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16:00:05 Zakim, this will be 2119
16:00:05 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now
16:00:06 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:00:06 Date: 12 January 2012
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16:02:27 zakim, who is on the call?
16:02:55 On the phone I see John_Foliot, [Microsoft], ??P22
16:03:04 zakim, ??P22 is Michael_Cooper
16:03:06 zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
16:03:13 +??P35
16:03:25 +Judy
16:03:30 zakim, ??P35 is Janina_Sajka
16:03:37 regrets+ LĂ©onie_Watson
16:03:47 +Michael_Cooper; got it
16:03:49 +paulc; got it
16:03:59 +Cynthia_Shelly
16:04:07 +Janina_Sajka; got it
16:04:40 scribe: janina
16:05:08 topic: Bug Tagging
16:05:19 regrets+ Laura_Carlson
16:05:26 agenda+ Remaining Bug Processing
16:05:26 agenda+ Subteam Reports: ARIA Mapping; Text; Media
16:05:26 agenda+ Other Business
16:05:26 agenda+ Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
16:05:26 agenda+ Identify Scribe for 19 January http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
16:05:27 agenda+ be done
16:06:07 +Rich
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16:08:12 Discussion of whether to create a new tag to indicate the TF has worked on, and finished work, a particular bug.
16:08:43 +David_MacDonald
16:10:31 Suggestion to create a TF tag to indicate need to revisit
16:11:37 -John_Foliot
16:12:20 +John_Foliot
16:12:48 Agreement to postpone to next week as it doesn't help us meed this week's deadline.
16:12:56 agenda?
16:13:05 zakim, take up item 1
16:13:09 agendum 1. "Remaining Bug Processing" taken up [from Judy]
16:14:19 Bug Subteam will meet again Friday at 1PM Boston
16:14:49 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13619
16:15:01 -John_Foliot
16:15:22 +John_Foliot
16:16:11 q+
16:17:22 What is the keyword for HTML.Next?
16:17:33 ack r
16:18:05 Janina: Suggest focus only on what needs Friday escalation
16:18:13 Rich: This affects more than HTML
16:18:23 Rich: Will work on this in Indie UI
16:18:26 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13512
16:18:50 Agreement to assign to Web API guide
16:20:04 Paul: WG isn't getting the notice when this is moved to another WG. People have complained when the editor has done this.
16:20:16 Paul: Suggests creating a new bug to achieve this, not move an existing bug
16:23:04 Paul: Same problem if component move, e.g. from LC to API component
16:23:27 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13560
16:25:00 CS: Issue q: ARIA disallows changing role
16:27:28 js: Global issue is dynamic changes are a major a11y concern. There's needs to be the appropriate place to manage that globally
16:30:18 Zakim, call Mike
16:30:18 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:30:20 +Mike
16:31:10 ms: Confirms that bugs are not dropped, ever.
16:33:02 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13656
16:33:36 cs: Shouldn't escalate without examples
16:33:46 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13560
16:36:48 JS: Asks level of confidence that Bug Triage can finish Friday?
16:37:08 mc: 40 bugs needs info, have identified 5 categories
16:37:17 mc: Expectation to finish re escalation
16:37:23 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
16:38:20 -John_Foliot
16:38:38 mc: Triage will make sure there's a tracker for canvas issues
16:39:02 cs: Probably need separate canvas trackers, as some of the issues aren't related
16:39:12 mc: if they're obviously different
16:39:12 +John_Foliot
16:39:26 rs: 131 anything to do with carat focus ring selection
16:39:36 rs: text base line we have cp, but no tracker
16:39:58 rs: need tracker for path to element
16:40:37 cs: i did them a bit differently ...
16:40:48 cs: anything to do with text editing in canvas, ie will not support
16:42:00 rs: nothing to do on subdom because part of spec already
16:42:10 -John_Foliot
16:43:15 +John_Foliot
16:43:23 rs: think resolving scroll path into view will be sufficient
16:44:55 Canvas bugs: 9061, 11240, 12306, 12906, 14419
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16:45:30 Cynthia, can you drop those 4 categories into the Chat here?
16:45:56 Current non-processed TrackerRequest's: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML%20WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
16:45:58 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13176
16:46:23 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13181
16:47:40 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0036.html
16:48:19 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
16:50:24 rs: We need issue relating to providing bounds of an element which also allows hit testing
16:50:54 cs: position and hit testing in the same issue is OK
16:51:11 cs: want text separated out
16:53:23 pc: question on ball park estimate of additional requests?
16:53:37 mc: expects as many as 5 issues
16:54:06 pc: are you thinking a tracker on a single bug then relate the others?
16:54:10 mc: would like input on that
16:54:31 pc: suggest bugs a, b c, d all relate to e, and put tracker on e
16:56:32 zakim, next item
16:56:32 agendum 2. "Subteam Reports: ARIA Mapping; Text; Media" taken up [from Judy]
16:57:25 jb: text met tuesday, started planning for when longdesc came up, talked about alt guidance concerns, title and meta generator pending
16:58:37 jb: also processed 10 text related bugs
16:59:10 jb: asking when longdesc might come out?
16:59:19 pc: still processing one of the cp's, so no further data yet
17:00:53 -Mike
17:00:58 -Judy
17:00:59 -David_MacDonald
17:00:59 -Janina_Sajka
17:00:59 -Cynthia_Shelly
17:01:00 -Michael_Cooper
17:01:01 -John_Foliot
17:01:02 -[Microsoft]
17:01:03 -Rich
17:01:04 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended
17:01:07 Attendees were John_Foliot, Judy, Michael_Cooper, paulc, Cynthia_Shelly, Janina_Sajka, Rich, David_MacDonald, Mike
17:06:00 zakim, bye
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