IRC log of htmlspeech on 2011-06-09

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16:02:49 [Robert]
me. apparently you can't hear me. i'll try again...
16:03:14 [burn]
right, never heard you
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jun/0024.html
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Dan: received regrets from Bjorn and Olli
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Chair: Dan Burnett
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Scribe: Raj_Tumuluri
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ScribeNick: Raj
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Meeting: HTML Speech Incubator Group Teleconference
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Date: 9 June 2011
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16:08:29 [mbodell]
people interested in API: Dan Druta, possibly Charles
16:09:32 [Raj]
Topic: F2F minutes, no comments from the participants
16:09:51 [Raj]
Topic: Updated Final Report Document
16:09:54 [burn]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/htmlspeech/live/NOTE-htmlspeech-20110609.html
16:10:56 [Raj]
Dan: Sent updated the document sent few days back with Michael Bodell's comments on use-cases, proposed solutions as well as updates from the last week's call..Any comments?
16:11:09 [Raj]
No comments from the group
16:11:36 [Raj]
Topic: Sub-group reports...start with the protocol group, Robert to start
16:12:12 [Raj]
Robert: Lot of people want to contribute, posted comments to the distribution list..
16:12:12 [Robert]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jun/0002.html
16:13:11 [Raj]
Looking to finalize by August and give 2 weeks for comments
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16:14:36 [Raj]
Robert: General design approach and gleaned requirements on protocols from the requirements docs..draft to be ready in June and refinements in July
16:15:21 [Raj]
Robert: No comments from the group
16:15:23 [Robert]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jun/att-0008/speech-protocol-basic-approach-01.html
16:16:01 [Raj]
Robert: Overall design approach: use web-sockets transport, text msgs for signaling and binary for media, included the proposal link
16:16:29 [Raj]
Robert: Control msgs will be based on MRCP
16:16:49 [Raj]
Robert: In the coming weeks flesh this out..
16:17:34 [Robert]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jun/0020.html
16:18:32 [Raj]
Robert: Next steps to refine the design : Next week, Milan is going to compile a sub-set of MRCP for HTML+Speech, and then identify any other control msgs, we may need, in parallel look at media translation
16:19:08 [Raj]
Robert: Will provide an update next week
16:19:55 [Raj]
Michael_: audio
16:20:43 [Raj]
Robert: Requirements list is another topic:
16:21:01 [Robert]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jun/att-0011/protocol-reqs.html
16:21:54 [Raj]
Robert: Marc has sifted through this and slotted those for easy reading..
16:22:23 [Robert]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jun/0019.html
16:22:35 [Robert]
those are my comments
16:22:35 [Raj]
Robert: Some of these requirements may be invalid, given our recent discussions, encourage others to go through
16:23:04 [Raj]
Dan: We are missing 2 of our browser vendors today, afraid we may not be able to make any design decisions today...
16:23:19 [Raj]
Dan: May be better to defer that for the next call when they are there...
16:24:22 [Raj]
Robet: OK with that..certainly comments I re-wrote were discussed at F2F and subsequently..since most of those are re-phrased, there may not be anything controversial
16:25:35 [Raj]
Michael_: DD35 may need to be reviewed
16:26:27 [Raj]
Dan: We will let people review and comment by next week..since it is only correction and not anything new..
16:27:26 [Raj]
Dan: Some of the requirements are left in general section...need to review the grouping etc..based on the design-decisions we need to make on them
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16:28:02 [Raj]
Robert: If anybody has any observations, and identify changes, that will help in the prep of next draft
16:28:55 [Raj]
Robert: This is not the complete list, Marc has the protocol related list
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16:30:04 [Raj]
Marc: It would not be right choice to move them all to protocol section...keep numbering intact...lot of legacy reqs..present..feel it needs to updated to reflect the latest position
16:30:48 [Raj]
Dan: Will schedule something in the comign weeks
16:31:15 [Raj]
Topic: Report from WebAPI group, Michael Bodell to present update
16:31:39 [burn]
Michael's plan: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jun/0021.html
16:32:31 [Raj]
mbodell: posted the update last night...most participants are not on the call..want to make sure that the list of participants updated as well..
16:32:59 [Raj]
Dan: I am in both Protocol and WebAPI..
16:34:46 [Raj]
mbodell: Bjorn, dan, dahl, olli, mbodell, danD, Charles
16:34:55 [Raj]
Raj: I will be in protocol group
16:35:35 [Raj]
Robert: We have many people, they may not have enough work to write..but can review
16:36:18 [Raj]
mbodell: Produce something similar to what Marc produced for Protocol for WebAPI, on design decisions and appraches
16:36:45 [Raj]
mbodell: identify and obtain concensus on parameters, events and naming..
16:37:38 [Raj]
mbodell: markup bindings, associations, need to agree what we can agree and document what we cannot agree on that..
16:38:29 [Raj]
mbodell: we may also consider having a group call a la protocol group...for now can do this through email..
16:39:18 [Raj]
Dan: makes sense, I would object to adding another half hour to this call...should you really need we can accommodate that as part of the existing call itself..and allocated 30 minutes for that
16:39:25 [Raj]
mbodell: OK with that..
16:40:16 [Raj]
mbodell: design decisions: other than markup bindings, there were no major decisions..
16:40:53 [Raj]
Dan: IDL and boundaries decisions needed some review..any update on decisions
16:42:04 [Raj]
mbodell: we may say nBest number and create a prooperty describe that in text..
16:42:32 [Raj]
mbodell: functions to do the recog., results and text to describe
16:43:22 [Raj]
Dan: Agreeing on basic design approach need not be today..but, I see mbodell expects to agree on the approach today and flesh out details in subgroup..any objections?
16:44:01 [Raj]
Robert: Only concern is that key people ( browser vendors) are not on call.( Olli and Bjorn)
16:44:27 [Raj]
Dan: Olli's concerns were around security and he may not have objections to approach
16:44:55 [Raj]
mbodell: if group doesn't agree completely, then we will document the objections/disagreements
16:45:32 [Raj]
Dan: Noted that there is general consensus, noting Google and Mozilla may be orthogonal
16:45:58 [Raj]
mbodell: Javascript recognition result is the point of concern
16:46:42 [Raj]
mbodell: the objections Olli has may not affect the rest of the approach
16:47:01 [Raj]
Dan: if they affect the rest of the API, that can be resolved in sub-group
16:47:30 [Raj]
mbodell: yes, and if any new objections are found, they can be discussed in subgroup too
16:47:31 [burn]
actually, point of concern is not JS reco result, but how you bind to HTML markup
16:48:21 [Raj]
Dan: Any other comments from anybody ? Since we are missing key browser vendors, am concerned about moving forward with design decisions
16:48:44 [Raj]
mbodell: reviewing the design requirements for APIs ( a la Marc's work on protocol)
16:49:14 [Raj]
mbodell: any volunteers
16:49:22 [Raj]
I volunteer for that
16:50:32 [Raj]
mbodell: another task that needs a volunteer is how to handle results from continuous reco, grammar conversation, IDL and text etc..we can do that in parallel
16:52:02 [Raj]
Dan_Druta: we discussed at F2F capabilities and that also needs to be fleshed ..and volunteer to do that..
16:52:57 [Raj]
dahl: put skeleton document on what needs to be fleshed and assign people to sections
16:53:07 [Raj]
mobdell & Dan_Druita: agree
16:53:41 [Raj]
ddahl: want to look at the list and pick that are most interesting ;-)
16:54:04 [Raj]
mbodell: to prepare the list and circulate
16:54:38 [Raj]
Dan: prepared to postpone remaining items to next week..anything else to discuss today?
16:54:55 [Raj]
Dan: thanks group
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16:55:23 [burn]
zakim, bye?
16:55:23 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, burn.
16:55:26 [burn]
zakim, bye
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Present: Dan_Burnett, Raj_Tumuluri, Michael_Bodell, Paolo_Baggia, Patrick_Ehlen, Michael_Johnston, Marc_Schroeder, Milan_Young, Dan_Druta, Charles_Hemphill, Robert_Brown, Debbie_Dahl
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Regrets: Bjorn_Bringert, Olli_Pettay
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rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/09-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
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rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items