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16:01:53 RRSAgent, make logs world
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16:01:55 Zakim, this will be 2119
16:01:55 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now
16:01:56 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:01:56 Date: 21 January 2010
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16:03:39 regrets: Laura_Carlson,Kelly_Ford,Bruce_Lawson,Gez_Lemon,Aurélien_Levy,Sylvia_Phieffer
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16:04:26 present: Michael_Cooper, Gregory_Rosmaita, John_Foliot, Steven_Faulkner, Wendy_Chisholm, Jon_Gunderson, Ben_Caldwell, Erik_Carlson, Denis_Boudreau, Paul_Cotton
16:04:59 present+ Marco_Ranon
16:05:44 Zakim, call Mike
16:05:44 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:05:52 that me
16:06:10 present+ Martin_Kliehm
16:06:18 present+ Mike_Smith
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16:07:39 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
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16:07:46 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0231.html
16:07:53 zakim, code?
16:07:53 the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), janina
16:08:49 present+ Charles_McCathieNevile
16:08:57 Zakim, who's making noise?
16:08:57 sorry, MikeSmith, I don't know what conference this is
16:09:26 present+ Janina_Sajka
16:10:06 zakim, ??P6 is Joshue
16:10:06 +Joshue; got it
16:10:12 zakim, mute Chaals
16:10:12 Chaals should now be muted
16:11:08 agenda+ Actions Review <- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
16:11:13 zakim, mute me
16:11:13 Joshue should now be muted
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16:11:19 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/
16:11:33 Topic: Review open action items
16:11:36 action-6?
16:11:36 ACTION-6 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to address fragments versus entire pages as alternatives with HTML WG members -- due 2010-01-21 -- OPEN
16:11:36 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/6
16:11:42 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/overdue
16:12:05 action-6 due 01-28
16:12:05 ACTION-6 address fragments versus entire pages as alternatives with HTML WG members due date now 01-28
16:12:23 action-7?
16:12:23 ACTION-7 -- Gregory Rosmaita to propose braille media type (as opposed to simply tactile) or sub-type after consulting with Braille-in-DAISY and others -- due 2010-01-15 -- OPEN
16:12:23 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/7
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16:13:06 +??P8
16:13:58 zakim, ??P8 is probably Geoff_Freed
16:13:58 +Geoff_Freed?; got it
16:14:06 present+ Geoff_Freed
16:14:43 yes, it is.
16:14:48 scribe: oedipus
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16:14:54 + +1.617.300.aaff - is perhaps WGBH?
16:14:55 action-7: this action has been completed and next steps include taking a proposal to CSS WG
16:14:55 ACTION-7 propose braille media type (as opposed to simply tactile) or sub-type after consulting with Braille-in-DAISY and others notes added
16:15:02 close action-7
16:15:03 ACTION-7 propose braille media type (as opposed to simply tactile) or sub-type after consulting with Braille-in-DAISY and others closed
16:15:06 +Cynthia_Shelly
16:15:15 i called in ... might be pp8
16:15:16 yes, 300 is gfreed at wgbh.
16:15:39 ACTION: GJR - work with Canvas sub-group on tactile and braille media types/groups proposal for CSS WG
16:15:39 Created ACTION-14 - - work with Canvas sub-group on tactile and braille media types/groups proposal for CSS WG [on Gregory Rosmaita - due 2010-01-28].
16:15:56 Geoff_Freed is Markku_Hakkinen
16:16:02 zaki, Geoff_Freed is Markku_Hakkinen
16:16:08 zakim, Geoff_Freed is Markku_Hakkinen
16:16:08 +Markku_Hakkinen; got it
16:16:13 action-14 due 2010-02-14
16:16:13 ACTION-14 - work with Canvas sub-group on tactile and braille media types/groups proposal for CSS WG due date now 2010-02-14
16:16:18 zakim, WGBH is Geoff_Freed
16:16:18 +Geoff_Freed; got it
16:16:24 present+ Markku_Hakkinen
16:16:28 MS: closed ACTION-7, created ACTION-14 on GJR
16:16:45 MS: ACTION-9 - Coooper and i discussed; tracker may not have been updated
16:16:45 action-9?
16:16:45 ACTION-9 -- Michael Cooper to make a proposal for which bugs we should take on, for review at next meeting -- due 2010-01-21 -- OPEN
16:16:45 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/9
16:17:35 MC: sent email linked to action before call; identify 10 categories to focus on; other matters need attention, but TF probably not best place for them
16:17:39 MS: ok
16:17:53 action-9: MichaelC sent e-mail summary on 01-21
16:17:54 ACTION-9 Make a proposal for which bugs we should take on, for review at next meeting notes added
16:17:58 +[Microsoft.a]
16:17:59 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0245.html
16:18:14 MS: close Action-9
16:18:37 close action-9
16:18:37 ACTION-9 Make a proposal for which bugs we should take on, for review at next meeting closed
16:18:45 MS: need to keep that summary list for later reference
16:18:54 MS: Action 10 on GJR
16:18:55 action-10?
16:18:55 ACTION-10 -- Gregory Rosmaita to work with Wendy on user-side of what AT needs in order to communicate meaningful info to AT user -- due 2010-01-21 -- OPEN
16:18:55 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/10
16:19:08 -??P25
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16:19:56 GJR: tied to wendy action -- talked to her, but couldn't make connection
16:20:05 MS: title on Action 11 not clear
16:20:09 zakim, who is here?
16:20:09 On the phone I see +1.650.862.aaaa, +0207388aabb, ??P22, +1.514.312.aacc, +1.408.307.aadd, ??P28, Cooper, Gregory_Rosmaita, ??P35, [Microsoft], kliehm, Mike, Chaals (muted), Joshue
16:20:12 ... (muted), Janina_Sajka, Markku_Hakkinen, Geoff_Freed, Cynthia_Shelly, [Microsoft.a]
16:20:15 On IRC I see fo, Laura, gfreed, mhakkinen, janina, Joshue, paulc, kliehm, Zakim, RRSAgent, wendy, Stevef, eric_carlson, JF, Marco_Ranon, Ben, jongunderson, MichaelC, dboudreau,
16:20:16 wendy?
16:20:17 ... davidb, MikeSmith, oedipus, trackbot
16:21:42 JS need timeline; extend action 11 for 1 week -- reassigned to wendy per discussion at 2010-01-21 HTML A11y TF
16:22:08 MS: action 11 open - please communicate by email or at next call
16:22:10 action-11 due 2010-01-11
16:22:10 ACTION-11 - report on timeline for summary verbiage about what AT needs to communicate and report back to HTML5 A11y TF due date now 2010-01-11
16:22:21 close action-10
16:22:21 ACTION-10 Work with Wendy on user-side of what AT needs in order to communicate meaningful info to AT user closed
16:22:24 MS: close action 10?
16:22:27 GJR: yes
16:22:54 MS: Action 12 - http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/12 - not due until next week
16:23:22 MS: Ensure there is a dependency between the HTML5 specification and the HTML 5 2D Context specification to ensure that the author has the ability to set the visible focus, for