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15:58:30 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)12:00PM has now started
15:58:30 <Andi> rrsagent, make logs public
15:58:37 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
15:58:38 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
15:58:38 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
15:58:41 <Andi> rrsagent, make log world
15:59:00 <Andi> Scribe: Andi_Snow-Weaver
15:59:09 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver
15:59:14 <Andi> ScribeNick: Andi
15:59:21 <Andi> Meeting: AAPI
15:59:36 <Andi> Chair: Andi_Snow-Weaver
16:00:39 <Andi> topic: TPAC meeting next week
16:01:06 <Andi> AS: PFWG wants to give us time to work on our issues - time zones would make this Monday and Tuesday afternoons
16:02:00 <Andi> DB: not available to attend by phone - can be on the IRC channel and can be available if I'm blocking an issue
16:02:31 <Andi> topic: bugs 
16:02:32 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform+APIs
16:07:06 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:08:07 <Andi> bug 14497: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14497
16:09:47 <davidb> regarding hidden on atk we should fire object:attribute-change
16:10:07 <Andi> AS: in Events table, aria-hidden has been updated per the bug
16:12:12 <Andi> DB: can we link back to the aria-activedescendant section from the table?
16:12:20 <Andi> AS: yes. I can add a link to section 4.3
16:14:15 <Andi> AS: David, I'll need you to review the table in 4.1 to complete the ATK column
16:14:44 <Andi> AS: Cynthia has bug 13208 to complete the table for MSAA and UIA 
16:18:14 <Andi> AS: should we fill in the empty cells with "not mapped"?
16:18:18 <Andi> DB: yes
16:18:23 <Andi> CS: okay with me too
16:19:04 <Andi> DB: FF does fire events for valuetext
16:20:17 <Andi> DB: aria-grabbed, aria-dropeffect gets object:attribute-change
16:20:34 <Andi> DB: think there is an event for aria-busy
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16:26:39 <davidb> for selection events on atk "text-selection-changed"
16:27:43 <davidb> this one is better "selection-changed"
16:36:08 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
16:42:06 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#keyboard-focus_aria-activedescendant
16:43:29 <Andi> bug 13208
16:43:47 <Andi> CS: don't think MSAA has a concept of a difference between "active" and "focused" states
16:43:51 <Andi> CS: will check with Larry
16:51:15 <Andi> topic: rescheduling next week's meeting
16:51:46 <Andi> CS: Friday - available from 10:30 - 2:30 PT
16:52:08 <Andi> CS: could also do 7:30 - 8 PT
16:52:24 <Andi> AS: those times are for the 28th
16:53:55 <Andi> topic: actions 
16:53:55 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
16:57:49 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
16:57:50 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:57:50 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)12:00PM has ended
16:57:52 <Zakim> Attendees were David_Bolter, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly
16:57:55 <Andi> zakim, bye
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16:58:05 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:58:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/25-aapi-minutes.html Andi
19:03:15 <Andi> rrsagent, bye
19:03:15 <RRSAgent> I see no action items