15:14:24 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #aapi
15:14:24 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/01/06-aapi-irc
15:15:06 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #aapi
15:15:25 <Andi> zakim, this will be aapi
15:15:25 <Zakim> ok, Andi, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM already started
15:15:45 <Andi> rrsagent, make logs public
15:15:56 <Andi> rrsagent, make log world
15:16:06 <Andi> Scribe: Andi
15:16:21 <Andi> Chair: Cynthia
15:16:35 <Andi> Meeting: AAPI
15:16:52 <Andi> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2010Dec/0006.html
15:17:22 <cyns> cyns has joined #aapi
15:17:24 <davidb> i don't have a way to dial in
15:17:37 <cyns> dowload skype?
15:17:47 <Andi> rrsagent, off
15:18:35 <davidb> the IP phones are unhappy with our current bandwidth from the toronto office
15:18:52 <Andi> topic: but 11513 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11513
15:21:25 <cyns> aapi# is the passcod
15:21:44 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_role_table
15:22:16 <cyns> cyns has joined #aapi
15:27:25 <Andi> in Section 5.3, change "User agents MAY also expose the WAI-ARIA data through
15:27:25 <Andi> this API even when there is a direct mapping to an accessibility API." to account for the MUST requirement for roles. "User agents MUST also expose the entire role string through this mechanism and MAY also expose other WAI-ARIA attributes and values through this API even when there is a direct mapping to an accessibility API."
15:27:31 <Zakim> +??P30
15:28:09 <Andi> topic: new schedule
15:28:15 <davidb> Zakim, ??P30 is David_Bolter
15:28:15 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
15:31:58 <Andi> Jan 14 - bugs done
15:32:14 <Andi> Jan 20 - most edits done by Andi and final discussion
15:32:28 <Andi> Jan 24 - final edits done and Michael can begin the publication process
15:33:45 <Andi> Michael notes that W3C only publishes on Tuesdays and Thursdays so publication would be on February 1st
15:33:56 <Andi> s/Jan 24/Jan 25/
15:35:49 <Andi> Cynthia can't meet on Jan 20th, move meeting to the 21st
15:36:12 <Andi> Jan 21 - most edits done by Andi and final discussion
15:36:23 <Andi> CS: Jan 14th might be too aggressive to finish all bugs
15:36:39 <Andi> AS: get some to me by the 14th, and dribble the rest in until the 18th
15:37:20 <Andi> topic: 11515 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11515
15:39:06 <Andi> CS: IE implementation does not change depending on the value of aria-relevant
15:39:16 <Andi> DB: neither does Mozilla
15:47:31 <Andi> topic: bug 11512 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11512
15:48:06 <Andi> IE does not trim out the tree when aria-hidden is true, sets STATE_SYSTEM_INVISIBLE
15:48:22 <Andi> DB: James is the one who feels strongly that the tree should be trimmed out
15:54:50 <Andi> CS: can we change this to a SHOULD
15:55:02 <Andi> CS: think it should be a MAY
15:55:13 <Andi> c/CS: can we/DB: can we/
15:57:21 <Andi> DB: don't think this is the browser's job. 
15:57:49 <Andi> CS: if author has done it wrong, if you trim it from the tree, then there is no work around for the AT
15:58:48 <Andi> CS: worst case scenario is that focus goes to something with aria-hidden="true" but then it's not in the accessibility tree
15:59:31 <Andi> CS: would be difficult to get IE to change, seems like this should be in the hands of the AT
15:59:58 <Andi> action: Andi to discuss with Rich to see if it's a problem if we change it to MAY
16:00:26 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
16:00:30 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
16:00:31 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:00:31 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has ended
16:00:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Andi_Snow-Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly, David_Bolter
16:00:33 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:00:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/06-aapi-minutes.html Andi
16:00:39 <Andi> zakim, bye
16:00:39 <Zakim> Zakim has left #aapi
16:01:14 <Andi> s/but 11513/bug 11513/
16:01:37 <Andi> s/11515 http/bug 11515 http/
16:01:41 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:01:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/06-aapi-minutes.html Andi
16:02:18 <Andi> s/i don't have a way to dial in//
16:02:28 <Andi> s/dowload skype?//
16:02:39 <Andi> s/the IP phones are unhappy with our current bandwidth from the toronto office//
16:02:50 <Andi> s/aapi# is the passcod//
16:02:55 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/06-aapi-minutes.html Andi
16:15:29 <Andi> Andi has left #aapi
17:09:03 <Laura> Laura has joined #aapi