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<trackbot> Date: 27 July 2010
<amalhotr> new nick, Ashok
<amalhotr> newnick, Ashok
<amalhotr> scribe: amalhotr
<Bob_> scribenick: amslhotr
<dug> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9703
<amalhotr> Ram: Asks about 9703
<Ram> Antoine Mensch
<amalhotr> ... Antoine Mensch was asking about 9703
<amalhotr> ... perhaps we did not communicate our response to him
<amalhotr> c/amslhotr/amalhotr/
<amalhotr> Bob: Decided on May f2f
<amalhotr> ... ACTION: Gil to respond ...
<amalhotr> Gil: I will respond to him
<dug> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/05/2010-05-12.html#item13
<amalhotr> Bob: Reasoning ... we believe complexity will blow up
<amalhotr> Bob: All others agreed to our disposition or have not responded
<amalhotr> No other changes to agenda
<Bob_> last minutes at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/06/2010-06-29.html
<amalhotr> at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/06/2010-06-29.html
<amalhotr> Approved w/o objection
<amalhotr> MEX - Katy Eventing - Gil & Wu Frag - Doug
<amalhotr> Bob: We are going on hiatus for a while please think about this
<amalhotr> Face to Face meeting in Lyon 1st week of November 1-6
<amalhotr> Bob: During the TPAC
<amalhotr> ... many there in any case
<dug> +q
<amalhotr> ... shd we retain our slot on TPAC program
<amalhotr> Ram: Seems like a good idea ... we can check on features at risk
<amalhotr> Doug: Use it as interop event?
<amalhotr> Ram: No, just discuss features which various vendors are going to implemnt
<amalhotr> Doug: When are you thinking abt interop event
<amalhotr> ... I may not be able to go to France
<amalhotr> ... I suggest we postpone f2f until we can do interop testing
<amalhotr> ... do we need to coordinate with any other groups
<amalhotr> Bob: I don't think we need to coordinate with any other groups
<amalhotr> Bob: Don't have implementation schedules yet
<amalhotr> TomRutt: Can we have a short mtg where others can attend by phone
<amalhotr> Ram: I may be there
<amalhotr> Bob: Martin and Katy may be able to attend
<amalhotr> TomRutt: How abt a half-day/morning meeting?
<amalhotr> Bob: We may not have any serious issues ... just tests
<amalhotr> Bob: I'm inclined to tell the W3C to release the rooms at TPAC
<amalhotr> ... we could have a f2f/testing event later
<amalhotr> ... I will release the rooms
<amalhotr> postponed
<dug> Latest Enum: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/edcopies/wsenum.html
<amalhotr> Bob: Let us accept issues we have resolved and close them
<amalhotr> ... can we close all resolved issues?
<amalhotr> No objection
<amalhotr> Bob: We can go on hiatus and publish LCWD
<amalhotr> Bob: Any objection to publishing a seconf last call?
<amalhotr> No objection
<amalhotr> Bob: I suggest we have last call till Sept 10
<amalhotr> Doug: We could work on scenario docs ... could help flush out bugs
<amalhotr> Ram: many people in Europe are on vacation ... they want last call till late Sept
<amalhotr> TomRutt: How about meetings every 2 weeks?
<amalhotr> Doug: How abt next mtg Aug 17 and then meet weekly to discuss scenario docs.
<amalhotr> Bob: Lets have next mtg Aug 17
<amalhotr> Bob: How about Last call till Sept 17?
<amalhotr> Bob: After Aug 17 we can start filling in scenario docs
<amalhotr> ... would be good to have some to look at
<amalhotr> Doug: IBM will do some MEX scenarios
<amalhotr> Gil: We can do eventing
<amalhotr> Doug: Ram could you do Enum?
<amalhotr> Ram: Yes, but no timeline yet
<amalhotr> Doug: Involve WSTF in our testing?
<amalhotr> ... they can do regression test and create matrix
<amalhotr> TomRutt: How do we use WSTF?
<amalhotr> Doug: They would help the process not be a participant
<amalhotr> Ram: Not clear if MSFT will join WSTF
<amalhotr> Gil: WSTF may result in a net savings of effort
<amalhotr> ... they will provide some infrastructure
<amalhotr> Bob: Has MSFT rejected membership in WSFT?
<amalhotr> Ram: Many different angles
<dug> non-wstf members can still participate
<amalhotr> ... whether MSFT joins WSTF goes beyond this WG.
<amalhotr> Doug: An WSTF member can add yr endpoint but you willnot be able to see the results ... the private WSTF stuff
<amalhotr> Ram: Discusses WSTF pros and cons
<amalhotr> Bob: Is there a WSTF methodology that we could replicate on W3C?
<amalhotr> Doug: There is no rocket science
<amalhotr> Bob: This could be useful for HTML testing ...
<amalhotr> Bob: Ram, you could mention it to Paul ... may solve some of his problems
<dug> wsdd
<dug> wsdd tc in oasis
<amalhotr> Ram: WSDD WG wants to know/share testing plans ... coverage
<amalhotr> Bob: Our plans are all public
<amalhotr> Bob: can we shoot for Sept 13, IBM, Oracle ...
<amalhotr> Bob: Agenda for Sept 13 will be implementation plans
<dug> http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-resource-transfer/
<amalhotr> Ram: Is it under the 'obsolete' category?
<amalhotr> Bob: Webmaster said he would take care of it
<amalhotr> Bob: AOB?
<amalhotr> Bob: Adjourned
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