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14:04:19 <Andi> zakim, this will be aapi
14:04:19 <Zakim> ok, Andi, I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM already started
14:04:28 <Andi> rrsagent, make logs public
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14:04:44 <Andi> Scribe: Andi
14:07:39 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
14:08:21 <davidb> sorry yes.
14:08:22 <davidb> coming
14:10:45 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
14:11:00 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla has David_Bolter
14:11:00 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
14:14:32 <Andi> default value of state/property
14:14:45 <Andi> DB: confused about what default value means
14:16:28 <Andi> add wording similar to wording in 5.3 Author Errors "If a required aria property for a given role is missing, user agents SHOULD process as if the following values were provided:"
14:17:14 <davidb> DB: great
14:19:04 <Andi> bug 8947: add overrides to first column of state/property mapping table
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14:26:04 <Andi> bug 8907: this belongs in the Authoring Practices Guide, not UAIG. open tracker action
14:32:30 <Andi> issue 59: related to bug CS is going to work on this week
14:33:37 <cyns> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/88
14:33:56 <Andi> issue 86 & 87: Andi to close when she closes related bug
14:36:25 <Andi> editorial: "accessible tree" should be "accessibility tree"
14:36:40 <Andi> issue 379: close
14:38:43 <Andi> issue 393: add a note to HTML specific sections "This section is specific to HTML and may not be relevant to other technologies."
14:43:59 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
14:44:34 <Andi> issue 383: for MSAA and UIA, take the text from the referenced element in aria-labelledby and make it the name of the referencing element
14:46:02 <Andi> issue 383: what to do about IA2 and ATK. If the referenced element has role="presentation", it won't be an accessible object (in the accessibility tree)
14:47:37 <Andi> CS: sounds like an author error, UA should probably ignore the referenced element if it has role="presentation"
14:49:05 <Andi> DB: agree this is an author error, behavior is unknown
14:51:19 <Andi> should role="presentation" win or "labelledby" win?
14:54:11 <Andi> bug - corresponding to issue 383 - assign to David
14:57:49 <Andi> issue 391
14:58:32 <Andi> CS: agree with the issue but it's a huge work item
14:58:43 <Andi> CS: is this really an aria thing? seems like it's an HTML thing
14:59:30 <Andi> DB: starting writing a document on caret browsing in contenteditable areas
15:00:07 <Andi> DB: keyboard operation inside contenteditable section of web page is not well spec'ed
15:00:32 <Andi> DB: should be spec'ed outside ARIA
15:00:42 <Andi> CS: refer to HTML task force or UAAG
15:00:58 <Andi> DB: applies to any editable region, not just ARIA
15:01:26 <Andi> issue 391: re-assign to HTML task force
15:02:17 <Andi> Next week's agenda: pick up with 395 and continue through actions
15:02:36 <Andi> action: refer issue 391 to HTML task force or UAAG
15:03:01 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
15:03:02 <Zakim> -[Mozilla]
15:03:02 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
15:03:03 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has ended
15:03:04 <Andi> zakim, bye
15:03:07 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly, David_Bolter
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15:03:09 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:03:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/04-aapi-minutes.html Andi
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18:17:09 <MichaelC> chair: Cynthia
18:17:12 <MichaelC> meeting: AAPI
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18:17:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/05/04-aapi-minutes.html MichaelC
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19:10:45 <cyns> what conf # are we using?
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