IRC log of rdb2rdf on 2011-02-08

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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7322733
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ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 15 minutes
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Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:45:37 [trackbot]
Date: 08 February 2011
16:45:45 [mhausenblas]
Chair: Michael
16:45:49 [mhausenblas]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Feb/0039.html
16:45:58 [mhausenblas]
regrets+ Ashok
16:46:04 [mhausenblas]
regrets+ Nuno
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regrets+ Seema
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regrets+ Alexandre
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regrets+ Richard
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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16:57:00 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, pick a victim
16:57:00 [Zakim]
sorry, mhausenblas, I don't know what conference this is
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SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
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+ +1.314.394.aaaa
16:59:35 [juansequeda]
mhausenblas, I might not be able to call in. So I'll be just *listening* through irc
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+mhausenblas
17:00:32 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aaaa is dmcneil
17:00:32 [Zakim]
+dmcneil; got it
17:00:49 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, pick a victim
17:00:49 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose mhausenblas
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+??P5
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Zakim, ??P5 is soeren
17:00:58 [Zakim]
+soeren; got it
17:01:11 [ivan]
zakim, dial ivan-voip
17:01:11 [Zakim]
ok, ivan; the call is being made
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+Ivan
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+ +1.781.273.aabb
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:01:43 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-415
17:01:43 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; the call is being made
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+EricP
17:01:53 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aabb is MacTed
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+MacTed; got it
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+??P17
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Zakim, ??P17 is privera
17:02:24 [Zakim]
+privera; got it
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+ +49.133.6.aacc
17:02:38 [privera]
Zakim, mute me
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privera should now be muted
17:02:45 [MacTed]
Zakim, MacTed is OpenLink_Software
17:02:45 [Zakim]
+OpenLink_Software; got it
17:02:45 [MacTed]
Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
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+MacTed; got it
17:02:49 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aacc is boris
17:02:49 [Zakim]
+boris; got it
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Zakim, mute me
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MacTed should now be muted
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scribenick: ericP
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Topic: Admin
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PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
17:04:39 [boris]
+1
17:04:39 [ericP]
+1
17:04:57 [Zakim]
+ +1.603.897.aadd
17:05:06 [Souri]
aadd is me
17:05:07 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aadd is Souri
17:05:08 [Zakim]
+Souri; got it
17:05:30 [ericP]
RESOLVED: http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html is a record of the last meeting
17:06:04 [ericP]
mhausenblas: SemTech session not accepted
17:06:08 [mhausenblas]
http://www.w3.org/2011/03/w3c-track.html
17:06:18 [ericP]
... can we exploit the W3C track at WWW2011?
17:06:51 [ericP]
ivan: W3C has to pick two major topics for the track. those have already been announced
17:07:30 [ericP]
... you can ask mcf, but at WWW2010, both days were consumed by the two announced topics
17:07:43 [ericP]
... i plan to be at WWW2011, happy to jump in
17:08:07 [mhausenblas]
ACTION: mhausenb to ask Marie-Claire Forgue if there is a chance to present or discuss RDB2RDF at the W3C track at WWW2011
17:08:07 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-100 - Ask Marie-Claire Forgue if there is a chance to present or discuss RDB2RDF at the W3C track at WWW2011 [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2011-02-15].
17:08:16 [ericP]
... perhaps a workshop has a slot for an e.g. panel
17:08:32 [Zakim]
-soeren
17:09:03 [Zakim]
+??P5
17:09:15 [soeren]
zakim, ??P5 is soeren
17:09:15 [Zakim]
+soeren; got it
17:09:37 [ericP]
mhausenblas: would be happy to have an RDB2RDF sandwich board
17:10:35 [ericP]
ACTION: ivan, mhausenblas to investigate alternatives at SemTech
17:10:35 [trackbot]
Sorry, couldn't find user - ivan,
17:10:40 [mhausenblas]
Topic: R2RML status
17:10:58 [ericP]
ACTION: ivan to investigate alternatives at SemTech
17:10:58 [trackbot]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - ivan
17:10:58 [trackbot]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. ivan, imikhail)
17:11:34 [ericP]
ACTION: herman to investigate alternatives at SemTech
17:11:34 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-101 - Investigate alternatives at SemTech [on Ivan Herman - due 2011-02-15].
17:11:48 [mhausenblas]
ACTION-92?
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ACTION-92 -- Richard Cyganiak to address the R2RML - DM connection -- due 2011-02-08 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/92
17:12:01 [mhausenblas]
ACTION-93?
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ACTION-93 -- Souripriya Das to identify not-mapping vs. default-mapping issues in R2RML/DM (Wiki or via mail) -- due 2011-02-08 -- OPEN
17:12:01 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/93
17:12:23 [ericP]
Souri: some progress
17:12:43 [Souri]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Use_of_Direct_Mapping_in_R2RML
17:13:13 [ericP]
-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Use_of_Direct_Mapping_in_R2RML Use of Direct Mapping in R2RML
17:13:46 [ericP]
Souri: say we have triples map with a subject map and one or more predicate object maps
17:14:11 [ericP]
... it becomes tedious to list PO maps for each column
17:14:55 [ivan]
q+
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-EricP
17:16:04 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:16:13 [Zakim]
+EricP
17:16:38 [Zakim]
-EricP
17:16:57 [Zakim]
+EricP
17:17:10 [Zakim]
-EricP
17:17:33 [ivan]
q+
17:17:50 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:17:53 [ivan]
q-
17:18:03 [mhausenblas]
scribenick: mhausenblas
17:18:11 [Zakim]
+EricP
17:18:23 [mhausenblas]
Michael: fine, let's give Souri a bit more time to flesh out details
17:19:00 [mhausenblas]
Ivan: I think Michael and Souri are talking about the same thing (continuum from DM to full R2RML)
17:19:22 [ericP]
soeren: would like to see a directive to enable default mapping
17:19:30 [mhausenblas]
scribenick: ericP
17:19:34 [ericP]
soeren: would like to see a directive to enable default mapping
17:19:38 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:20:09 [ericP]
Souri: looking at bullet one, PO maps include direct mapping
17:20:27 [ericP]
... second bullet includes r2rml:exclude
17:21:05 [ericP]
... third bullet has r2rml:includes -- start empty and include explicitly include columns
17:21:30 [mhausenblas]
ACTION-96?
17:21:30 [trackbot]
ACTION-96 -- Richard Cyganiak to capture this (multiple subject maps) and other (future) potential error cases in the Wiki (ISSUE-16) -- due 2011-02-08 -- OPEN
17:21:30 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/96
17:21:32 [ericP]
mhausenblas: action remains open
17:21:41 [mhausenblas]
ACTION-97?
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ACTION-97 -- Richard Cyganiak to look into D2RQ implementation and update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Entity_disambiguation -- due 2011-02-08 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/97
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17:22:29 [ericP]
Souri: in the last meeting, we discussed blank nodes in the direct mapping
17:22:37 [MacTed]
Zakim, unmute me
17:22:37 [Zakim]
MacTed should no longer be muted
17:22:39 [mhausenblas]
ISSUE-9?
17:22:39 [trackbot]
ISSUE-9 -- Generate Blank Nodes for duplicate tuples -- open
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/9
17:22:43 [ericP]
... stimulated discussion
17:22:49 [boris_]
why we don't collect all the possibilities on a wiki page? (regarding blank nodes)
17:22:59 [ericP]
s/stimulated discussion/stimulated email discussion/
17:23:00 [soeren]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/9
17:23:49 [ivan]
q+
17:23:56 [MacTed]
q+
17:24:03 [ericP]
soeren: i have the impression that we are divided on bnodes
17:24:41 [ericP]
q+ to ask how non-repeatable "persistent" identifiers can be used
17:24:55 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:25:05 [mhausenblas]
q+ to remind on our charter
17:25:08 [ericP]
soeren: some don't want them for linked data reasons
17:25:24 [ericP]
ivan: i feel we should remain as we have it
17:25:39 [ericP]
... direct mapping philosophy assumes another layer of massage
17:26:05 [ericP]
... if i want to push data into an LD environment, the second stage can take care of it
17:26:19 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:26:31 [ericP]
... if we eliminate bnodes, it will be complicated to generate URIs for what are currently bnodes
17:27:01 [ericP]
... 'cause we need to communicate to folks (via e.g. url scheme) that this node is effectively a bnode
17:27:38 [boris_]
yes
17:27:43 [mhausenblas]
ack MacTed
17:27:55 [ericP]
mhausenblas, has this anything to do with r2rml?
17:28:34 [ericP]
MacTed: guidance around bnodes is that we want to avoid them 'cause they cause trouble down the line
17:29:04 [mhausenblas]
ack ericP
17:29:04 [Zakim]
ericP, you wanted to ask how non-repeatable "persistent" identifiers can be used
17:29:10 [MacTed]
Zakim, mute me
17:29:10 [Zakim]
MacTed should now be muted
17:29:12 [mhausenblas]
scribenick: mhausenblas
17:29:27 [mhausenblas]
ericP: in the relational model we have IDs for tupels
17:29:41 [mhausenblas]
... using PK to identify a tuple
17:30:06 [mhausenblas]
... if we have some data via DM and we advertise some IDs other than the PK, it might no longer be valid
17:30:34 [mhausenblas]
... so we have a unreliable URI if tuple changes
17:30:38 [ivan]
+1 to Eric
17:31:08 [mhausenblas]
ericP: so bNodes are the only reliable mechanism for tuples that might change
17:31:11 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:31:44 [mhausenblas]
ericP: so, I'm all for preserving the current status
17:31:46 [MacTed]
q+
17:32:02 [MacTed]
Zakim, unmute me
17:32:02 [Zakim]
MacTed should no longer be muted
17:32:20 [ericP]
mhausenblas: our charter says we have to be linked-data-friendly
17:32:34 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:32:38 [mhausenblas]
ack MacTed
17:32:56 [mhausenblas]
scribenick: ericP
17:32:57 [ericP]
MacTed: there is a temporality to RDB-contained data
17:33:05 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:33:49 [ericP]
... the graphs captured should reflect that temporarility
17:33:54 [ivan]
q+
17:34:00 [mhausenblas]
ack me
17:34:00 [Zakim]
mhausenblas, you wanted to remind on our charter
17:34:02 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:34:15 [ericP]
ericP: but these syntehtic identifiers can't be used
17:34:35 [Souri]
q+
17:34:58 [ericP]
MacTed: you can have a document which describes this identifer, giving a time windows
17:35:25 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:35:27 [MacTed]
Zakim, mute me
17:35:27 [Zakim]
MacTed should now be muted
17:35:31 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:35:32 [Zakim]
-soeren
17:35:56 [ericP]
ivan: blank nodes issue came up at RDFNext
17:36:02 [Zakim]
+??P4
17:36:06 [mhausenblas]
ACTION: Ted to sum up the possibilities for generating reliable URIs for DM (to avoid bNodes) on the Wiki
17:36:06 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-102 - Sum up the possibilities for generating reliable URIs for DM (to avoid bNodes) on the Wiki [on Ted Thibodeau - due 2011-02-15].
17:36:11 [ivan]
http://bnode.w3.org/UUID-based-ID
17:36:13 [soeren]
zakim, +??P4 is soeren
17:36:13 [Zakim]
sorry, soeren, I do not recognize a party named '+??P4'
17:36:19 [ericP]
... david booth proposed a URI scheme for anonymous nodes
17:36:28 [soeren]
zakim, ??P4 is soeren
17:36:28 [Zakim]
+soeren; got it
17:36:42 [ericP]
... if a client sees that URI, they can dereference it but get something which which isn't very informative
17:36:57 [MacTed]
that is a potentially viable suggestion...
17:37:03 [ericP]
... if we want to do this, we have to precisely define this URI scheme
17:37:10 [MacTed]
much like the canonical variable names -- foo, bar, blat, thud...
17:37:11 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:37:16 [mhausenblas]
ack Souri
17:37:52 [ericP]
Souri: some RDBs have a persistent identifier, e.g. Oracle's rowid
17:38:08 [ericP]
... but what if the table gets moved? we can't use it as an identifer anymore
17:38:23 [ericP]
... but we need to communicate that it may suddenly disappear
17:38:27 [Souri]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Feb/0035.html
17:38:34 [ericP]
... i.e. that it's not so reliable
17:38:54 [ericP]
... i tried to compare the bnode and the synthetic URI cases
17:39:31 [ericP]
... if we're returning this URI based on a uniqe sequence number from a query, or returning a bnode, neither can be used again
17:39:47 [ivan]
zakim, mute me
17:39:47 [Zakim]
Ivan should now be muted
17:39:55 [ericP]
q+ to ask what is the motivation to assign URIs which we can't re-use?
17:40:04 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:40:10 [MacTed]
that also covers the temporal nature
17:40:12 [mhausenblas]
ack ericP
17:40:12 [Zakim]
ericP, you wanted to ask what is the motivation to assign URIs which we can't re-use?
17:40:17 [ivan]
I think that Souri's description is indeed close to David's approach
17:41:39 [ivan]
q+
17:41:43 [ericP]
ericP: if we don't have an identifier for a row, why do we want to pretend we have an identifier
17:41:49 [ericP]
mhausenblas: need to work out in use cases
17:41:49 [ivan]
ack ivan
17:41:50 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:42:23 [ericP]
ivan: besides saying "we don't want blank nodes 'cause the linked data doesn't like them", we need more arguments
17:42:54 [ericP]
... on the wiki page [mhausenblas's request], we need use cases
17:44:31 [mhausenblas]
Michael: some if not all of our use cases (http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-rdb2rdf-ucr-20100608/) require to have linkable resources
17:44:35 [ericP]
... i understand that in many cases i prefer to use an identifier
17:45:08 [ericP]
soeren: perhaps a compromise is to allow one to use a rowid if there is one
17:45:22 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:45:47 [ivan]
q+
17:45:59 [Souri]
q+
17:46:02 [mhausenblas]
q+ to propose a solution
17:46:07 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:46:46 [ericP]
ivan: Souri came up with a schems with an R2RML with exceptions
17:47:11 [Souri]
+1
17:47:18 [mhausenblas]
ack Souri
17:47:19 [ericP]
... so can't i create a mapping which defines only row (subject) identifiers, they can do it in five lines
17:47:34 [MacTed]
default bnode? danger lies ahead...
17:47:48 [ericP]
Souri: yes, you can create a logical table using the rowid
17:48:08 [mhausenblas]
PROPOSAL: The DM does not try to define URI-creation, this is topic of and must be done via R2RML
17:48:10 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:48:15 [mhausenblas]
ack me
17:48:15 [Zakim]
mhausenblas, you wanted to propose a solution
17:48:25 [ericP]
... per ivan's point, you can create a tiny mapping which is 99% direct mapping
17:49:04 [mhausenblas]
PROPOSAL: The DM does not try to define URI-creation when there is no PK, this is topic of and must be done via R2RML
17:49:15 [ericP]
+1
17:49:17 [ivan]
+1
17:49:48 [ericP]
',' should be a';'
17:50:09 [MacTed]
+1, with eric's change
17:50:09 [MacTed]
:-)
17:50:09 [dmcneil]
q+
17:50:30 [mhausenblas]
ack dmcneil
17:50:57 [MacTed]
in fact, it's true -- PK is also temporal...
17:51:01 [ericP]
dmcneil, why is the URI creation when there isn't a PK so differnt from when there is one
17:51:13 [MacTed]
Zakim, unmute me
17:51:13 [Zakim]
MacTed should no longer be muted
17:51:14 [ericP]
dmcneil: why is the URI creation when there isn't a PK so differnt from when there is one?
17:51:18 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:51:29 [ivan]
zakim, mute me
17:51:29 [Zakim]
Ivan should now be muted
17:51:40 [MacTed]
q+
17:52:02 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:52:44 [mhausenblas]
ack MacTed
17:53:54 [ericP]
MacTed: PK can change over time
17:54:08 [Souri]
pkey change implies a resource disappears, a new resource appears => not much we can do about it
17:54:35 [ericP]
soeren: so ericP is assuming that PKs are stable and MacTed is assuming they're not
17:54:46 [boris_]
nothing lasts forever
17:54:55 [ericP]
mhausenblas: if you want to have reliable URIs, we need to use R2RML
17:55:43 [ericP]
MacTed: if you push URIs out of DM into R2RML, you've killed DM
17:56:10 [ericP]
... PK may be defined in the schema or interprated in the application layer
17:56:24 [ericP]
... every DB has to have a row id, but it doesn't have to expose them
17:56:50 [ericP]
... in my perfect world, there are attributes which are valid at a point in time
17:57:07 [privera]
zakim, who is noise?
17:57:07 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, privera.
17:57:15 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who's making noise?
17:57:26 [Zakim]
mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: soeren (32%), MacTed (63%)
17:57:29 [ericP]
... there's a named graph associated with the identifer and the named graph is valid for a given time
17:57:39 [soeren]
zakim, mute me
17:57:39 [Zakim]
soeren should now be muted
17:58:06 [ivan]
zakim, mute me
17:58:06 [Zakim]
Ivan was already muted, ivan
17:58:46 [ericP]
mhausenblas: resolution requires MacTed's response to action 102
17:58:51 [mhausenblas]
ACTION-102?
17:58:51 [trackbot]
ACTION-102 -- Ted Thibodeau to sum up the possibilities for generating reliable URIs for DM (to avoid bNodes) on the Wiki -- due 2011-02-15 -- OPEN
17:58:51 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/102
17:59:00 [MacTed]
ACTION-102?
17:59:00 [trackbot]
Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
17:59:06 [MacTed]
silly scroll...
17:59:50 [mhausenblas]
Topic: Test Cases
17:59:52 [mhausenblas]
http://this-db-really.does-not-exist.org/
18:00:04 [boris_]
thanks again Eric!
18:00:16 [ericP]
ADJOURNED
18:00:40 [ivan]
zakim, drop me
18:00:40 [Zakim]
Ivan is being disconnected
18:00:42 [Zakim]
-Ivan
18:00:42 [ericP]
next meeting: next week, next chair: ashok
18:00:47 [ericP]
Zakim, please draft minutes
18:00:47 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'please draft minutes', ericP
18:00:48 [Zakim]
-Souri
18:00:48 [Zakim]
-privera
18:00:56 [Zakim]
-soeren
18:01:06 [mhausenblas]
Michael: regrets for the next two meetings (on travel)
18:01:07 [Zakim]
-dmcneil
18:01:13 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:01:13 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:01:26 [ericP]
The DM does not try to define URI-creation when there is no PK, this is topic of and must be done via R2RML
18:01:38 [ericP]
http://this-db-really.does-not-exist.org/
18:01:59 [mhausenblas]
trackbot, end telecon
18:01:59 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
18:01:59 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been +1.314.394.aaaa, mhausenblas, dmcneil, soeren, Ivan, +1.781.273.aabb, EricP, privera, +49.133.6.aacc, MacTed, boris, +1.603.897.aadd, Souri
18:02:00 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:02:00 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-minutes.html trackbot
18:02:01 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: mhausenb to ask Marie-Claire Forgue if there is a chance to present or discuss RDB2RDF at the W3C track at WWW2011 [1]
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-08-07
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: ivan, mhausenblas to investigate alternatives at SemTech [2]
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-10-35
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: ivan to investigate alternatives at SemTech [3]
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-10-58
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: herman to investigate alternatives at SemTech [4]
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-11-34
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Ted to sum up the possibilities for generating reliable URIs for DM (to avoid bNodes) on the Wiki [5]
18:02:01 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-36-06