled to start now
- 14:41:26 [MikeSmith]
- MichaelC, can you e-mail the list with that code?
- 14:41:39 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, call Mike
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- ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
- 14:41:51 [LeifHSilli]
- I'm in - Leif
- 14:42:45 [MikeSmith]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Mar/0396.html
- 14:45:05 [JF]
- zakim, who's here?
- 14:45:05 [Zakim]
- Team_(wai)14:40Z has not yet started, JF
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- On IRC I see Stevef, RRSAgent, Zakim, JF, LeifHSilli, richardschwerdtfe, janina, MichaelC, MikeSmith, trackbot, [tm]
- 14:45:27 [MichaelC]
- zakim, move 9248 to here
- 14:45:28 [Zakim]
- ok, MichaelC; that matches Team_(wai)14:40Z
- 14:45:29 [janina]
- scribe: janina
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- +Cynthia_Shelly
- 14:45:55 [janina]
- zakim, take up item 1
- 14:45:55 [Zakim]
- I see nothing on the agenda
- 14:46:09 [janina]
- topic: Canvas Status
- 14:46:12 [MikeSmith]
- agenda+clarify current state of canvas API spec w.r.t revert request
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- agenda+follow up on longdesc/describedat discussion from last week
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- agenda+HTML WG f2f: possible topics for HTML a11y discussion
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- agenda+Subteam Reports: Text; ARIA Mappings; Canvas; Bug Triage; Media;
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- agenda+Other Business
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- agenda+Identify Scribe for 05 April
- 14:46:31 [janina]
- zakim, take up item 1
- 14:46:31 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "clarify current state of canvas API spec w.r.t revert request" taken up [from MikeSmith]
- 14:46:54 [janina]
- ms: All changes back to March 7 are backed out
- 14:47:09 [janina]
- ms: WHAT 7023 is backed out
- 14:47:24 [MikeSmith]
- http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/
- 14:47:42 [janina]
- rs: What's the way forward here?
- 14:47:57 [janina]
- ms: Chairs are actively discussing that
- 14:48:03 [janina]
- rs: Have a suggestion ...
- 14:48:17 [janina]
- rs: We have two major vendor suggestions
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- rs: Microsoft has one approach
- 14:48:40 [janina]
- rs: Hickson (others) have intro'd an approach that is also workable
- 14:48:57 [janina]
- rs: If we actually got a CP from Hickson, it might help move forward
- 14:49:24 [janina]
- rs: The problem is that editor will stop working on this for some time, and we'll just drift
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- rs: But if we get his CP we can tweak and move forward
- 14:49:53 [janina]
- ms: Agree we should look for a way to avoid forking
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- rs: Also, if he submits a CP he explains why he does certain things, and that would be very helpful
- 14:50:47 [janina]
- ms: Agree we need to figure out way forward, can't do more today though
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "follow up on longdesc/describedat discussion from last week" taken up [from MikeSmith]
- 14:51:35 [janina]
- ms: Noting the describedat proposal and discussion of it
- 14:51:45 [JF]
- +Q
- 14:51:53 [janina]
- ms: Seems clear regardless of what happens with describedat it seems it's not in a HTML 5 rec timeline
- 14:52:17 [janina]
- ms: So doesn't affect the I30 reopen request
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- ack JF
- 14:52:39 [richardschwerdtfe]
- q+
- 14:53:17 [janina]
- jf: There's a larger issue here of a flurry of activity that seems to discourage progress because we don't have i30 resolution
- 14:53:59 [paulc]
- What is the passcode for the call?
- 14:54:11 [janina]
- Paul: 9248 for today
- 14:54:59 [janina]
- ms: Clearly the way chairs chose to address this, by dividing it into separate proposals, they've made it more clear about various dependent issues
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- +[Microsoft]
- 14:55:19 [paulc]
- zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
- 14:55:19 [Zakim]
- +paulc; got it
- 14:57:26 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 14:58:01 [janina]
- janina: Notes that Text Subteam and also PF this week discussed describedat and longdesc, both agree that describedat not ready in currently published HTML 5 timeframe
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- janina: Therefore recommend move forward on i30 so we can reinstate longdesc
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- ack richardschwerdtfe
- 14:58:34 [janina]
- jf: Exactly, we can predicate on what might happen in a year or two
- 14:59:04 [janina]
- rs: Now working with browser mfgs to spec describedat, this will take some time
- 14:59:16 [janina]
- rs: This will get things in, but probably not in time for HTML 5
- 14:59:37 [janina]
- rs: If there's another cycle through Last Call, perhaps, but not on the current timetable
- 15:00:00 [janina]
- rs: Believe the WG is saying longdesc needs a replacement for better uptake, and I agree
- 15:00:10 [janina]
- rs: But meantime, we cannot simply shoot longdesc out of the water
- 15:00:26 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:00:27 [janina]
- rs: We can't say "obsolete but conforming" right now either, because we don't have a replacement to point to
- 15:00:58 [janina]
- rms: So we need a TF consensus on what to say to the chairs and the wg
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- ms: Want to ask if anyone objects to that?
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- +Q
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- q+
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- +Judy
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- +Cynthia_Shelly
- 15:03:20 [MikeSmith]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc
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- q?
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- ack JF
- 15:04:06 [janina]
- jf: Mike, I think your suggestion has broad support
- 15:04:14 [Judy]
- q+
- 15:04:15 [janina]
- jf: What kind of unambiguous statement do the chairs want
- 15:04:40 [paulc]
- I am on IRC and on the call.
- 15:05:09 [MikeSmith]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Mar/0389.html
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- Janina to establish that describedat is not being pursued with a
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- completion that would make it relevant in an HTML5 timeframe.
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-
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- This is from an email from Sam
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- jb: This is from a coordination discussion
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- paulc, ?
- 15:08:21 [paulc]
- "Chairs would like a statement from PFWG/janina as to whether ARIA 1.1 would be done within the timeframe of HTML5 for timeline"
- 15:08:41 [MikeSmith]
- q?
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- +[Microsoft.a]
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
- 15:09:49 [JF]
- agenda+ Issue 204 - what to do? http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
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- q?
- 15:10:21 [paulc]
- "Janina to establish that describedat is not being pursued with a completion that would make it relevant in an HTML5 timeframe."
- 15:10:27 [janina]
- janina: Reiterating we refer to the currently published timeline
- 15:10:34 [Zakim]
- -[Microsoft.a]
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- +[Microsoft.a]
- 15:11:14 [janina]
- Judy: I can verify this
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- q?
- 15:11:23 [Judy]
- q-
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- ack Stevef
- 15:11:28 [janina]
- judy: So, can we move to next steps here
- 15:12:08 [janina]
- sf: Don't disagree with longdesc as conforming, though want to restate my concerns with longdesc current and future support
- 15:12:21 [janina]
- sf: Want to say something about it's limitations
- 15:12:22 [MikeSmith]
- q?
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- ms: Are you supporting longdesc at this time
- 15:12:32 [janina]
- sf: yes
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- q?
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- q+
- 15:14:36 [cyns]
- zakim, Microsoft has me
- 15:14:36 [Zakim]
- +cyns; got it
- 15:14:41 [MikeSmith]
- ack [IPcaller]
- 15:14:47 [richardschwerdtfe]
- q+
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- draft RESOLUTION: The HTML-A11Y Task Force confirms that ARIA-DescribedAT will not be ready for HTML 5 in HTML 5's currently published timeframe, and therefore reaffirms its support of Laura's authored CP to reinstate longdesc (Issue-30)
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- ack richardschwerdtfe
- 15:15:09 [Judy]
- q-
- 15:15:13 [JF]
- zakim, [IPcaller] is LeifHSilli
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- +LeifHSilli; got it
- 15:15:44 [janina]
- rs: I think if we put longdesc back in we leave it as is, the better solution will be describedat, when we have it ready
- 15:17:01 [richardschwerdtfe]
- +1
- 15:17:06 [Judy]
- +1
- 15:17:07 [JF]
- +1
- 15:17:09 [janina]
- rs: That's just to reinstate, not to change anything in implementation, correct?
- 15:17:12 [janina]
- yes
- 15:17:14 [janina]
- +1
- 15:17:34 [LeifHSilli]
- +1 (but I wonder if we all agree about "just instate")
- 15:18:14 [cyns]
- can live with
- 15:18:29 [Stevef]
- can ive with
- 15:18:34 [janina]
- RESOLUTION: The HTML-A11Y Task Force confirms that ARIA-DescribedAT will not be ready for HTML 5 in HTML 5's currently published timeframe, and therefore reaffirms its support of Laura's authored CP to reinstate longdesc (Issue-30)
- 15:19:53 [janina]
- zakim, next item
- 15:19:53 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "HTML WG f2f: possible topics for HTML a11y discussion" taken up [from MikeSmith]
- 15:20:32 [janina]
- ms: Notes that HTML F2F scheduled for first week in May in SF Bay Area
- 15:20:48 [janina]
- ms: Hoping we can get some a11y agenda in, and discussion with developers
- 15:21:02 [janina]
- ms: My candidate would be canvas proposals, esp Hickson's recent changes
- 15:21:20 [janina]
- ms: Then also Microsoft's alternative proposals
- 15:21:23 [Judy]
- q+
- 15:21:33 [JF]
- q+
- 15:21:45 [janina]
- ms: So, implementers particularly hope for Microsoft, Google, and Mozilla
- 15:22:04 [janina]
- ms: If we had some a11y implementers it would be really helpful
- 15:22:11 [richardschwerdtfe]
- q+
- 15:22:19 [janina]
- cs: First week of may in the bay area?
- 15:22:21 [janina]
- ms: yes
- 15:22:39 [janina]
- cs: Do we know which particular days the TF would be meeting
- 15:23:13 [janina]
- paul: there's two days of HTML and two days of Web Apps, also think Web Apps security, but no request specifically for the TF
- 15:23:29 [janina]
- cs: Happy to ask Frank to come if we can be specific,
- 15:23:47 [janina]
- ms: Not saying a separate meeting of TF, but getting this an agendum on the WG meeting
- 15:24:03 [janina]
- cs: So, if we can set a particular time, and not wait for unconference, that would help
- 15:24:06 [paulc]
- F2F notice: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0011.html
- 15:24:09 [richardschwerdtfe]
- q?
- 15:24:11 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:24:15 [MikeSmith]
- ack Judy
- 15:25:12 [janina]
- jb: It seens December reverts caused disruption on canvas, and the most recent ones as well, so wondering if we can make progress before the F2F?
- 15:25:21 [janina]
- jb: Or is it sufficient to wait until then?
- 15:25:37 [janina]
- jb: Also want to register dismay that we're getting changes out of process, without CP's
- 15:26:02 [janina]
- jb: Objecting that editor can make changes without following process and thus disrupt the work of others
- 15:26:42 [janina]
- jb: So wonder whether discussion in May at the F2F is sufficient soon for clarity--to clear up the confusion caused by recent reverts
- 15:27:07 [MikeSmith]
- ack richardschwerdtfe
- 15:27:14 [Judy]
- s/caused disruption on canvas/caused disruption on canvas accessibility developments/
- 15:27:27 [janina]
- rs: I have all of IBM's data analytics business waiting on this to be resolved
- 15:27:44 [janina]
- rs: We have nothing that is in the spec to give us location information that we need
- 15:27:52 [janina]
- rs: We're also going to need this in SVG
- 15:28:07 [paulc]
- See http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-201
- 15:28:16 [janina]
- rs: I would like the Chairs to ask the Editor to bring his proposal in via WG process, with a CP
- 15:28:41 [janina]
- rs: It seems flash is going away in the industry as a rendering platform
- 15:28:43 [paulc]
- Ted O'Connor has offered to provide a CP based on the approach that Ian is proposing.
- 15:28:54 [janina]
- rs: Canvas could take it's place, but we're not ready and we need it to happen
- 15:28:58 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:29:09 [janina]
- pc: Ted O'Conner has offered to do that actual CP
- 15:29:21 [janina]
- pc: I believe the date agreed for it is April 11
- 15:29:28 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:29:35 [janina]
- rs: Will it include path and hit region?
- 15:29:38 [janina]
- pc: Don't know
- 15:29:51 [MikeSmith]
- s/hit region/addHitRegion/
- 15:30:00 [janina]
- cs: So, if we're expecting a CP mid April, early May is an excellent time for a discussion on it
- 15:30:15 [janina]
- rs: So, I'll communicate my concernes to Ted
- 15:30:15 [MikeSmith]
- q?
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- ack JF
- 15:30:53 [janina]
- jf: Other topics we might cover--we still have need to attach non-timestamped text to media
- 15:31:01 [richardschwerdtfe]
- q+
- 15:31:31 [richardschwerdtfe]
- q?
- 15:31:46 [janina]
- q+
- 15:32:01 [janina]
- ms: Suggest you send email suggesting and summarizing this
- 15:32:28 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:32:47 [janina]
- janina: Suggest discussing in Text Subteam first?
- 15:33:03 [janina]
- judy: Agree that discussing details and coming forward with proposals has been working for us
- 15:33:11 [MikeSmith]
- ack richardschwerdtfe
- 15:33:27 [janina]
- rs: I wouldn't say we have nothing --
- 15:33:43 [janina]
- rs: If visible on page, you can use DescribedBy
- 15:33:51 [janina]
- rs: If only a string you can hide it as well
- 15:33:57 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:34:20 [janina]
- jf: Like to get clarity around what we need to do
- 15:34:42 [janina]
- jf: There's nothing in the spec at this point
- 15:34:54 [janina]
- rs: Do chairs support authoring gudiance in the spec itself?
- 15:35:21 [janina]
- pc: Think this is the wrong question, though will point out Sam has previously said no to this
- 15:35:32 [janina]
- pc: But, it's not what the chairs believe but what the wg believes
- 15:35:49 [janina]
- pc: Sam's rason was that this kind of material tends to be controversial
- 15:36:15 [janina]
- rs: So just trying to save cycles for us
- 15:36:37 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:36:54 [MikeSmith]
- ack janina
- 15:37:12 [janina]
- ack j
- 15:37:30 [janina]
- ms: Want to get back to F2F
- 15:37:51 [janina]
- ms: Want to ask those who have a11y implementer contacts, to get commitments to attend
- 15:38:03 [janina]
- ms: What about Zerkov from Irkutsk?
- 15:38:17 [janina]
- ms: Could someone sponsor him? I think it would be useful to get him if we can.
- 15:38:29 [janina]
- ms: Or David Boltor?
- 15:38:46 [janina]
- rs: I can ask, don't have their budget!
- 15:39:03 [janina]
- ms: Also the Chrome team and we're meeting near Google's headquarters
- 15:39:10 [Zakim]
- -LeifHSilli
- 15:39:16 [janina]
- rs: I can ask
- 15:39:21 [janina]
- ms: Appreciate that very much
- 15:39:44 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:40:18 [janina]
- ms: Also would be good someone from Apple, perhaps James Craig? Do we know who's doing implementation for webkit?
- 15:40:28 [janina]
- ms: I'll talk with Ted about Apple/Webkit
- 15:40:48 [MikeSmith]
- q?
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- janina: Also want to bring up the need to test with marked up, time stamped alternative media conte4nt
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- s/4//
- 15:43:13 [MikeSmith]
- agenda?
- 15:43:22 [Zakim]
- +??P5
- 15:43:29 [janina]
- zakim, take up item 7
- 15:43:29 [Zakim]
- agendum 7. "Issue 204 - what to do? http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204" taken up [from JF]
- 15:44:27 [janina]
- jf: I've submitted a CP and have comments back yesterday .. I have a concern that what's being asked isn't really clear
- 15:45:02 [janina]
- jf: I tried to respond based on my understanding of what can and can't happen with ARIA
- 15:45:17 [janina]
- jf: Want to surface this because a deadline on this is approaching quickly
- 15:45:20 [janina]
- q+
- 15:45:26 [paulc]
- ISSUE-204 CP review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0766.html
- 15:45:38 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:45:39 [janina]
- ACK J
- 15:45:41 [MikeSmith]
- ack janina
- 15:46:46 [paulc]
- Note the following from 0766.html message:
- 15:46:49 [paulc]
- "Unless this flaw is corrected by April 18th, the chairs will not accept the ARIA_CORTHCWSR proposal, and will instead proceed to a call for consensus on the AllowAriaReferHidden proposal."
- 15:47:13 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:47:52 [janina]
- rs: I don't want other WGs specifying how ARIA is to be processed, I chair ARIA work in PF
- 15:48:28 [janina]
- pc: Unless concerns with CPs are not fixed, the existing one proposal would move by consensus
- 15:48:45 [janina]
- pc: I disagree with Janina, the chairs will say 204 is decided if not properly rebutted
- 15:49:23 [janina]
- pc: Earlier people in this meeting were lamenting that Hickson hasn't followed process and put in a CP.
- 15:49:37 [janina]
- pc: Same for 204, put a valid CP on the table
- 15:49:49 [janina]
- rs: Do we need a zero change CP?
- 15:49:49 [Judy]
- q+
- 15:49:55 [janina]
- ack j
- 15:50:38 [janina]
- jb: Why do you need a CP to not affect another WG's spec?
- 15:50:54 [janina]
- pc: You need a zero CP here, and agreement in the TF what the arguments are
- 15:51:18 [janina]
- pc: If it's simply that 204 is out of scope for the WG, the argument needs to be made more elegantly
- 15:51:39 [LeifHSilli]
- I'm wildly +1-ing PaulC!
- 15:51:56 [janina]
- pc: In our coordination with Judy and Janina we promissed early feedback in order to keep the timeline moving forward expeditiously
- 15:52:38 [janina]
- jf: I just don't have the cycles to correct grammar
- 15:52:56 [MikeSmith]
- q?
- 15:53:05 [janina]
- jf: If the TF believes we need a different proposal, I would ask someone else could take that up
- 15:53:21 [janina]
- jb: Maybe even ...
- 15:53:55 [janina]
- rs: I'm so upset at the level of time involved -- it's like saying we'll change the processing rules of CSS if no one objects -- that's just insane
- 15:54:38 [janina]
- jb: I hear the concern and the upset, and we do have W3C process here, but this is unfortunately the path we need to take at this point
- 15:54:41 [janina]
- sf: I'll do it
- 15:54:56 [paulc]
- I need to drop off to get ready to Chair the WG meeting.
- 15:55:03 [janina]
- zakim, take up item 4
- 15:55:03 [Zakim]
- -Rich
- 15:55:05 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Subteam Reports: Text; ARIA Mappings; Canvas; Bug Triage; Media;" taken up [from MikeSmith]
- 15:55:19 [Zakim]
- -[Microsoft]
- 15:55:35 [janina]
- jb: Text Subteam report -- good meeting on Tuesday 27th
- 15:55:46 [janina]
- jb: Want to remind we meet at 1PM Boston Tuesdays
- 15:56:00 [janina]
- jb: Reported on coordinatin mtg with chairs
- 15:56:29 [janina]
- jb: Discussed metaname generator, noted the responses seemd to go off topic from our understanding,
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- jb: Text will refocus
- 15:57:04 [janina]
- jb: Also noted that response time should be adjusted because Steve's questions were never responded to
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- jb: This was acknowledged
- 15:58:09 [janina]
- jb: We have an approach in mind and have begun work
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- jb: I will help framing the approach
- 15:58:41 [janina]
- jb: Also discussed describedat and longdesc and came to a consensus which was picked up here earlier on this call
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- ms: Any other report we should have today?
- 15:59:39 [janina]
- ms: Anyone volunteer to scribe next week? Going ... ...
- 16:02:11 [janina]
- Steve is first scribe, John is our fallback scribe for 5 April which will be at the regular hour
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- -Mike
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- -Judy
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- zakim, bye
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- -??P7
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Rich, John_Foliot, Mike, Cooper, Cynthia_Shelly, paulc, Judy, [Microsoft], cyns, LeifHSilli
- 16:02:37 [janina]
- rrsagent make log public
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-html-a11y-minutes.html janina
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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