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15:01:17 Zakim, this will be 2119
15:01:18 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:01:18 Date: 15 September 2011
15:01:30 Zakim, call Mike
15:01:31 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:01:41 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
15:01:45 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has now started
15:01:47 +Mike
15:02:11 +John_Foliot
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15:02:56 +Judy
15:03:24 +Michael_Cooper
15:04:34 scribe: MichaelC
15:05:21 is zakim not working?
15:05:30 +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:05:34 Topic: bug-triage subteam update
15:05:38 there u go
15:05:40 scribe: MikeSmith
15:06:08 MichaelC: working on two tasks: looking at a11y bugs and figuring out if they need to the -tf keyword
15:06:40 MichaelC: second task is going through remaining bugs and seeing if we missed any, and caught some
15:06:55 scribe: MichaelC
15:07:08 topic: Canvas sub-team
15:07:27 rs: proposal sent, awaiting responses from browser manufacturers
15:07:54 this is on changes for focus ring, and text baseline
15:08:17 topic: Text alternatives sub-team
15:08:23 jb: met this week for first time in several weeks
15:08:39 discussed response in progress to Jonas on longdesc
15:09:05 also discussed adding response to Matt, who updated his change proposal
15:09:19 hope to send these out next week
15:09:33 checked on some reopen requests and change proposals
15:09:52 meta generator recirculated, no feedback, so plan to look at that next week
15:09:57 then forward to full TF
15:10:22 table summary proposal seems to have missing info, plan to ask Josh to add
15:10:30 +??P51
15:10:36 figcaption, trying to gather info on how it's expected to be used in browsers
15:10:49 and usability aspects related to length of the caption
15:11:02 so will probably keep working on for several weeks
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15:11:28 also discussed an item forwarded from bug triage group
15:11:34 expect to clarify and take next steps
15:11:44 Q+
15:11:45 q?
15:11:59 zakim, ??P51 is Steve_Faulkner
15:11:59 +Steve_Faulkner; got it
15:12:15 jf: bug on generated content and AAPIs
15:12:34 no consistent response
15:12:35 q+
15:12:38 ack j
15:12:43 ack JF
15:13:35 +Cynthia_Shelly
15:14:40 mc: note relationship to PFWG review of CSS, which includes generated content module
15:14:45 would like to coordinate the two pieces
15:14:50 jf: will coordinate offline
15:14:56 topic: Media sub-team
15:15:13 jf: not much in past couple weeks, in holding pattern while some issues mature
15:15:33 I will be attending Web & TV workshop next week so will see some of the principals to coordinate
15:15:42 hope to reconvene in next couple weeks
15:16:19 -> http://www.w3.org/2011/09/webtv/ Web and TV Workshop
15:16:44 topic: ARIA mapping
15:16:54 cs: nothing new lately
15:17:01 plan to restart work next week
15:17:29 sf: will be at TPAC, hope we can meet then as well
15:17:30 q?
15:17:33 ack me
15:17:40 ack MichaelC
15:17:48 cs: yes, though let's start before then
15:18:53 jf: think ARIA/AAPI mapping may also relate to generated content issue
15:19:00 sf: please send bug reference
15:19:03 jf: will do and follow up
15:19:09 topic: Actions review
15:19:16 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
15:19:33 action-131?
15:19:33 ACTION-131 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to write whitepaper on ARIA features that seem similar to HTML features but aren't -- due 2011-08-04 -- OPEN
15:19:33 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/131
15:20:55 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Jul/0169.html
15:21:32 rs: news to me...
15:21:53 mc: looks like we made RS temporary assignee, but felt need for this on 28 July 2011
15:22:53 html5 and the myth of aria redundance http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2010/04/html5-and-the-myth-of-wai-aria-redundance/
15:23:03 rs: trying to figure out...
15:23:27 sf: above resource might be useful
15:24:15 topic: New business
15:24:49 no deadlines in immediate future from HTML WG
15:25:37 qq?
15:25:40 q?
15:26:27 mc: note a deadline to push back on bug priority assignments
15:27:04 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0315.html Timeline
15:27:24 that was 2 September 2011
15:28:16 -Cynthia_Shelly
15:28:58 ms: this might be an extendable deadline
15:29:17 mc: not sure how many reprioritizations we'd request, but fell behind on checking on that
15:29:27 because still triaging in bugs
15:29:39 ms: don't think would affect timeline much
15:29:54 timeline was based on assumption on more bugs submitted than actually were
15:30:13 will bring up schedule in HTML call today
15:30:24 topic: Next meeting
15:30:50 ms: scribe volunteer?
15:31:01 sf: will volunteer if present
15:31:04 -Steve_Faulkner
15:31:05 rs: will serve as backup
15:31:06 -Mike
15:31:08 -John_Foliot
15:31:10 -Judy
15:31:11 -Michael_Cooper
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15:34:10 zakim, drop rich
15:34:11 Rich_Schwerdtfeger is being disconnected
15:34:16 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended
15:34:23 Attendees were Mike, John_Foliot, Judy, Michael_Cooper, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Steve_Faulkner, Cynthia_Shelly
15:34:28 rrsagent, make minutes
15:34:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/15-html-a11y-minutes.html MichaelC
15:35:34 chair: Mike_Smith
15:35:55 scribeOptions: -final
15:36:56 regrets: LĂ©onie_Watson, Janina_Sajka, Laura_Carlson
15:37:01 trackbot, end meeting
15:37:01 Zakim, list attendees
15:37:02 sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:37:02 RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:37:02 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/15-html-a11y-minutes.html trackbot
15:37:03 RRSAgent, bye
15:37:03 I see no action items