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12:23:39 <tlr> zakim, this will be pling
12:23:39 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, tlr
12:23:42 <tlr> zakim, this will be PLING
12:23:42 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, tlr
12:24:10 <tlr> zakim, space for 15 at 08:00?
12:24:11 <Zakim> ok, tlr; conference Team_(pling)13:00Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) at 08:00 for 60 minutes until 1400Z
12:29:18 <tlr> tlr has changed the topic to: PLING call at 8am ET | 1pm UTC | code CONF1 (26631)
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12:39:49 <tlr> hi renato
12:39:57 <tlr> note the different zakim code...
12:40:49 <renato> hi thomas
12:41:13 <tlr> if you could edit the agenda page and correct that information, that would be great
12:41:21 <renato> yes i can....
12:41:24 <tlr> thx
12:41:36 <renato> what is the new codes (sorry not on email...)
12:41:40 <tlr> 26631
12:41:45 <tlr> (CONF1)
12:42:23 <tlr> I suppose we're now on the second Tuesday of each month...
12:42:30 <tlr> The conference is scheduled for the first Tuesday.
12:43:12 <renato> ok....can we update the telconf schedule
12:43:26 <tlr> yes, but not in time for this call :)
12:43:31 <tlr> (i.e. it's indeed second Tuesday?)
12:44:31 <renato> yes - i think so!
12:44:45 <renato> did you also email the new code to the pling list?
12:45:29 <tlr> yes
12:46:29 <renato> ok...wiki updated
12:47:17 <tlr> ok, adminreq sent
12:52:23 <tlr> Regrets: Rigo, Marco
12:52:26 <tlr> Chair: Renato
12:52:29 <tlr> Meeting: PLING monthly
12:52:33 <tlr> rrsagent, make record public
12:53:39 <tlr> Regrets-
12:53:42 <tlr> Regrets- rigo
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13:00:42 <Zakim> Team_(pling)13:00Z has now started
13:00:49 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
13:00:49 <tlr> zakim, call thomas-781
13:00:50 <Zakim> ok, tlr; the call is being made
13:00:50 <Zakim> +Thomas
13:01:01 <tlr> zakim, I am thomas
13:01:01 <Zakim> ok, tlr, I now associate you with Thomas
13:01:02 <tlr> zakim, mute me
13:01:02 <Zakim> Thomas should now be muted
13:01:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:02:03 <tlr> zakim, [IPcaller] is renato
13:02:03 <Zakim> +renato; got it
13:02:29 <tlr> ack thomas
13:02:51 <Zakim> +rigo
13:03:25 <rigo> zakim, unmute me
13:03:25 <Zakim> rigo was not muted, rigo
13:04:07 <rigo> zakim, who is making noise?
13:04:19 <Zakim> rigo, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ashok_Malhotra (76%), renato (39%)
13:05:15 <renato> member:zakim, who is making noise?
13:06:09 <renato> hmmmm....
13:06:21 <renato> can anyone hear me?
13:07:08 <renato> let me redial in (my mute is off)
13:07:15 <rigo> ok
13:07:27 <renato> please start..back in 60 seconds
13:07:42 <rigo> zakim, who is here?
13:07:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ashok_Malhotra, Thomas, renato, rigo
13:07:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see Ashok, rigo, renato, RRSAgent, Zakim, tlr
13:09:34 <Zakim> -renato
13:10:04 <renato> this is crazy....no getting busy tone on my phone card!
13:11:17 <renato> "all circuits are busy now" ....!
13:11:27 <tlr> zakim, code?
13:11:27 <Zakim> the conference code is 26631 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), tlr
13:11:48 <tlr> renato, are you on skype?
13:12:00 <renato> I can be...
13:12:06 <tlr> let's try something
13:12:38 <tlr> mh, no
13:12:47 <tlr> that won't work
13:12:48 <tlr> ack thomas
13:13:31 <renato> i will just dial direct...
13:13:43 <Zakim> +??P6
13:13:48 <tlr> zakim, ??P6 is renato
13:13:48 <Zakim> +renato; got it
13:16:39 <renato> W3C Workshop on Access Control Application Scenarios - workshop report
13:16:53 <rigo> http://www.w3.org/2009/policy-ws/report.html
13:31:02 <renato> PLING Charter extended to Feb 2011
13:31:38 <rigo> RI: Media Annotation feedback, wiki page
13:31:50 <renato> http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/MAWGFeedback
13:34:02 <renato> keep on agenda
13:35:46 <rigo> http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/PLINGNOTEBestPracticesForPrivacyAwareness
13:36:29 <renato> The concept a good idea?
13:37:10 <renato> Implementation experience from PrimeLife....
13:38:17 <tlr> q+
13:38:28 <rigo> ack tlr
13:38:33 <rigo> ack Thomas
13:38:53 <rigo> tlr: mozilla personae are only themes
13:43:59 <renato> Liaisons
13:44:05 <renato> PrimeLife
13:44:35 <renato> ...lead role in coordinating activities
13:45:01 <renato> ...in the pipe line.....privacy language....
13:45:46 <renato> ODRL
13:46:02 <rigo> XML serialization of ODRL 2.0
13:46:03 <renato> ....XML encoding released soon
13:46:30 <renato> SWXG
13:46:35 <rigo> Social Web XG: Announcement for one social web from Vodafone
13:46:38 <renato> http://onesocialweb.org
13:46:51 <rigo> using XMPP for everything
13:47:17 <rigo> define their own access control language
13:47:22 <renato> http://onesocialweb.org/spec/1.0/xep-osw-activities.html#sect-id2774754
13:47:50 <rigo> very small at the moment, subject, action, role, resource
13:48:06 <rigo> 1.st version, think about reusing existing language
13:48:32 <rigo> have looked at XACML: comment: too complex
13:48:39 <rigo> ODRL may be easier
13:49:12 <rigo> interesting how well it is received, mainly with XMPP, rock solid protocol.
13:52:06 <renato> Add XACML to list
13:52:12 <renato> ...
13:52:14 <renato> Events
13:53:29 <tlr> q+ to ask whether we've heard any interesting fall-out from other privacy events
13:53:36 <rigo> PrivacyOS Privacy BarCamp Oxford 12-13 April 2010
13:53:48 <rigo> ack Thomas
13:53:48 <Zakim> Thomas, you wanted to ask whether we've heard any interesting fall-out from other privacy events
13:54:15 <tlr> privacyos invite: https://www.privacyos.eu/archives/98-Invitation-4th-PrivacyOS-Conference-Oxford.html
13:58:17 <renato> Dagstuhal Seminar: Distributed Usage Control (invite only!) 6-9 April
13:58:24 <renato> http://www.dagstuhl.de/en/program/calendar/semhp/?semnr=10141
14:03:39 <Zakim> -Thomas
14:03:42 <renato> Schedule
14:03:52 <renato> 2nd Tues of the month
14:04:14 <Zakim> -rigo
14:04:15 <Zakim> -renato
14:04:16 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
14:04:17 <Zakim> Team_(pling)13:00Z has ended
14:04:19 <Zakim> Attendees were Ashok_Malhotra, Thomas, renato, rigo
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