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15:58:40 <kliehm> zakim, this is 2119
15:58:40 <Zakim> kliehm, I see WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be 2119".
15:58:52 <kliehm> zakim, this will be 2119
15:58:52 <Zakim> ok, kliehm; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
15:59:30 <kliehm> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Bug-Triage
15:59:31 <kliehm> Chair: Martin_Kliehm
15:59:33 <kliehm> agenda: this
15:59:34 <kliehm> agenda+ Review of Joshue's remaining bugs 10779, 10780, 10781, 10782, 10783, 10784
15:59:36 <kliehm> agenda+ Review of Martin's bugs 10896, 10903, 10905, 10906, 10914, 10915, 10916, 10917, 10918, 10919, 10921, 10927
15:59:37 <kliehm> agenda+ Assign homework: gap analysis of accessible fallbacks for embedded content
15:59:39 <kliehm> agenda+ be done 
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16:00:08 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM has now started
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16:01:05 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Nov/0104.html
16:01:43 <Marco_Ranon> hi all. on my way. usual question.... skype or zakim?
16:01:58 <MichaelC> present: Martin_Kliehm, Joshue_O'Connor, Michael_Cooper, Marco_Ranon
16:02:39 <Marco_Ranon> hi Martin, yes please
16:02:43 <Marco_Ranon> i can see you 
16:04:24 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10779
16:04:54 <Joshue> Bug 10779 - triggering the Action of the command via accesskey [7 ] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10779
16:07:50 <Marco_Ranon> add a11y_focus keyword and assign to GJR
16:10:34 <Joshue> Bug 10780 - reference to definition of Action insufficient for definition of accesskey
16:24:09 <kliehm> The HTML a11y bug triage sub-team thinks Gregory should provide more information. 10888 would be the master bug for all accesskey related issues.
16:26:30 <kliehm> s/hi Martin, yes please//
16:27:09 <kliehm> s/i can see you//
16:27:24 <kliehm> rrsagent, make minutes
16:27:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-a11y-bugs-minutes.html kliehm
16:28:13 <kliehm> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
16:28:15 <Joshue> Bug 10781 - are accesskeys case sensitive?
16:28:36 <Joshue> Bug accepted. Checked in as WHATWG revision r5571.
16:29:08 <Joshue> Bug 10782 - problems with button example for accesskey
16:29:15 <Joshue> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10782
16:32:36 <Joshue>  The HTML a11y bug triage sub-team thinks Gregory should file seperate bugs for each of these issues. 10888 would be the master bug for all accesskey related issues.
16:32:48 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10783
16:32:55 <Joshue> Bug 10783 - change summary from an attribute to an element
16:33:02 <Joshue> Dupe of bug 10784
16:34:36 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10784
16:35:44 <Joshue> Bug 10784 - change summary from an attribute to an element
16:35:54 <Joshue> This is a valid request, suggest escalating to HTML A11ytf.
16:39:18 <kliehm> Bug #10896: Enable device independent access to event handlers
16:39:20 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10896
16:40:29 <kliehm> STATUS: NEW, now assigned to DOM events group, a11ytf keyword already present. No action required.
16:40:47 <kliehm> Bug #10903: Provide an introduction to wai-aria in the wai aria section of the spec
16:40:49 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10903 
16:42:53 <kliehm> The bug is in good hands, already an issue, adding a11yTF keyword.
16:42:57 <kliehm> Bug #10905: Clarify how assigning an accesskey to an element affects the elements default role
16:42:59 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 
16:44:38 <kliehm> Bug has been taken care of in the past, no action required
16:44:42 <kliehm> Bug #10906: Make the conforming use of placeholder dependent on the presence of a label
16:44:43 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10906 
16:51:31 <Marco_Ranon> The placeholder attribute
16:51:33 <Marco_Ranon> This attribute can be used on form elements to predefine text that disappears as soon as the field gets focus. It#s a visual indication of what is expected in the field. If, and only if, the field has no label otherwise, this placeholder text will be used to generate the AccessibleName, the name the screen reader speaks for the field when it gains focus. If the field has a label provided by...
16:51:34 <Marco_Ranon> ...the label element or an ARIA construct, the placeholder text will be ignored.
16:56:22 <kliehm> Bug #10914: Allow multiple space separated values for the ARIA role attribute
16:56:24 <kliehm> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10914 
17:00:57 <kliehm> Adding a11yTF keyword, assigning to Steve Faulkner.
17:05:07 <kliehm> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/content-models.html#embedded-content-0
17:06:24 <kliehm> Homework: look at embedded content and compare fallback mechanisms and exposure to AT.
17:07:02 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM has ended
17:07:04 <Zakim> Attendees were 
17:07:25 <kliehm> rrsagent, make minutes
17:07:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-a11y-bugs-minutes.html kliehm
17:08:29 <kliehm> s/agenda: this/TOPIC: Bug reviews/
17:08:32 <kliehm> rrsagent, make minutes
17:08:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-a11y-bugs-minutes.html kliehm
17:09:44 <kliehm> s/Homework: look/TOPIC: Homework: look/
17:10:11 <kliehm> scribe: Martin_Kliehm, Joshue_O_Connor
17:10:13 <kliehm> rrsagent, make minutes
17:10:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-a11y-bugs-minutes.html kliehm
17:11:15 <kliehm> scribe: Marco_Ranon
17:11:17 <kliehm> rrsagent, make minutes
17:11:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-a11y-bugs-minutes.html kliehm
17:12:06 <kliehm> s/hi all. on my way. usual question.... skype or zakim?//
17:12:10 <kliehm> rrsagent, make minutes
17:12:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/09-a11y-bugs-minutes.html kliehm
17:13:29 <kliehm> zakim, please part
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17:13:38 <kliehm> rrsagent, please part
17:13:38 <RRSAgent> I see no action items