IRC log of webid on 2011-07-18

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14:51:10 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/07/18-webid-irc
14:51:12 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs world
14:51:12 [Zakim]
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Zakim, this will be WEBID
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ok, trackbot; I see INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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Meeting: WebID Incubator Group Teleconference
14:51:15 [trackbot]
Date: 18 July 2011
14:53:15 [bblfish]
zakim, agenda?
14:53:15 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
14:54:34 [bblfish]
agenda +"Accept minutes from previous meeting: http://www.w3.org/2011/07/11-webid-minutes.html"
14:55:21 [bblfish]
agenda +"Check Open Actions http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/open"
14:55:35 [bblfish]
agenda +"WebID and BrowserId discussion"
14:56:56 [bblfish]
for those who want to check out this overview "What are the main advantages and disadvantages of webid compared to browserid?" http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/5406/what-are-the-main-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-webid-compared-to-browserid/5424
14:57:50 [scor]
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14:57:55 [Zakim]
INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM has now started
14:58:02 [Zakim]
+ +1.781.273.aaaa
14:58:12 [MacTed]
Zakim, aaaa is OpenLink_Software
14:58:12 [Zakim]
+OpenLink_Software; got it
14:58:20 [MacTed]
Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:58:20 [Zakim]
+MacTed; got it
14:58:29 [Zakim]
+ +1.781.866.aabb
14:58:41 [scor]
zakim, aabb is me
14:58:41 [Zakim]
+scor; got it
14:59:00 [MacTed]
RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:59:00 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/18-webid-minutes.html MacTed
14:59:04 [MacTed]
RRSAgent, make logs public
14:59:11 [MacTed]
Zakim, mute me
14:59:11 [Zakim]
MacTed should now be muted
14:59:12 [domel]
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14:59:31 [scor]
zakim, who is on the phone?
14:59:31 [Zakim]
On the phone I see MacTed (muted), scor
14:59:53 [Zakim]
+ +1.510.931.aacc
15:00:07 [bblfish]
Zakim, aacc is me
15:00:07 [Zakim]
+bblfish; got it
15:01:01 [Zakim]
+??P14
15:01:16 [Zakim]
+??P15
15:01:24 [domel]
Zakim, I am ??P14
15:01:24 [Zakim]
+domel; got it
15:01:26 [bblfish]
zakim, bblfish is chair
15:01:26 [Zakim]
+chair; got it
15:01:36 [bergi]
Zakim, I am ??P15
15:01:36 [Zakim]
+bergi; got it
15:01:48 [MacTed]
Zakim, chair is bblfish
15:01:48 [Zakim]
+bblfish; got it
15:01:53 [jeffsayre]
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15:01:55 [MacTed]
chair: bblfish
15:02:01 [MacTed]
:-)
15:02:08 [MacTed]
Zakim, unmute me
15:02:08 [Zakim]
MacTed should no longer be muted
15:02:12 [Zakim]
+ +1.650.450.aadd
15:02:44 [MacTed]
RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:02:45 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/18-webid-minutes.html MacTed
15:02:50 [jeffsayre]
Zakim, I'm +1.650.450.aadd
15:02:50 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'I'm +1.650.450.aadd', jeffsayre
15:02:57 [MacTed]
chairnick: bblfish
15:03:03 [MacTed]
RRSAgent, make logs public
15:03:06 [MacTed]
RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:03:06 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/18-webid-minutes.html MacTed
15:03:10 [jeffsayre]
Zakin, jeffsayre is +1.650.450.aaad
15:03:11 [bblfish]
Zakim, jeffsayre is aadd
15:03:11 [Zakim]
sorry, bblfish, I do not recognize a party named 'jeffsayre'
15:03:16 [bblfish]
zakim, pick a scribe
15:03:16 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose bergi
15:03:33 [jeffsayre]
Zakim, member:jeffsayre is +1.650.450.aaad
15:03:33 [Zakim]
sorry, jeffsayre, I do not recognize a party named 'member:jeffsayre'
15:03:41 [MacTed]
scribenick: bergi
15:03:51 [jeffsayre]
Zakin jeffsayre is +1.650.450.aaad
15:03:51 [bblfish]
next agendum
15:03:54 [MacTed]
RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:03:54 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/18-webid-minutes.html MacTed
15:04:03 [MacTed]
scribe: bergi
15:04:11 [MacTed]
RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:04:11 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/18-webid-minutes.html MacTed
15:04:28 [MacTed]
Zakim, aaad is jeffsayre
15:04:28 [Zakim]
sorry, MacTed, I do not recognize a party named 'aaad'
15:04:38 [MacTed]
Zakim, who's here?
15:04:38 [Zakim]
On the phone I see MacTed, scor, bblfish, domel, bergi, +1.650.450.aadd
15:04:43 [MacTed]
Zakim, aadd is jeffsayre
15:04:43 [Zakim]
+jeffsayre; got it
15:04:59 [jeffsayre]
:) Thanks, MacTed.
15:05:06 [bblfish]
+1
15:05:10 [jeffsayre]
+1
15:05:11 [domel]
+1
15:05:11 [bergi]
+1
15:05:24 [bblfish]
RESOLVED: Minutes approved
15:05:31 [bblfish]
agendum next
15:05:36 [bblfish]
next agendum
15:06:03 [scor]
ok for domel to take on that
15:06:56 [bblfish]
close action-34?
15:06:56 [scor]
bblfish: yes, close action 44
15:07:08 [scor]
s/44/34
15:07:15 [scor]
https://github.com/webid-community/webid-spec/commits/master/
15:07:36 [scor]
domel's changes merged and pushed
15:07:43 [bblfish]
mercurial too>
15:08:27 [bblfish]
close ACTION-34
15:08:27 [trackbot]
ACTION-34 Add domel's patch closed
15:09:06 [bblfish]
agendum next
15:09:11 [bblfish]
next agendum
15:09:36 [scor]
bblfish: not really, can you summarize the situation?
15:09:55 [bblfish]
for those who want to check out this overview "What are the main advantages and disadvantages of webid compared to browserid?" http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/5406/what-are-the-main-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-webid-compared-to-browserid/5424
15:11:27 [jeffsayre]
clear
15:12:04 [bergi]
bblfish: browserid started by mozilla
15:12:24 [bergi]
pure javascript, no tls
15:12:48 [bergi]
browser plugin required
15:13:01 [bblfish]
Question: does browser id to work in a distributed fashion need browser plugin or changes?
15:14:14 [bblfish]
Need a javascript expert
15:16:10 [bergi]
running demo available
15:16:17 [bergi]
cert from email provider
15:16:30 [bergi]
cert in json
15:17:11 [bblfish]
Question: where do they put the certificate currently
15:19:54 [bblfish]
Question: if the javascript provided the Relying Party can create a web page that present the user with a set of ids (e-mail to chose from) then how is it possible that those cannot get sent back to the RP?
15:21:56 [domel]
mailto: scheme (defined in RFC 2368) allows to include WebID to mail URI i.e. mailto:domel@example.com?uid=http://example.org/profile#me (this param should be encoded)
15:22:18 [bblfish]
cool domel
15:27:11 [bergi]
browserid check the public key of the signer, webid uses self signed certs
15:27:42 [bergi]
but webid id is flexible
15:27:50 [jeffsayre]
+1
15:28:01 [jeffsayre]
+1 on the understanding, that it!
15:28:55 [jeffsayre]
+q
15:30:00 [bblfish]
jeff
15:30:09 [bergi]
browserid makes email providers naming authorities
15:32:27 [mike]
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15:35:17 [bblfish]
scor?
15:37:35 [bblfish]
yes, I mentioned that here: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/5323/what-are-the-downsides-of-browserid-compared-to-openid-oauth-facebook/5390#5390
15:44:28 [bblfish]
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/5406/what-are-the-main-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-webid-compared-to-browserid/5424
15:47:05 [Zakim]
+??P4
15:48:17 [mike]
I am +??P4
15:50:43 [bblfish]
perhaps ask Nathan look at BrowerId
15:50:55 [bblfish]
or Manu from Digital Bazaar
15:56:11 [bergi]
browserid javascript technology may be interesting for webid
15:59:46 [bblfish]
Issuser Altnateive Names
16:01:09 [Zakim]
-bblfish
16:01:17 [bblfish]
have I gone?
16:01:41 [MacTed]
yes
16:01:51 [MacTed]
and we've just past the hour ... so it may be best to close
16:01:52 [mike]
yes I can't hear you
16:02:06 [jeffsayre]
We should continue later.
16:02:12 [mike]
bye
16:02:13 [bblfish]
later hwne?
16:02:13 [Zakim]
-scor
16:02:19 [Zakim]
-??P4
16:02:23 [jeffsayre]
I will be away from the WebID IRC meeting the next two weeks.
16:02:23 [bblfish]
later when?
16:02:28 [MacTed]
trackbot, end meeting
16:02:28 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
16:02:28 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been +1.781.273.aaaa, MacTed, +1.781.866.aabb, scor, +1.510.931.aacc, domel, bergi, bblfish, +1.650.450.aadd, jeffsayre
16:02:29 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:02:29 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/18-webid-minutes.html trackbot
16:02:30 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
16:02:30 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items