IRC log of forms on 2010-09-08

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14:08:03 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #forms
14:08:03 [RRSAgent]: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/09/08-forms-irc
14:08:05 [trackbot]: RRSAgent, make logs public
14:08:05 [Zakim]: Zakim has joined #forms
14:08:07 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be HTML_Forms
14:08:07 [Zakim]: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:08:08 [trackbot]: Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
14:08:08 [trackbot]: Date: 08 September 2010
14:08:16 [Steven]: zakim, this will be forms
14:08:18 [Zakim]: ok, Steven; I see IA_XForms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 52 minutes
14:41:07 [nick]: nick has left #forms
14:51:54 [nick]: nick has joined #forms
14:59:10 [wiecha]: wiecha has joined #forms
14:59:18 [Zakim]: IA_XForms()11:00AM has now started
14:59:25 [Zakim]: + +44.782.483.aaaa
14:59:40 [Zakim]: +[IBM]
14:59:44 [wiecha]: zakim, [IBM is me
14:59:44 [Zakim]: +wiecha; got it
15:01:28 [Steven]: zakim, dial steven-617
15:01:28 [Zakim]: ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:01:29 [Zakim]: +Steven
15:01:30 [Zakim]: +Leigh_Klotz
15:03:16 [John_Boyer]: John_Boyer has joined #forms
15:03:32 [klotz]: klotz has joined #forms
15:03:40 [Steven]: zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:40 [Zakim]: On the phone I see +44.782.483.aaaa, wiecha, Leigh_Klotz, Steven
15:03:54 [Steven]: zakim, aaaa is pfennell
15:03:54 [Zakim]: +pfennell; got it
15:04:29 [Zakim]: +John_Boyer
15:04:53 [klotz]: zakim, who is noisy?
15:05:04 [Zakim]: klotz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (64%)
15:05:17 [klotz]: zakim, who is noisy?
15:05:28 [Zakim]: klotz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (59%)
15:05:49 [nick]: zakim, code?
15:05:49 [Zakim]: the conference code is 93676 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), nick
15:06:10 [klotz]: zakim, who is noisy?
15:06:20 [Steven]: zakim, who is noisy?
15:06:21 [Zakim]: klotz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: pfennell (13%), John_Boyer (33%)
15:06:27 [Zakim]: + +1.617.588.aabb
15:06:35 [Zakim]: Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (41%)
15:06:35 [Zakim]: +??P8
15:06:54 [klotz]: zakim, mute John_Boyer
15:06:54 [Zakim]: John_Boyer should now be muted
15:06:56 [John_Boyer]: zakim, am I really the noisy one?
15:06:56 [Zakim]: I don't understand your question, John_Boyer.
15:07:14 [klotz]: zakim, unmute John_Boyer
15:07:14 [Zakim]: John_Boyer should no longer be muted
15:07:18 [nick]: zakim, I am P8
15:07:19 [Zakim]: sorry, nick, I do not see a party named 'P8'
15:07:30 [nick]: zakim, who is here?
15:07:30 [Zakim]: On the phone I see pfennell, wiecha, Leigh_Klotz, Steven, John_Boyer, +1.617.588.aabb, ??P8
15:07:30 [John_Boyer]: zakim, who is noisy?
15:07:32 [Zakim]: On IRC I see klotz, John_Boyer, wiecha, nick, Zakim, RRSAgent, pfennell, Steven, trackbot
15:07:42 [Zakim]: John_Boyer, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: pfennell (4%), ??P8 (5%), John_Boyer (19%)
15:07:43 [klotz]: I think it's you John as it went away when I muted you.
15:08:02 [Zakim]: -John_Boyer
15:08:05 [nick]: zakim, I'm ??P8
15:08:05 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'I'm ??P8', nick
15:08:08 [Steven]: zakim, aabb is probably Alain
15:08:08 [Zakim]: +Alain?; got it
15:08:27 [nick]: zakim, I'm P8
15:08:27 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'I'm P8', nick
15:08:37 [alain]: alain has joined #forms
15:08:43 [nick]: zakim, P8 is nick
15:08:43 [Zakim]: sorry, nick, I do not recognize a party named 'P8'
15:08:54 [nick]: zakim, who is here?
15:08:54 [Zakim]: On the phone I see pfennell, wiecha, Leigh_Klotz, Steven, Alain?, ??P8
15:08:55 [Zakim]: On IRC I see alain, klotz, John_Boyer, wiecha, nick, Zakim, RRSAgent, pfennell, Steven, trackbot
15:09:01 [Steven]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Sep/0008
15:09:03 [John_Boyer]: he, use only one ?, Nick
15:09:11 [Zakim]: +John_Boyer
15:09:20 [nick]: zakim, I'm ?P8
15:09:20 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'I'm ?P8', nick
15:09:34 [nick]: zakim, I am ?P8
15:09:34 [Zakim]: sorry, nick, I do not see a party named '?P8'
15:09:46 [nick]: zakim, I am ??P8
15:09:46 [Zakim]: +nick; got it
15:09:56 [nick]: zakim, thank you
15:09:56 [Zakim]: you are very welcome, nick
15:10:45 [nick]: zakim, mute me
15:10:45 [Zakim]: nick should now be muted
15:15:38 [klotz]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_1.1_First_Edition_Errata
15:15:50 [Steven]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_1.1_in_Wiki
15:17:59 [nick]: zakim, unmute me
15:17:59 [Zakim]: nick should no longer be muted
15:22:03 [unl]: unl has joined #forms
15:22:33 [unl]: zakim, code?
15:22:33 [Zakim]: the conference code is 93676 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), unl
15:24:11 [Zakim]: + +49.307.544.aacc
15:24:21 [unl]: zakim, aacc is me
15:24:21 [Zakim]: +unl; got it
15:25:41 [nick]: <blockquote> dateTime time date gYearMonth gYear gMonthDay gDay gMonth string boolean base64Binary hexBinary float decimal double anyURI QName </blockquote>
15:27:32 [unl]: zakim, mute me
15:27:32 [Zakim]: unl should now be muted
15:31:37 [klotz]: nick, the action item was to produce this zip and it's not done. do you need one to mark done?
15:31:48 [klotz]: s/not/now/
15:33:51 [klotz]: nick, it was during a non-quorum meeting and I believe we treated ita s an informal request .
15:40:47 [klotz]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Mar/0001.html
15:42:13 [klotz]: ACTION: Philip Fennell to read Owen Newnan's report on our XSD and propose changes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Mar/0001.html
15:42:13 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-629 - Fennell to read Owen Newnan's report on our XSD and propose changes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2010Mar/0001.html [on Philip Fennell - due 2010-09-15].
15:44:48 [klotz]: ACTION: Philip Fennell to integrate RelaxNG schema into NVDL validation.
15:44:48 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-630 - Fennell to integrate RelaxNG schema into NVDL validation. [on Philip Fennell - due 2010-09-15].
15:45:00 [Steven]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0007.html
15:47:37 [unl]: http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#evt-out-of-range
15:47:42 [nick]: zakim, mute me
15:47:42 [Zakim]: nick should now be muted
15:49:28 [Steven]: "this form control must indicate an out-of-range condition."
15:50:22 [Steven]: :out-of-range & :in-range TBD Selects any core form control bound to a node that contains a value the form control is not or is capable of rendering, (respectively).
15:51:17 [Steven]: ""Relevant form controls must indicate when the bound instance data contains a value or content that the form control is not capable of rendering. "
15:53:08 [John_Boyer]: http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#ui-selectOne
15:53:33 [Steven]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_1.1_in_Wiki#8.1.11_The_select1_Element
15:55:34 [Steven]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Jun/0005.html
15:55:45 [Steven]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Jun/0006.html
15:55:49 [klotz]: ACTION: John Boyer to answer http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0007.html about out-of-range and invalid.
15:55:49 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-631 - Boyer to answer http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Sep/0007.html about out-of-range and invalid. [on John Boyer - due 2010-09-15].
15:57:17 [Steven]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_1.1_in_Wiki#4.5.1_The_xforms-binding-exception_Event
15:59:14 [ebruchez]: ebruchez has joined #forms
15:59:42 [klotz]: ebruchez discussing your message http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2010Jun/0006.html
16:00:22 [ebruchez]: sorry a bit late for me to participate today on this!
16:00:34 [Zakim]: -wiecha
16:00:36 [Zakim]: -John_Boyer
16:00:38 [Zakim]: -Alain?
16:00:40 [Zakim]: -Steven
16:00:42 [Zakim]: -Leigh_Klotz
16:00:44 [Zakim]: -unl
16:00:46 [Zakim]: -nick
16:00:51 [klotz]: ebruchez we would like to discuss the XBL news with you present next week.
16:00:52 [Zakim]: -pfennell
16:00:56 [Zakim]: IA_XForms()11:00AM has ended
16:01:01 [klotz]: zakim, make minutes
16:01:02 [Zakim]: Attendees were +44.782.483.aaaa, [IBM], wiecha, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, pfennell, John_Boyer, +1.617.588.aabb, Alain?, nick, +49.307.544.aacc, unl
16:01:12 [klotz]: rrsagent, make minutes
16:01:12 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/08-forms-minutes.html klotz
16:01:17 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'make minutes', klotz
16:02:49 [ebruchez]: sounds good ttu next week
16:03:05 [nick]: nick has left #forms