IRC log of au on 2010-09-27
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/09/27-au-irc
- 19:53:38 [Jan]
- Zakim, this will be AUWG
- 19:53:38 [Zakim]
- ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 53 minutes ago
- 19:53:43 [Jan]
- Meeting: WAI AU
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JulSep/0100.html
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- Chair: Jutta Treviranus
- 20:01:31 [Jan]
- zakim, code?
- 20:01:31 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Jan
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- WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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- +??P3
- 20:02:24 [Jan]
- zakim, ??P3 is really Jan
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- +Jan; got it
- 20:02:50 [jeanne]
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +Jeanne
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is really JuttaT
- 20:05:11 [Zakim]
- +JuttaT; got it
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- +Greg_Pisocky
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- -Greg_Pisocky
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- Scribe: Jan
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- line went dead
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- Topic: 2. Discussion of any action items sent in
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- Greg are you calling back?
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- JR: Reads from: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JulSep/0097.html
- 20:18:21 [Jan]
- JR: Key part is third sentence in note 1: Note 1: This exception relates to the underlying function, not the input technique. For example, if using handwriting to enter text, the input technique (handwriting) requires path-dependent input but the underlying function (text input) does not. *The path exception encompasses other input variables that are continuously sampled from pointing...
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- ...devices, including pressure, speed, and angle.*
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- Hi Greg
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- -Jeanne
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- +Jeanne
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- JS: I liked the wording
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- + +1.703.678.aaaa
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- +Tim_Boland
- 20:21:48 [Jan]
- zakim, aaaa is really Greg
- 20:21:48 [Zakim]
- +Greg; got it
- 20:23:23 [Jan]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JulSep/0097.html
- 20:23:34 [Jan]
- Note 1: This exception relates to the underlying function, not the input technique. For example, if using handwriting to enter text, the input technique (handwriting) requires path-dependent input but the underlying function (text input) does not. *The path exception encompasses other input variables that are continuously sampled from pointing devices, including pressure, speed, and angle.*
- 20:29:01 [Jan]
- JR: Also change "All functionality of the content is operable " to "All functionality of the authoring tool is operable "
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- Resolution: Accept: 2.1.1 Keyboard: All functionality of the authoring tool is operable through a keyboard interface without requiring specific timings for individual keystrokes, except where the underlying function requires input that depends on the path of the user's movement and not just the endpoints. (Level A) Note 1: This exception relates to the underlying function, not the input...
- 20:29:44 [Jan]
- ...technique. For example, if using handwriting to enter text, the input technique (handwriting) requires path-dependent input but the underlying function (text input) does not. *The path exception encompasses other input variables that are continuously sampled from pointing devices, including pressure, speed, and angle.* Note 2: This does not forbid and should not discourage providing mouse...
- 20:29:46 [Jan]
- ...input or other input methods in addition to keyboard operation.
- 20:33:08 [Jan]
- JR: Read in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JulSep/0098.html
- 20:33:25 [Jan]
- JR: Oops needs referenc to WCAG 2.0 in (b)
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- JR: As in: *Warning:* authors are warned that proceeding may cause the loss of information required to meet WCAG 2.0 success criteria (e.g., when saving a structured graphic to a raster image format)
- 20:35:16 [jeanne]
- I like it with the addition of WCAG reference in (b)
- 20:40:31 [Jan]
- Resolution: *B.1.2.1 Transformations Preserve Accessibility Information (Minimum):* If the authoring tool provides web content transformations then one of the following are true:
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- (a) *Preserve*: accessibility information required to meet WCAG 2.0 success criteria is preserved in the output;
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- (b) *Warning:* authors are warned that proceeding may cause the loss of information required to meet WCAG 2.0 (e.g., when saving a structured graphic to a raster image format),
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- The WCAG 2.0 Level A success criteria are met (Level A); or
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- The WCAG 2.0 Level A and Level AA success criteria are met (Level AA); or
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- The WCAG 2.0 Level A, Level AA, and Level AAA success criteria are met (Level AAA).
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- Note: Transformations includes markup "clean-up".
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- B.1.2.2 Transformations Preserve Accessibility Information (Enhanced): If the authoring tool provides web content transformations then any accessibility information required to meet WCAG 2.0 is preserved as accessibility information in the output, if allowed by the web content technology of the output. (Level AAA)
- 20:41:02 [Jan]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010JulSep/0092.html
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- No meeting for next two weeks...
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- So lots of on-list nagging.
- 20:42:46 [Jan]
- Let's all have our actions done by the next call (Oct 18)
- 20:43:22 [Jan]
- JT: In the interim, people will work on their actions..due by some date and then Jeanne will put them in a survey.
- 20:43:32 [Jan]
- JS: OK
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- JR: Due date?
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- JT: so the deadline is Oct 12
- 20:45:06 [Zakim]
- -Greg
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- -Tim_Boland
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- -Jan
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- -JuttaT
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- RRSAgent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/27-au-minutes.html Jan
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- RRSAgent, set logs public
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- Zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Jan, Jeanne, JuttaT, Greg_Pisocky, +1.703.678.aaaa, Tim_Boland, Greg
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see no action items