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<sandro> Guest: Stephen Cresswell <sandro> Scribe: Ronald 17:05:45 <cgueret_work> Hi! I may have some difficulties to join the conference :-/ No microphone and I have to investigate on how to use a phone call... 18:23:32 <kalte> Hi there - as I am trying to join the LGD Telco today for the first time a short question if it works if I just call the given Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200 at the time of the meeting? 19:55:31 <rreck> hey macted 19:55:44 <bhyland> @kalte, yes, that is how it works 19:57:42 <bhyland> zakim, list conferences 19:58:15 <bhyland> zakim,who is here? 20:00:00 <bhyland> ping 20:00:38 <olyerickson> Bern I'm on the call 20:00:55 <bhyland> invite zakim #gld 20:00:57 <olyerickson> I'm the guy who dialedin SIP with feedback :( 20:01:14 <bhyland> zakim, what conferences do you see? 20:01:17 <olyerickson> I hear fine but might not be able to speak 20:01:26 <gatemezi> Hi..all 20:01:41 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, who is on the call? 20:01:46 <olyerickson> -1 to zakem experience... 20:02:21 <tgheen> I don't have Zakim experience, but I thnk last time the command "trackbot, start telecon" was the initial command 20:02:39 <olyerickson> Bingo! 20:02:51 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, who is on the call 20:02:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the call', HadleyBeeman1 20:02:57 <bhyland> zakim, what conferences do you see? 20:02:57 <Zakim> I see MM_MMI(EMMA)10:00AM, T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM, WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM, IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM, SW_RDFa()10:00AM, UW_POI(POIWG)10:00AM, INC_LLDXG()10:00AM active 20:03:00 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are Math_IG()10:00AM, IA_WebApps(Widgets)9:00AM, WF_TF()9:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM, XML_PMWG()10:00AM 20:03:10 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, who is here? 20:03:10 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman1, I don't know what conference this is 20:03:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see olyerickson, HadleyBeeman1, martinAlvarez, boris, StephenCresswell, wbrafford, tgheen, Yigal, ZachWhitley, gatemezi, rreck, bkaempgen, MacTed, cgueret_work, bhyland, 20:03:18 <Zakim> ... trackbot 20:03:24 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here? 20:03:25 <olyerickson> Whoever just joined is noisy 20:03:27 <Zakim> sorry, bkaempgen, I don't know what conference this is 20:03:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see olyerickson, HadleyBeeman1, martinAlvarez, boris, StephenCresswell, wbrafford, tgheen, Yigal, ZachWhitley, gatemezi, rreck, bkaempgen, MacTed, cgueret_work, bhyland, 20:03:41 <Zakim> ... trackbot 20:04:45 <boris> zakin who is here 20:04:52 <boris> zakim, who is here 20:04:52 <Zakim> boris, you need to end that query with '?' 20:04:54 <bhyland> zakim who is here 20:04:56 <boris> zakim, who is here? 20:04:56 <Zakim> sorry, boris, I don't know what conference this is 20:04:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see MartinKaltenboeck, csarven, GeraldSteeman, DruidSmith, Zakim, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman1, martinAlvarez, boris, StephenCresswell, wbrafford, tgheen, Yigal, 20:05:04 <Zakim> ... ZachWhitley, gatemezi, rreck, bkaempgen, MacTed, cgueret_work, bhyland, trackbot 20:05:25 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this is gld 20:05:26 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman1; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 20:05:50 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, who's here? 20:05:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, ??P5, +1.240.228.aabb, +1.540.645.aacc, +49.721.aadd, +1.757.604.aaee, +1.440.389.aaff, ??P27, +1.443.708.aagg, ??P33, ??P34, +1.202.691.aahh, 20:05:53 <Zakim> ... +539149aaii, ??P36, +1.202.566.aajj, ??P43 20:05:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see MartinKaltenboeck, csarven, GeraldSteeman, DruidSmith, Zakim, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman1, martinAlvarez, boris, StephenCresswell, wbrafford, tgheen, Yigal, 20:05:58 <Zakim> ... ZachWhitley, gatemezi, rreck, bkaempgen, MacTed, cgueret_work, bhyland, trackbot 20:06:04 <bhyland> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.08.18#Agenda 20:06:04 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, +1.440.389.aaff is me 20:06:04 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman1; got it 20:06:13 <rreck> bhyland: getting started on 5th telecon. agenda has been sent out. 20:06:35 <DruidSmith> zakim, .aaff is me 20:06:35 <Zakim> sorry, DruidSmith, I do not recognize a party named '.aaff' 20:06:44 <DruidSmith> zakim, aajj is me 20:06:44 <Zakim> +DruidSmith; got it 20:06:51 <bkaempgen> zakim, aadd is bkaempgen 20:06:51 <Zakim> +bkaempgen; got it 20:06:55 <rreck> bhyland: sandro is on leave. george will be joining later 20:07:01 <wbrafford> zakim, aagg is me 20:07:01 <Zakim> +wbrafford; got it 20:07:08 <tgheen> zakim, aacc is me 20:07:08 <bkaempgen> nick bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen 20:07:10 <Zakim> +tgheen; got it 20:07:17 <bkaempgen> zakim, nick bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen 20:07:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'nick bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen', bkaempgen 20:07:31 <gatemezi> zakim, gatemezi is Ghislain Atemezing 20:07:31 <Zakim> I don't understand 'gatemezi is Ghislain Atemezing', gatemezi 20:07:43 <rreck> bhyland: bumpy start to invited experts 20:08:17 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aakk 20:08:25 <rreck> i didnt get my approval yet 20:08:50 <Zakim> - +1.202.566.aakk 20:09:05 <rreck> martin: poll for next f2f should participants participate? 20:09:06 <boris> zakim, aaee is probably me 20:09:06 <Zakim> +boris?; got it 20:09:18 <Zakim> + +20598aall 20:09:19 <rreck> bhyland: yes, this is not exclusionary 20:09:22 <Yigal> I didn't receive approval either, but I didn't do anything on my side. 20:09:25 <boris> zakim, csarven is with me 20:09:26 <Zakim> +csarven; got it 20:09:40 <cgueret_work> I'm in ! :) 20:09:57 <Zakim> +??P49 20:10:11 <cgueret_work> zakim, cgueret_work is Christophe Gueret 20:10:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'cgueret_work is Christophe Gueret', cgueret_work 20:10:14 <rreck> bhyland: inclusionary orientation. we want the best the world has to offer. 20:10:43 <HadleyBeeman1> For anyone having trouble with Zakim commands, the info is here: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot 20:10:45 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here? 20:10:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, ??P5, +1.240.228.aabb, tgheen, bkaempgen, boris?, HadleyBeeman1, ??P27, wbrafford, ??P33, ??P34, +1.202.691.aahh, +539149aaii, ??P36, DruidSmith, 20:10:48 <Zakim> ... ??P43, +20598aall, ??P49 20:10:49 <Zakim> boris has boris?, csarven 20:10:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see Mike, SimonWall, MartinKaltenboeck, csarven, GeraldSteeman, DruidSmith, Zakim, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman1, martinAlvarez, boris, StephenCresswell, wbrafford, tgheen, 20:10:52 <Zakim> ... Yigal, ZachWhitley, gatemezi, rreck, bkaempgen, MacTed, cgueret_work, bhyland, trackbot 20:10:53 <rreck> bhyland: we are going to skip introductions today because of limited time. 20:11:14 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aamm 20:11:16 <cgueret_work> -q 20:11:23 <gatemezi> +1 to skip introduction 20:12:04 <DruidSmith> .me thinks aamm is probably Mike Pendleton 20:12:17 <DruidSmith> zakim, aamm is Mike 20:12:17 <Zakim> +Mike; got it 20:12:26 <rreck> +1.240.228.aabb is me 20:12:29 <boris> zakin, aaii is me 20:12:35 <boris> zakim, aaii is me 20:12:35 <Zakim> +boris; got it 20:12:36 <rreck> +1.240.228.aabb is rreck 20:12:42 <ZachWhitley> zakim, who's here 20:12:42 <Zakim> ZachWhitley, you need to end that query with '?' 20:12:57 <Zakim> +George 20:13:20 <ZachWhitley> zakim, who's here? 20:13:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, ??P5, +1.240.228.aabb, tgheen, bkaempgen, boris?, HadleyBeeman1, ??P27, wbrafford, ??P33, ??P34, +1.202.691.aahh, boris, ??P36, DruidSmith, ??P43, 20:13:23 <Zakim> ... +20598aall, ??P49, Mike, George 20:13:23 <Zakim> boris has boris?, csarven 20:13:23 <cgueret_work> zakim, cgueret_work is Christophe Gueret 20:13:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see Mike, SimonWall, MartinKaltenboeck, csarven, GeraldSteeman, DruidSmith, Zakim, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman1, martinAlvarez, boris, StephenCresswell, wbrafford, tgheen, 20:13:24 <boris> zakim, csarven is with me 20:13:29 <Zakim> ... Yigal, ZachWhitley, gatemezi, rreck, bkaempgen, MacTed, cgueret_work, bhyland, trackbot 20:13:31 <Zakim> I don't understand 'cgueret_work is Christophe Gueret', cgueret_work 20:13:32 <Zakim> 'boris' is ambiguous, boris 20:13:32 <rreck> +20598aall is csarven 20:13:50 <DruidSmith> zakim, aall is csarven 20:13:50 <Zakim> +csarven; got it 20:13:54 <SimonWall> zakim, who is here? 20:13:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, ??P5, +1.240.228.aabb, tgheen, bkaempgen, boris?, HadleyBeeman1, ??P27, wbrafford, ??P33, ??P34, +1.202.691.aahh, boris, ??P36, DruidSmith, ??P43, 20:13:57 <Zakim> ... csarven, ??P49, Mike, George 20:13:57 <Zakim> boris has boris?, csarven 20:13:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see George, Mike, SimonWall, MartinKaltenboeck, csarven, GeraldSteeman, DruidSmith, Zakim, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman1, martinAlvarez, boris, StephenCresswell, wbrafford, 20:14:04 <Zakim> ... tgheen, Yigal, ZachWhitley, gatemezi, rreck, bkaempgen, MacTed, cgueret_work, bhyland, trackbot 20:14:16 <Zakim> -??P43 20:14:40 <Zakim> +??P43 20:14:45 <rreck> bhyland: move to approve minutes? 20:15:00 <olyerickson> Minutes here: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-08-04 20:15:01 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??P43 is me 20:15:01 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez; got it 20:15:24 <rreck> bhyland: minutes approved 20:15:41 <boris> zakim, aaii is definitely me 20:15:41 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaii is definitely me', boris 20:15:41 <rreck> bhyland: no new issues 20:15:49 <rreck> bhyland: poll ofr next f2f 20:16:08 <rreck> topic: poll for next f2f 20:16:19 <rreck> bhyland: please vote 20:16:34 <bhyland> Q? 20:16:38 <bhyland> q? 20:16:39 <boris> q? 20:17:04 <rreck> bhyland: we are discussing having speakers 20:17:21 <rreck> bhyland: Modeca about vocabularies 20:17:34 <rreck> bhyland: are people interested in speakers? 20:17:55 <rreck> rreck: i think we should vote on which topics we consider relevant 20:17:59 <rreck> for speakers 20:18:24 <rreck> bhyland: please email me if you have recommendations about who could/should speak 20:18:34 <rreck> bhyland: or suggest topics here 20:18:47 <rreck> bhyland: please send to gld chairs mailing list 20:19:11 <rreck> bhyland: ie on temp status or members please respond to poll 20:19:31 <rreck> bhyland: we will now address each deliverable one by one. 20:19:45 <cgueret_work> where is it? the poll 20:19:50 <rreck> bhyland: task force consists of self appointed individuals 20:20:02 <rreck> i think an email went to the list yesterday 20:20:05 <tgheen> Poll: http://www.doodle.com/3qhtb2n5umr5s434 20:20:28 <Zakim> -wbrafford 20:20:36 <wbrafford> I'm on, but I hit drop call instead of unmute. 20:20:39 <rreck> bhyland: william bradford - community directory? 20:21:03 <rreck> bhyland: standard vocabularies 20:21:24 <rreck> dan i dont know your handle 20:21:30 <ZachWhitley> +q 20:21:57 <rreck> dan gillman: we are setting up the first phone call 20:22:19 <Zakim> +wbrafford 20:22:22 <rreck> unknown: are there multiple tracks on the wiki? 20:22:26 <Zakim> -Mike 20:22:40 <rreck> bhyland: undecided, its up to you 20:23:13 <rreck> vocabs and statistical view may be separate or not. its up to the particpants 20:23:31 <rreck> bhyland: WG is going on for two years 20:23:40 <Zakim> +Mike 20:23:59 <olyerickson> I think the first purpose is to survey the landscape, then adopt and/or generate new based on the based on the gaps 20:24:02 <rreck> bhyland: LOD cookbook is evolving and we would like to capture things over time 20:24:02 <George> @Zach - we can explore this on the telecon - everyone but Richard C has filled it out... 20:24:31 <rreck> wbrafford: community directory is awaiting to look at prototype 20:24:39 <MartinKaltenboeck> How can people contribute to the community directory (content) - is there a specified procedure? 20:24:56 <rreck> wbrafford: we will refine requirements after we receive feedback 20:25:23 <rreck> bhyland: let's have a meeting, apparently people are having some stumbling blocks on the process for using it 20:25:52 <rreck> bhyland: this will occur next week, there are currently 5 logins and people do not seem to be able to get very far 20:26:11 <rreck> TOPIC: vocabuaries 20:26:45 <rreck> george: doodle poll should be close by the end of the week 20:27:12 <bhyland> Cube Vocab discussion. Check http://www.doodle.com/z9mt7xyra5cftshu. See George's email 15-Aug-2011 subject "Cube Vocab Discussion Doodle Poll" for more info. 20:27:12 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Statistical_Cube_Data 20:27:12 <bhyland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Jul/0019.html, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Jul/0020.html, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Jul/0021.html, and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Jul/0023.html 20:27:33 <rreck> george: we will talk about the answer to zak's question 20:27:36 <olyerickson> @George I am on vacation (and travelling) most of next week 20:27:49 <rreck> topic: procurement 20:27:56 <rreck> we need more participation 20:28:05 <George> Procurement deliverable is about '5 Star Data for Gov Contracting Officers' idea... 20:28:12 <rreck> or if anybody knows anybody 20:28:37 <rreck> topic: Steven provenance WG 20:29:09 <rreck> StephenCresswell: i am "only" a member of the group 20:29:10 <bhyland> Topic: Provenance Interchange WG liason acitivites 20:29:52 <rreck> StephenCresswell: Govt LOD WG has identified this as important and recognize a need for liason 20:30:21 <rreck> StephenCresswell: group started at the end of April as a follow on from the IG 20:30:37 <StephenCresswell> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/ 20:30:37 <rreck> StephenCresswell: the IG produced a good report 20:31:30 <rreck> StephenCresswell: anyone publishing data really needs this type of information 20:31:51 <rreck> StephenCresswell: for licensing, trust. needed in escience 20:32:16 <bhyland> Per provenance XG Final Report, "Provenance refers to the sources of information, such as entities and processes, involved in producing or delivering an artifact. The provenance of information is crucial in deciding whether information is to be trusted, how it should be integrated with other diverse information sources, and how to give credit to its originators when reusing it. In an open and inclusive environment such as the Web, users find information that i 20:32:32 <rreck> StephenCresswell: lingua franca conceptual model or OWL ontology 20:32:47 <gatemezi> Do we know how UK and US handle this provenancce issue? 20:32:58 <gatemezi> in their past experience? 20:33:19 <Zakim> + +1.267.481.aann 20:33:23 <rreck> sorry i am falling behind 20:33:48 <rreck> StephenCresswell: our WG must created requirements and usecases by end of sept 20:33:56 <bhyland> StephenCresswell: Has a end-of-September deadline to deliver provenance use cases & would like our help. 20:33:59 <olyerickson> There don't appear to be clear "Government" use cases in the Final Report 20:34:42 <rreck> bhyland: minutes are for attendees and others. 20:35:09 <George> and some researchers (RPI) with a lot to say about provenance 20:35:49 <rreck> bhyland: if you would like to discuss lessons learned we have time 20:36:11 <Zakim> -Mike 20:36:12 <olyerickson> +1 to knowledge/experience/tools at TWC RPI...currently no specific funding for provenance research 20:36:16 <rreck> StephenCresswell: i have worked with the publication of legislation 20:36:21 <George> http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ 20:36:26 <bhyland> StephenCresswell: is contracted to TNA for publication of legislation for legislation.gov.uk 20:36:29 <rreck> +1 chima's help 20:36:56 <olyerickson> One fous moving forward at TWC RPI isto develop new ways to "surface" provenance metadata in apps/visualizations 20:37:23 <bhyland> The expert in provenance that I mentioned is Chime Ogbuji at Cleveland Clinic. We could invite him as an expert guest to discuss lessons learned for a future call ... 20:37:27 <rreck> StephenCresswell: published in XML, RDFa, HTML, PDF, and paper 20:37:29 <Zakim> +Mike 20:37:35 <olyerickson> This is critically important esp. in apps using LOGD...why no "government" use cases 20:38:16 <rreck> +1 use cases 20:38:44 <rreck> StephenCresswell: capture and dissemination uses OPMV vocabulary (Oxford) 20:38:48 <George> Stephen Cresswell working with John Sheridan to capture provenance of complex legislation workflow on legislation.data.gov.uk using OPMV dev'd by JJ at Oxford U 20:38:57 <rreck> ty 20:39:01 <bhyland> StephenCresswell: OPMZ Vocab as a way of describing the artifacts & processes of the workflow. 20:39:14 <rreck> StephenCresswell: based on OPM model 20:39:18 <bhyland> s/OPMZ/OPMV 20:39:29 <HadleyBeeman1> George: that's actually legislation.gov.uk 20:39:48 <rreck> StephenCresswell: our approach is to capture from each processing step in RDF 20:40:02 <rreck> StephenCresswell: trace provenance of document 20:40:09 <George> Thanks Hadley :) thankfully it resolves either way... 20:40:14 <George> http://openprovenance.org/ 20:40:47 <rreck> bhyland: ask more precision about the September deliverable 20:41:16 <StephenCresswell> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Connection_Task_Force_Informal_Report 20:41:23 <bhyland> Provenance Vocabs in the XG Final Report (Dec 2010), see http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/#Provenance_Vocabularies 20:41:25 <rreck> StephenCresswell: we should have a working draft of the conceptual model 20:41:34 <rreck> StephenCresswell: and the vocabulary 20:42:00 <rreck> StephenCresswell: we need to find something to populate the report by targeting specific communities 20:42:03 <bhyland> q? 20:42:46 <ZachWhitley> -q 20:43:35 <rreck> bhyland: is the september draft of a rec? 20:43:56 <olyerickson> Question: Are you asking us to add to "Communities Addressing Important Issues in Provenance"? 20:44:06 <rreck> bhyland: if you have use cases to help the provenance wg tackle real life problems 20:44:18 <George> q - so XGR is working through all the provenance contributions at the link Stephen gave, but currently legislation.gov.uk is using OPMV - yes? 20:44:24 <George> ?q 20:44:35 <rreck> StephenCresswell: escience is possibly farther along 20:45:27 <olyerickson> Question: Or more generally, are we being asked to add to "Connection Task Force Informal Report"? 20:45:33 <rreck> http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim 20:45:36 <bhyland> SimonWall: From AU Bureau of Stats 20:45:52 <bhyland> SimonWall: Dealing with questions of statistical trust 20:45:55 <bhyland> q? 20:45:57 <rreck> unknown (simon): finding good statistics 20:46:40 <George> +q @ Stephen - so XGR is working through all the provenance contributions at the link Stephen gave, but currently legislation.gov.uk is using OPMV - yes? 20:47:07 <rreck> bhyland: thanks StephenCresswell 20:47:26 <olyerickson> I believe we need specific provenance consumption use cases for government 20:47:43 <George> understood - thanks! 20:47:50 <rreck> StephenCresswell: we are using opmv at the moment but would consider others 20:48:04 <rreck> bhyland: done with the review of the deliverables 20:48:27 <StephenCresswell> (we expect to use the new standard developed from prov group when it is settled) 20:49:25 <olyerickson> What is the scope of "2.3.1 DCAT" discussion expected? 20:49:31 <bhyland> Mentioned: Bob DuCharme's SPARQL webinar 20:49:36 <olyerickson> +1 to bob being awesome ;) 20:50:00 <HadleyBeeman1> Do we have a link for Bob's webinar? 20:50:12 <George> speaking of BobDC - recent blog post on the simplicity of publishing RDFa as well that's worth checking out - also great @iand post on RDF data model - good mgmt sound bite stuff :) 20:50:16 <rreck> i can send you a link rreck@rrecktek.com 20:50:45 <olyerickson> +1 to Bern and Dave for getting the LOGD book out! 20:50:46 <rreck> email me 20:51:16 <George> BobDC's SPARQL webinar event info - http://aug2011sparql.eventbrite.com/ 20:51:30 <rreck> Martin please give us a link to your conference 20:51:39 <bhyland> http://ogdcamp.org/ 20:52:30 <rreck> Open Government Data Camp, about publishing govt data 20:52:32 <Zakim> -Mike 20:52:37 <bhyland> Open Government Data Camp 2011 looks very international, attendees from public administration, publishing, lots of activists, developers, hackers, everyone! 20:53:29 <bhyland> Lots of discussion around legal issues, Gov't Linked Data, etc 20:54:04 <bhyland> Per MartinKaltenboeck: lots of people who are working on linking gov't data specifically. 20:54:52 <bhyland> q? 20:54:57 <rreck> bhyland: meeting ending 7 minutes early 20:55:15 <rreck> bhyland: next meeting first of september 20:55:17 <George> thanks Bernadette and all! 20:55:19 <Zakim> -??P34 20:55:21 <Zakim> - +1.267.481.aann 20:55:22 <Zakim> -bhyland 20:55:23 <HadleyBeeman1> Thanks! 20:55:24 <Zakim> - +1.240.228.aabb 20:55:25 <Zakim> -SimonWall 20:55:26 <gatemezi> thanks!! 20:55:27 <Zakim> -martinAlvarez 20:55:29 <Zakim> -bkaempgen 20:55:29 <csarven> Thanks. 20:55:32 <bhyland> zakim, 20:55:35 <olyerickson> Bye 20:55:35 <martinAlvarez> bye, thanks 20:55:37 <Zakim> - +1.202.691.aahh 20:55:39 <Zakim> -wbrafford 20:55:40 <Yigal> Thanks! 20:55:41 <Zakim> -DruidSmith 20:55:44 <Zakim> -George 20:55:45 <cgueret_work> bye 20:55:47 <bhyland> What is the zakim cmd to map number to correct name? 20:55:47 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman1 20:55:50 <Zakim> I don't understand '', bhyland 20:55:51 <Zakim> -boris 20:55:55 <Zakim> -csarven 20:55:55 <MartinKaltenboeck> thanks & bye! 20:55:57 <Zakim> -??P33 20:55:59 <Zakim> -tgheen 20:56:05 <Zakim> -boris? 20:56:09 <Zakim> -??P27 20:56:09 <rreck> bhyland who can i contact about helping with vocabs? 20:56:15 <Zakim> -??P5 20:56:22 <rreck> bhyland you will help me get these published? 20:56:34 <olyerickson> @rreck what help are you looking for? 20:56:42 <bhyland> @rreck, contact George Thomas who is facilitating vocabs. 20:56:48 <rreck> the magic commands to publish them 20:56:59 <rreck> ok, ill contact George 20:57:03 <bhyland> @rreck, yes, I'm looking for info on how publish meetings … 20:57:28 <rreck> and you can fix my login/particpation thing. i wont bother you with it 20:57:54 <bhyland> strangely, the Common Scribe notes don't include it ... http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html 20:58:07 <rreck> well its not a user function 20:58:13 <bhyland> ah, here is the info: 20:58:19 <bhyland> rrsagent, generate minutes 20:58:21 <Zakim> -??P36 20:58:23 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 20:58:24 <Zakim> Attendees were bhyland, +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb, +1.540.645.aacc, +49.721.aadd, +1.757.604.aaee, +1.443.708.aagg, +1.202.691.aahh, +539149aaii, +1.202.566.aajj, 20:58:29 <Zakim> ... HadleyBeeman1, DruidSmith, bkaempgen, wbrafford, tgheen, +1.202.566.aakk, boris?, +20598aall, csarven, +1.202.566.aamm, Mike, boris, George, martinAlvarez, SimonWall, 20:58:32 <Zakim> ... +1.267.481.aann #20:58:50 <bhyland> note: davidwood was really bhyland # edit done --Sandro 20:58:54 <rreck> i didnt tell him i was the scribe 20:59:05 <rreck> so i dont even look like i was here 20:59:16 <bhyland> That is OK, we can go back in & tidy up manually. I don't think you told them I was chair either ;-) 20:59:18 <bhyland> bye for now. 20:59:30 <rreck> bye, please fix it. ok? 20:59:37 <bhyland> I have to run to another meeting, but will work to get these correctly named & put inplace. 20:59:43 <bhyland> yes, Ron, thanks again. 21:00:02 <rreck> glad to help 21:00:03 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started 21:00:08 <Zakim> +??P27 21:00:17 <Zakim> -??P27 21:00:21 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 21:00:24 <Zakim> Attendees were