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17:00:33 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
17:00:33 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 30 minutes
17:00:44 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
17:00:49 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
17:00:53 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
17:00:57 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
17:01:05 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
17:01:13 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:01:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:06:36 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Mar/0010.html
17:06:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
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17:30:07 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
17:30:07 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
17:30:09 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has now started
17:30:10 <Zakim> +Richard
17:30:47 <r12a> felix, the code is I18N - have you forgotten already ?  ;-)
17:30:59 <Zakim> +aphillip
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17:32:44 <aphillip> Regrets: Aharon
17:33:01 <Zakim> +David
17:33:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:34:32 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes and Agenda review
17:34:49 <aphillip> richard: agenda+ ICU
17:35:10 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
17:35:22 <aphillip> Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue 
17:35:30 <aphillip> all: review HTML5 (rolling action item to be reviewed weekly) 
17:35:38 <aphillip> Dan: update draft to support option C for specifying preferences in ws-i18n 
17:35:46 <aphillip> richard: publish FPWD of Bidi WG-Note and complete all transreq requirements pertaining thereto 
17:36:00 <aphillip> DONE as of tomorrow
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17:36:21 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
17:36:39 <aphillip> welcome back Norbert
17:37:58 <aphillip> richard: css wg is currently discussing i18n-related stuff
17:38:01 <aphillip> ... one is fonts
17:38:09 <aphillip> ... one is start/end for floats for bidi
17:38:17 <aphillip> ... (rather than left/right)
17:38:26 <aphillip> ... text transform (capitalization)
17:38:38 <aphillip> ... their next meeting starts in about 20 minutes
17:38:42 <aphillip> ... with links to stuff
17:39:03 <aphillip> ... look at the css-wg list
17:39:13 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-css-wg/2010JanMar/0083.html (member only)
17:41:06 <aphillip> richard: seems that html5 japanese interest group is interested in doing ruby stuff
17:41:17 <aphillip> ... don't reference any of our documents about ruby
17:41:43 <aphillip> Topic: HTML Issue-88
17:41:56 <aphillip> richard: html chairs sent request for alternative proposals
17:42:03 <aphillip> ... haven't seen any response
17:42:15 <aphillip> ... not response from Hixie on our official message of last week
17:42:38 <aphillip> ... maybe leave one more week before we ping for progress?
17:42:58 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: if no news by next tuesday, ping HTML5 chairs for progress on Issue-88 call for alternatives
17:43:21 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi WG Note progress
17:43:44 <aphillip> richard: situation is that have submitted transreq
17:43:49 <aphillip> ... it's accepted
17:43:54 <aphillip> ... will be publiched tomorrow
17:43:58 <aphillip> s/publiched/published
17:44:04 <aphillip> richard: then we do two things
17:44:16 <aphillip> ... 1. bidi experts send feedback on public-i18n-bidi
17:44:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:44:33 <aphillip> ... also redirect fantasai and najib 
17:44:56 <aphillip> ... 2. send note to html5 saying "please don't review yet"
17:45:30 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: send note to html5 informing them of the document but asking not to review just yet
17:45:40 <r12a> zakim, who's making noise?
17:45:50 <Zakim> r12a, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: aphillip (4%), Norbert (68%), andrewc (4%)
17:47:30 <aphillip> richard: paulc sent us note, asking when can get to is so mstf can get to it
17:47:49 <aphillip> s/get to is/finish the bidi note/
17:48:39 <aphillip> the UBA was for plain text
17:49:04 <aphillip> andrewc: ... implementation in markup environment is flawed
17:49:45 <aphillip> ... examples show that markup not behaving as desired/preceived to
17:50:04 <Zakim> -Norbert
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17:52:32 <aphillip> richard: dir on span doesn't solve the problem on the example (#2??)
17:53:03 <aphillip> ... proposes markup to fill gaps
17:53:42 <aphillip> ... idea is to say "is functioniong properly, but something else is needed here"
17:54:25 <aphillip> norbert: some comments from roozbeh
17:54:33 <aphillip> public-i18n-bidi@w3.org
17:54:44 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-bidi/
17:55:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:55:46 <aphillip> Topic: ITS & Widgets P&C
17:57:13 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0044.html
17:57:25 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0043.html
18:00:18 <aphillip> addison: (summary)
18:00:35 <aphillip> richard: did we ask them to add 'dir' on top-level?
18:01:35 <aphillip> addison: marco suggested to put on every element and I suggested that it go on top element with inheritance
18:02:02 <aphillip> richard: needs help on examples
18:02:09 <aphillip> ... I will help with that
18:02:16 <aphillip> ... they also define empty value for dir
18:04:12 <aphillip> ... do bdi in next version?
18:08:02 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-bidi/
18:08:12 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0045.html
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18:10:29 <aphillip> <name dir="ltr">foo</name>
18:10:54 <aphillip> &#x202D;foo&#x202C;
18:15:56 <aphillip> <p>$1</p>
18:20:21 <aphillip> richard help with examples, addison compose a response
18:21:46 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
18:21:56 <aphillip> Topic: ICU
18:22:35 <aphillip> we have a thing called unicore and someone wants to localize to Telugu
18:22:42 <aphillip> ... but no Telegu locale
18:23:00 <aphillip> ... in Java
18:23:13 <aphillip> Norbert: locale data or rendering
18:23:18 <r12a> http://qa-dev.w3.org/unicorn/translations
18:23:28 <aphillip> s/unicore/unicorn/
18:25:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
18:25:56 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
18:26:23 <Zakim> -aphillip
18:26:24 <Zakim> -Norbert
18:26:30 <Zakim> -Felix
18:26:32 <Zakim> -Richard
18:26:32 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
18:26:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
18:26:36 <Zakim> -andrewc
18:26:44 <Zakim> -David
18:26:45 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended
18:26:47 <Zakim> Attendees were Richard, aphillip, +1.415.283.aaaa, Norbert, David, [IPcaller], andrewc, Felix, +1.408.349.aabb
18:55:13 <r12a> rrsagent, bye
18:55:13 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-actions.rdf :
18:55:13 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: if no news by next tuesday, ping HTML5 chairs for progress on Issue-88 call for alternatives [1]
18:55:13 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-irc#T17-42-58
18:55:13 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: send note to html5 informing them of the document but asking not to review just yet [2]
18:55:13 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-core-irc#T17-45-30